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[edit] Wow this site has become pretty infultrated

There are definitly infultrators who serve other interests working on this website. The Israeli attacks on Lebanon exposed them. Anyways I thought you might want to look at this.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NAZ20061116&articleId=3882

I kept on posting it up on the talk page, but they kept on deleting it and accusing me of spamming. I thought we were allowed to post relvant and articles of interest on the talk pages?

69.196.164.190

Let me know if you need any help concerning Islam and Shi'a-related articles. Jaber 16:53, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Help request

Hi Zereshk! So someone has put a chunk of text about typesetting Nasta'liq (calligraphic style) in Nasta'liq, that is not polished or anything, with no references and all that. This degrades the quality of the article and I'm not sure whther it actually contributes much. What would you do to that? remove it? polish it? I can't polish it since I simply don't understand what it is talking about... Any help/idea will be much appreciated Mtdashti 15:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] User:Armandeh

I have reported Hessam (Armandeh) to an admin, User:Khoikhoi. You should state your problems to him as well about any problems you have had with him. He continues removing links and categories even from articles like Zahra Kazemi! I have discovered that Sharif University has not much citations and one image there has no source! Khodavand 02:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

You should stay here more because Hessam is going overboard with his false claims and attacks. See his new comment on Talk:WikIran. He also doesn't know anything about Wikipedia because he claims that Wikipedia has "editorial oversight" and "third-party fact checking"![citation needed] LOL It's sad that he is an admin on Farsi WP and became that way out of politics. I wish Wikimedia Foundation would investigate Farsi WP and force it to clean up their act! Khodavand 05:49, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Yes ask them to do it soon. Jimbo Wales is a lovely person. He and Wikimedia Foundation helped us several times on Iran related articles and Persian wikipedia. :-D At least about copyright Zereshk would remember. [1][2] Hessam 08:22, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
And you should also remember my answer too.--Zereshk 03:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can

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[edit] Practice Kendo?

Chetouri! I notice from your profile that you practice Kendo. How long have you been doing it? I've only been introduced to it a short time ago, but I've had a great time of it so far. Have you ever met the Kendoka in Iran? Are there many Kendoka in the USA of Iranian background? Well met! Siyavash 03:42, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Che khabar

Salam. Nisti aqa. Delam barat tang shode. --Sa.vakilian 04:39, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image from wikkicommons

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[edit] Artificial Islands in the Persian Gulf

Salam! Please see: Conflicts over the construction of Artificial Islands in the Persian Gulf. Sangak 15:28, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External Links to Wi‌‌‌‌kIR‌‌an

From WP:EL:

"Due to the rising profile of Wikipedia and the amount of extra traffic it can bring a site, there is a great temptation to use Wikipedia to advertise or promote links. This includes both commercial and non-commercial sites. You should avoid linking to a website that you own, maintain or represent, even if the guidelines otherwise imply that it should be linked."

Hessam 20:22, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

You should remember this discussion on persian wikipedia. You told you and your friends started that project:
این حقیر و برخی دوستان دیگر که جانمان از ویکیپدیای انگلیسی به لبمان رسیده خود دست به راه اندازی پروژه جدید و مشابه ای زده ایم
Hessam 21:51, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes I did say that, but only to attract crowds, and to show my dismay of some hostile users and admins. But all you have to do is check to find out: WikIran was founded before I entered. And btw, you have said many things too.--Zereshk 03:34, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] be del nagir

He is a typical nerd and all the nerd around the world are the same. khoda boshto panahat.--Pejman47 21:59, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

balaa-nesbat e nerd.--Zereshk 03:31, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rafed.net

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[edit] Salam

Salam o Dorood! Zereshk jan, midoonam ke az wikipedia farar kardee! vali baz ham mozahemet misham:

During last month I worked on this article. I would like to invite you to see the article, comment on it and help in improving it. I would like to invite you to see the parts on Iranian culture in particular. Long live Iran! Sina Kardar 19:19, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

lotfan har jaiee ke be nazaret monaseb nist ia be naf-e iran nist, avazesh kon. mamnoonam.Sina Kardar 19:19, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
in ha ro ham bebin: Religious intellectualism in Iran and Religious traditionalism in Iran.Sina Kardar 19:19, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Sina. I'll certainly read thru them. They look like extensive and well researched articles.--Zereshk 18:21, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :-) Sina Kardar 09:06, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two Articles in need of your attention

There are two entries at Wikipedia, which have falsely created -- they are Turco-Persian and Turko-Persian Tradition. Both entries are factitious. I have requested the entries to be deleted. My reasons are:

The term Turko-Persian Tradition (or Turco-Persian) does not exists academically and it is a factitious entry! Check the Encyclopaedia Iranica to confirm -- The correct name for that culture is the Persianate culture not the "Turko-Persian". Turkophones (mostly of mixed race and Persianized in culture) only spoke in Turkic dialects and were in the military. That is not enough participation in creating and forming the culture to deserve the name "Turko-Persian Tradition" – This is misinformation. All the elements in that area, which have to do with tradition and culture, were drawn from the Iranian culture (Persian, Kurdish, Azari, Baluchi, Tajik, Luri, Gilaki, Talishi, Mazandarani, etc.), and the Islamic faith, not much Turkic elements (like shamanism, yurts etc.) were incorporated in. That is what makes the name "Turko-Persian" an imaginary one and therefore the entry should be deleted.

Any contributions would greatly appreciate – please add your comments, whether you agree with the deletion, or otherwise to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Turco-Persian as well as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Turko-Persian Tradition. Bā Sepās Surena 02:48, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Jawami ul-Hikayat

Hello, I noticed you helped contribute to Jawami ul-Hikayat. I have found a source that the document exists but the article still needs some more references. Could you please help develope references for this article? Thank you. --CyclePat 23:25, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Hi

Zereshk jan! Iek negahi be in bendaz 2007 Arab world-US coalition against Iran. Sangak 20:39, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Khorasani Turkish language

I read in the talk page that you have heard above language. If so, do you think it is a dialect or it is totally the same as Azeri. In the former please move it to dialect page and in the later case please nominate it for deletion (again); yasashin iran --Pejman47 22:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anti-Iranianism

In case this edit summary was about me [3], I just want to clear up that my revert was back to your version. GabrielF removed the improvements. The Behnam 01:55, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


Hi Zereshk,

I am writing in regard to the Anti-Iranianism article. Let me start out by noting that I think the article should be kept (and have noted so in the AfD). However, the problem that I have with the article (and my reason for deleting over half of it) is that the article makes no distinction between hostility toward the Persian and Iranian states and animosity toward the Persian and Iranian peoples. I believe the two topics should be separated.

I agree with User:The Behnam's (correction:User:Khorshid's) assertion (on my talk page) that there exists a "movement to restrain Iran's development", but I don't think a strong case can be made for its existence prior to the 20th century. Although I favor removing much of the article (the Mongolian, colonial, and US sections), I do not think this information should be lost, so I have archived it here.

It is my desire to have a page that addresses only animosity (both historical and modern) toward the Persian and Iranian peoples (this would not include actions by various states against Iran, but could rather be demonstrated by public expressions). The "By Arabs" section does this quite well (even the section on the Iran-Iraq war includes information on Iraqi antagonism towards Iranians as a group). If the AfD result is keep or if the nomination is withdrawn (possible if the US section is dropped--see discussion on User talk:GabrielF), I would like to propose an improvement effort (hopefully with the help of members of "WikiProject:Iran" as my knowledge beyond the modern era is very limited) and will myself try to find reliable sources on anti-Iranian sentiment in the United States in modern times (to replace the existing section). Some of the sources you noted in the AfD, commentary by American public (both governmental and private) figures, and other examples (e.g., the anti-Iranian demonstrations during the hostage crisis were equally hostile to the Iranian government and the Iranian people) can demonstrate this.

If you are considering this so far, let me move on to the issue of what to do with the removed content. It would really be a shame to lose it. Perhaps it could be created as a new article (e.g., International sanction of Iran, International hostility toward Iran, or somesuch). Or it could remain on the Anti-Iranianism page and the other content (regarding animosity toward the Persian and Iranian peoples) could be moved to a new article titled Anti-Iranian sentiments (currently a redirect page).

Would you be willing to consider such an outcome (the particulars can be discussed) so that the two types of anti-Iranian antagonism (versus the state and versus the people) can be separated? -- Black Falcon 08:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Just a note; I agree that there is a movement to restrain Iran's development, but that was User:Khorshid who said that, not I. The Behnam 08:23, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
My apologies for the mistake (I have added a correction above). With all the back-and-forth, my memory betrayed me. Black Falcon 08:28, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Why should hostility toward the Persian and Iranian states and animosity toward the Persian and Iranian peoples be seperate? The two determine eachother's fates. Take 1953. If it were not for the CIA/UK Operation Ajax, Iran's popularly elected Prime Minister would not be replaced by a dictator that became notorious for his Savak torture prisons, and the rise of the mullahs themselves. Another example is the US unilateral sanctions on Iran's government. It has been proven that such sanctions only affect Iran's people, not its government, and yet the U.S. insists it effects the government. I've seen how these sanctions make people's lives miserable.
And yet, I have showed my will for a compromise: I have drastically trimmed down the US section. I hope that suffices, and that you meet me halfway as well.--Zereshk 08:28, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
True--the two are intertwined. However, animosity against the Persian and Iranian peoples requires some sort of negative emotional feeling, whereas hostility against Persia or Iran can simply be the product of political calculation. When a country occupies Iranian territory (e.g., Russia), how is that an indication of animosity toward the Iranian people rather than simple political self-interest? To classify it as such could be construed as original research. In any case, it's not so much a matter of me meeting you half-way (I favor keeping the article even as it is, but discussing possible changes on the talk page instead of the AfD), but rather of the AfD nomination not passing (or User:GabrielF withdrawing his nomination). Black Falcon 08:40, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
So you do agree that they overlap. Thus separating an overlapping issue will only bring more confusion. But sincerely, I think we are approaching a problem of definitions here. The 60 million$ question is: What does it mean to be "anti-Iranian"? Does it mean anti-sentiment? If yes, why? If no, why? First we must answer that. My approach was an all inclusive approach that covered all overlapping areas. But then again, even the "self-interest" you speak of automatically and innately carries with it a dis-interest, if you will, of the other party's rights and integrity. That's why president Bush is forced to explain his war with expressions like "liberating them", "bringing democracy to them", "helping the Iraqi people". If the Russians you speak of cared only for obtaining self interest, they wouldnt shell Iran's parliament, their soldiers wouldnt rape women during the occupation of Tabriz, and they wouldnt grossly disregard the local customs and norms, setting off vast protests by clerics and the Bazaar.--Zereshk 09:26, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes, they do overlap at times (for example, the anti-Iranian protests in the US during the hostage crisis). However, I think the separation will bring more clarity--one article is about animosity against the people and the other about hostility against the state. And both should note non-trivial instances where they overlap. Having no interest in the welfare of X is not same as hating X, which actually requires intense interest (albeit of a negative kind). I (and pretty much everyone else outside of S. Africa) have no interest whatsoever in the Zulu of South Africa; however, neither I nor they are "anti-Zulu". As for the Russian example you gave--even though wars are fought between states, its people that do the killing. Feelings of hatred do arise during wars (it's easier to kill someone you hate), but I think it is inappropriate to classify that as "anti-X sentiment". Ask yourself this: did the Russians rape/kill Persians because they were Persians or because they were citizens of an enemy country? If we take this broader approach, almost every country at some time or another has been anti-everyone else, and this diminishes the importance of the subject. Black Falcon 17:57, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
BF, I disagree. If the article were titled "Anti-Iranian sentiments", you would be right. But that's why it isn't titled that. And this was decided in the last AFD. We're trying to cover a more general ground in the article precisely because political sentiment and people to people racial sentiments cannot and are not seperated. When the 1979 hostage crisis was in full gear here in the states, it was a fully political event against Khomeini's radical govt. And yet Iranians were routinely subject to attacks by mobs in the streets and universities in the US. Believe it or not I still get nasty looks by old folks who still remember the hostage era. If sentiment against the govt and sentiment against the people is seperate as u say, then why is it that Ahmadinejad has called for "wiping Israel off the map", and yet he is almost unanimously regarded as an anti-semite? We had to put up a grand fight here on WP to keep his article off of the anti-semitic category. How do u explain that?--Zereshk 23:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
I attribute it to misunderstanding (at best), ignorance, and/or malice (at worst). People's negative emotions against a particular person or entity often carry over to individuals they perceive to be related to that person or entity, even if no objective basis for such a connection exists. Still, animosity against a government and against its people are conceptually different. If the current article were split into these components, anti-Iranianism directly following 1979 would be included in both: one article would cover US government action against the country of Iran (as well as the actions of other governments) and the other would include animosity against and discrimination of Iranians. Events (such as the hostage crisis and the recent nuclear enrichment controversy), and their consequences, that give rise to both types of animosity should be noted in both articles, although each should have a different focus. Would you agree to moving a portion of the content from the article to Anti-Iranian sentiments (currently a redirect page)--while still leaving the content on the first page? I am willing to do the move and resulting cleanup myself, but I am reluctant to do it if there is not a consensus for it from those who have participated in the creation of the article and the AfD. If the new article shows promise for future expansion, then it would be kept. If not, then we can nominate it for deletion (perhaps speedy deletion per db-author). Black Falcon 00:26, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
My biggest worry is that the article may be deleted and everything it contains will be lost. That, for me, is the worst possible outcome. Black Falcon 00:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC)


Salaam Zereshk. I think you should keep out that big chunk that was removed; its archival on the talk page was part of a compromise deal being worked out. Truly, much of it isn't directly applicable to anti-Iranianism, and these were the concerns voiced at the Afd and on the talk page. The idea was that these sections be reviewed with the concerns put forward by a number of other users in mind, and only parts that are agreed upon as direct cases on anti-Iranianism be reinstated. By reinstating the lengthy synthesized sections, you are preventing the improvements that some users, myself included, felt the article could use. You are compromising the compromise, and in doing so, compromising the article's performance at the Afd as well as its general quality. I don't want this article to get deleted, so I think you should take out most of the tract again, and then propose reintroductions on the talk page for review. I almost had gotten it to the point that Gabriel would withdraw the Afd and agree to improving the article (was waiting for response; all of his conditions had been met), but the US, Mongol, and Russian aspects were particularly important to the deal. In general, other editors complained that the sources of the content themselves did not present the content as examples of anti-Iranianism, but that the authors of this article were taking these as examples under their own synthesis, which is a form of OR. I refer not to the entire article but only to a significant proportion of the aforementioned sections. I think that the approach I advocate will ultimately be best for the article by preventing conflict and assuring relevant content, and urge you to reconsider your reintroduction of the disputed content. The Behnam 08:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry that this seems repetitive; apparently Black Falcon and I had the same remarks and I didn't see it until I got an edit conflict notice, but didn't really bother comparing. The Behnam 08:25, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Interesting video

The youtube video is indeed interesting and unbelievable... I don't believe the family of the other guy was killed by Saddam and he was calling him the with such respect. He was either a stupid man or a liar; I guess he was a liar. --Aminz 09:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

BTW, I need to run now. Just wanted to say I liked the picture you added. --Aminz 09:50, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Salam

Zereshk jan!

alan mifahmam chi bar sare to oomad. digeh hoseleie wikipedia ro nadaram ba in user haie bi akhlagh esh. shaiad digeh kamtar active basham. Sangak 20:14, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the the star. moteassefaneh bazi az user ha engar aadam nistand, shodan mesle robat. vaghean fekr mikonam bazi az inha marizan. Take care. Ba sepaas. Sangak 17:53, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Personal user awards

Image:BoNM_-_Iran.png was moved. Repost it here Wikipedia:Barnstar and award proposals/New Proposals before you add it to the Barnstar page. --evrik (talk) 22:05, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Persian Culture Page

Dear Zereshk, Khoikhoi refered me to you as you seem to be active on Iranian articles. I put a little extra section in Persian culture about religion as religion indeed is a part of culture. I know Iranian diaspora hates to be identified as Arabs and try to avoid subject of Iranian contemporary religion as it links us too much to Arabs. However, from an academic point of view, religion is an importan element and it should be mentioned.

We know it is impossible to go to live in Iran and not note the unique features of Iranian version of Islam and the days they celeberate in their unique way, such as Ashura and carrying Alam and Kotal. I thought that is very Iranian but shame the article has no mention of those.

Anyhow, pleasae do contribute and feel free to add/delete/modify the section. Regards, Persian Magi 10:58, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Award

You should have gotten this a long time ago ;)

Zereshk, is granted the Bayt al-Hikma award, for his outstanding contributions to articles related to Islamic science and Islamic civilization. Jidan 23:22, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Zereshk, is granted the Bayt al-Hikma award, for his outstanding contributions to articles related to Islamic science and Islamic civilization. Jidan 23:22, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Iranian art template

We need a template for history of Persian art similar to that of Greater Iran. There is a template for that [4] but you may know of a better photo or have any other idea. Also we have now Qajar art and Safavid art. This series of articles will be made in future and need categorization. Safavid art is now a featured article in French wiki. By the way are you familiar with French? Take care.Sangak 18:41, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Translation

Salam. Hale Shoma khube In sha allah?

Shoma mitunid hokm Imam baraye Bazargan ra tarjome konid. [5] Baqie Iraniha ya nemitunand ya nemikhahand komak konand. --Sa.vakilian 11:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Man yek tarjome az talfiq 3 tarjome qabli neveshte am. Lotfan nazar dahid:talk:Iranian revolution#chosen translation.--Sa.vakilian 03:55, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Abbas Kiarostami

Hi Zereshk! I am going to nominate this for GA/FA soon. It is now under peer review. It would be nice if you could take a look at it and comment on it. Ba sepaas. Sangak 14:45, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Also The Physical Society of Iran is going to be deleted for lack of notability! Sangak 19:46, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bukhtishu

Zereshk jan! Watch the article you wrote on Bukhtishu. He is Iranian, isn't he? Sangak 20:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Also Yuhanna ibn Bukhtishu. Sangak 20:55, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
The user admits that Yuhanna ibn Bukhtishu is not Arab (see the edit history), still added him to the List of Arab scientists and scholars!! Sangak 21:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Texas Politics

  • Hi Zereshk. I have detected a temporal inconsistency in the Austin, TX article, politics section. The inconsistent phrase reads "Of Austin's six state legislative districts, three are strongly Democratic, and three are swing districts, all of which will be held by Democrats when Valinda Bolton assumes control of District 47 this January.". I am tempted to change it to something like "Of Austin's six state legislative districts, three are strongly Democratic, and three are swing districts. Currently all six are held by Democrats", but since I do not have political knowledge about the region I judged it wiser to ask someone living there. ¿Could you please take a look at it? Charles Dexter Ward 22:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Persian transliteration

Salam!

Please see [6]. We need to change the WP:MoS for Persian transliteration. MoS forces us to use Arabic transliteration for Persian words. It makes no sense. Please see the problem I have now on transliteration of Kiarostami. [7]

Let's make a guideline: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Persian) / WP:MOS-PE. ANy idea? I copy/pasted the Arabic guideline to my user page. let's work here first and then propose it. User:Sangak/Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Persian)

Sangak 13:08, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bakhtishu

The homeland of Syriac and Aramic people is Syria .And the name Bakhtishu according to (كتاب عيون الأنباء في طبقات الأطباء) Kitab oyoon al anbaa fe tabaqat al atebaa from the 12th century for ابن أبي أصيبعة ibn abi usaybia means ومعنى بختيشوع عبد المسيح لأن في اللغة السريانية البخت العبد ويشوع عيسى عليه السلام (servant of Jesus) in Syriac language . also you should mention that Yuhanna ibn Bukhtishu became Bishop of Mousel (893 CE) (northern Iraq) الموصل العراق .Also this family moved to Baghdad and later on to Northern Syria .Hope this helps to expand the articles --Aziz1005 15:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Now I got your point, I wish all other users can explain the way you explain and do not take things offensively. I Came from Syria and I know people who still can speak Aramaic and Syriac there are a lot of similarity in these languages and other Middle Eastern languages in particular Arabic Hebrew (Semitic languages) and perhaps Persian. Also In fact all Middle Eastern languages & people have affected each other thus you can not say that there is a pure ethnic group or language. Thanks again Zereshk --Aziz1005 03:06, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kiarostami: FAC

Hi

I would like to invite all those who reviewed "Abbas Kiarostami" during last two months to comment on the article at this "final" stage. The article is now featured article candidate. In case you have any comment, please let me know on the Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Abbas Kiarostami page. Thanks.Sangak 16:32, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Note

Zereshk jan, please see Chicago's Persian heritage crisis talk page. Sangak 16:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

As far as I understood, There is no clear evidence for Iranian government's involvement in 1997 bombing. All they say is that Iran funds Hamas. However in 1997, Iran was not the main body that funded Hamas. 23 organizations in the US were funding Hamas between 1993-1997. [8] Also Saudi Arabia was among main sources of fundings in 1997.[9] According to an Israeili source in 2003: "the majority of Hamas funding currently comes from sources within Saudi Arabia. Sources like the International Islamic Relief Organization are just one step removed from the Saudi government as subsidiaries of the Muslim World League - a pseudo-governmental agency." the same source adds: "Hamas also gets money from Iran and elsewhere in the Muslim world, as well as from North America and Europe."[10]

Another source from Israel (2005):

Hamas’ funding comes from three [external] sources [11]:

  • A. The United States
  • B. France, Germany and Britain
  • C. The Middle East : According to intelligence reports, 40% of Hamas’ annual income comes from the sheikdoms in the Gulf States and institutions such as [Islamic] [charitable] societies. In addition to the Gulf States, there is Iran, which contributes about 10% of Hamas’ annual income.
  • Another source Neo-con source: "With the fall of Saddam Hussein, one of the primary financial backers of the Palestinian movement, Tehran stepped in to provide Hamas funding that would no longer be coming from Iraq." [12]

I think the above sources clearly indicate that Iran was not the main funding body of Hamas in 1997. Sangak Talk 12:42, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photo Request

Sala'am alaykum wa rahmatu Allahi wa baraka'atuh. I am most interested in the picture shown below. Could you upload it to Wikimedia.org so that I could share this picture and use it on non-English Wikipedia articles? Let me know asap. - Omar 180 19:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kiarostami was promoted!

Salam

Another Featured article for Iran :-)

I need to thank you for your kind support. Thanks and All the best. Sangak Talk 11:32, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Havaset be Halabcheh basheh! Ta vaghtee saddam zendeh bood, migoftand oon mas-ool boodeh va gazee ke estefadeh shode bood khardal boodeh. hala ke saddam mordeh, ghesse avaz shodeh! Iran shode masool! gaz ham shodeh cyanide!! [13]. Sangak Talk 19:27, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Xerxes lash sea.JPG

Salam Zereshk jan; I had a question about the image Image:Xerxes lash sea.JPG. I see that you uploaded this image. But do you think it has any encyclopedic value? I don't think that Xerxes the Great was stupid enough to punish the sea for the loss of the battle. And it only leads to missunderstandings that Xerxes was a foolish minded Empror of Persia who taught that the sea was responsible for his loss. I'm thinking of removing it from the article. I would be glad to hear from you on my talk page. --Arad 23:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Iranian Hostage Crisis FPC

Hi Zereshk. There is a nomination of Featured Picture Candidates about an image on Iranian Hostage Crisis. I would like to know your point of view about the image and if it's appropriate that it gets FP statue and we see it on front page. It can be found here:[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Iranian_hostage_crisis_protest] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Arad (talk • contribs) 00:19, 10 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Thank you

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Thank you for all the hard efforts you make for Iran-Related Articles ans WikIran Arad 02:53, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You may be interested

In case you didn't notice, there is an active effort to fix up Anti-Iranian sentiments. I think you should head over there when you can. The Behnam 07:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

A clear example of Anti-Iranian sentiment:
  • In 2007 the Arab director of "New York South Asian Film Festival" admitted that a conscious decision was made not to invite any Iranian filmmakers. Ahmed Issawi said: "That’s a territory I no longer want to tread". "It’s over. Given the whole thing with Iran—I refuse to approach it.", Issawi added.[1]

Sangak Talk 16:00, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proto-Elamite Vase

Hello,

I was just wondering about the picture of the Elamite vase you posted on the article about Elam. Isn't the inscription written in linear Elamite as opposed to Proto-Elamite? The inscription on the cup/vase strongly resembles linear Elamite,the style of writing which succeeded Proto-Elamite. From what I've seen, Proto-Elamite writing is much simpler and is less pictorial than linear Elamite. But then again I'm not very familiar with Proto-Elamite history.

Take care.

Šarukinu 02:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Translation

Salam. Chetori shoma?

Please help us with translation:Talk:Combatant Clergy Association. What do you propose for "Jamme rohaniate mobarez"Sa.vakilian(t-c)--14:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Medical centers

My apologies for removing the link to South Texas Medical Center from the TMC article. I wasn't aware of the other Texas centers. Thanks, Postoak 21:29, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your edits

I don't know if you realize it, but you mistakingly reverted all of your and SSZ's improvements. Just click on the version before your last two edits, and save it as it is, to restore all the improvements. --Mardavich 09:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Well then there must be something wrong with the data base or a bug, just save the source of your preferred version from history on your user-page or in file, and try updating the page later on. --Mardavich 09:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR New editor warning

Zereshk, you aren't a new editor at all, so I don't have to give you a 3RR warning first. Sorry. The Behnam 01:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future.

The duration of the block is 24 hours. Here are the reverts in question. Nishkid64 01:28, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arvandrud/Shatt al-Arab

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