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Contents 1 History 2 Map 3 info request 4 GDP 5 UNITA and Zambia 6 Proposed WikiProject 7 cleaning up of the culture section 8 Number of languages 9 Higher education 10 Ethnic groups in Zambia 11 Religion section needs improving

[edit] History

The history section seems to be more detailed than the History of Zambia article. I think it would be better if a summary of the history was used in this section. If anyone is willing to summarise the history, please do; I don't trust myself with editing something that big. ;-) Mokupo 18:20, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Map

A controversy has erupted over the choice of map for this article. The two candidates are shown here, along with any others that other Wikipedians may choose to enter. Feel free to make any comments. The lower map may also appear in the corresponding Geography article for this country. Kelisi 17:02, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The lower one would of course be reduced but could be enlarged by clicking. Kelisi 17:02, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ow ow ow, the lower one made my eyes hurt, now I can barely see what I'm typing. :-) I'm not a graphic designer, but even I know it's a big no-no to use large areas of saturated color in a map. Stan 17:57, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The top one is simple, but I like the detail of the lower one. The international development agency I work for operates in the eastern part of Zambia and its nice to see some of those communities represented. Is there a place for both maps? Tim Graff 00:28, July 12, 2005 (UTC)

The difficulty is that in order to see that detail, it needs to be presented at 5-600 pixels. On the smallest screens (640x480), this mucks things up, which is why pictures on wikipedia are usually no more than 400px. Perhaps a link could be added with appropriate note ("click here for bigger, more detailed map"). Rd232 17:25, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

'Mumpolokoso': as far as I'm aware this is an alternative spelling for Mporokoso which is about 60 km north of the Kalungwishi not on its southern bank. It could be a little village associated with the Chief but there is no town at that location worthy of inclusion -- and it is not listed on my 2001 1:1500000 map of Zambia. Needs to be replaced by 'Mporokoso' at the correct location. Rexparry sydney 13:50, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] info request

Is The University of Zambia (in Lusaka) still working? I remember they tried to close it a while ago, and the website is not working now. Thank you. Gala.martin 22:46, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I do not watch this page anymore. If you ever answer, please do on my talk page. Thank you. gala.martin (what?) 17:18, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GDP

$10billion. i dont think so. Check your facts more. $4~$6 billion is more accurate.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sabuj001 (talk • contribs) 22:07, 1 May 2006 (UTC).

Well, if you checked YOUR facts, maybe you'd know that the World Monetary Fund puts Zambia's GDP at $10 billion. DUHHHHHHHH DJDavis92 04:09, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] UNITA and Zambia

Mentioning UNITA is not really a good choice when citing "anti-colonial" forces supported by Zambia. See Democratic International and then see if you really believe UNITA was "anti-colonial" or if it was just a puppet of neo-cons in the US.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thomas.macmillan (talk • contribs) 21:26, 11 June 2006 (UTC).

I'm afraid you're being anachronistic. Movements can change their political line, and very few have had so radical transformations as the UNITA; this was created in 1966 to fight against the Potuguese, and of the three libertation movements, believe it or not, the UNITA was the most radical and leftist, more even than the MPLA, with strong ties with China, where Savimbi and most of the UNITA leaders had military and ideological training. This was till 1975, when Angola became independent and the MPLA assumed control of the capital; and from that moment the movement started moving right, obtaining in the 80s strong US support. But this is of no interest in this article, as with the indep. of Angola Zambia ceased supporting UNITA.--Aldux 22:07, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I wish to dispute that claim. Zambia did not cease supporting UNITA after Angolan independence. In the 1990's non-UNITA Angola threatened to invade Zambia if Zambia did not stop supporting UNITA, I was in Zambia then and remember the article in the papers, I am still here. Zambia only stopped supporting UNITA after Savimbi was killed. It was a strange choice of ally as the UNIP regime supported leftist movements, UNITA was the exception that proved the rule. Due to the confusion of the cold war in the region it is not a huge stretch of the imagination that Zambia should support UNITA. UNITA was the puppet of the US and apartheid South Africa.Richardczam 12:50, 21 January 2007 (UTC)Richard

Could you cite specific references that others can check? -Pgan002 04:47, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed WikiProject

In my ongoing efforts to try to include every country on the planet included in the scope of a WikiProject, I have proposed a new project on Eastern Africa at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Eastern Africa whose scope would include Zambia. Any interested parties are more than welcome to add their names there, so we can see if there is enough interest to start such a project. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:31, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] cleaning up of the culture section

Please forgive me if i have wrongly edited the culture section as i am not born in Zambia. I was wondering if anyone would know the prodecures or explanation of the Zambia traditional ceremonies, rituals and arts. (Luffy487 09:30, 16 January 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Number of languages

There is a discrepancy in the article about number of languages spoken in Zambia. In the Languages section, the first sentence says 78, but the last says 72, while the page linked from the last sentence lists only 70. -Pgan002 04:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Higher education

"In the late 1970s a second university opened on the copperbelt, taking over most of what previously was the Zambia Institute of Technology (ZIT) in Kitwe."

So this is a third university, but second on the copperbelt after the Copperbelt University? Also, can you say more about the ZIT -- when was it established, was it closed? -Pgan002 05:05, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

"Other places of learning include NIPA (Public administrations college, Zicas etc.)."

What is NIPA? What is Zicas? Can you say more instead of "etc."? -Pgan002 05:05, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ethnic groups in Zambia

The Guardian posted this article regarding the strong presence of ethnic Chinese in Zambia (and the locals complaints regarding loss of jobs due to the new immigration). May be able to some how tie this into the article? Thanks in advance. Vnv lain 17:50, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Religion section needs improving

Can I propose (1) a better survey of the common denominations, some prominent ones are missing (2) a revision of history -- French and French Canadian catholics were probably more influential than any from Portugal/Mozambique, and non-conformist missionaries were more widespread than Anglicans -- or perhaps 'history of missions in Zambia' should be a separate article (3) reduction of detail on Milingo, on grounds of relevancy, and of religions with less than, say, 1% of adherents. Rexparry sydney 22:46, 27 February 2007 (UTC)