Talk:Zaheer Abbas

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Zaheer should be identified as a Pakistan cricketer (his country) rather than Pakistani, which to many people is a derogatory racist description. He originally came to Gloucestershire because they were tipped off before he came on his first Pakistan tour as a very young man, and they made him feel welcome and wanted. Glo'shire have had Mike Procter and Courtney Walsh as overseas players who have stayed a while and made a big impact, not to mention Ian Harvey, so Zaheer is not unique in this regard. Zaheer in those days had to qualify by residence, and he spent a year playing non-Championship, club and ground and benefit cricket, which got him round and about the County meeting people and making friends. I have not checked, but I believe that Glo'shire has more occasions of a batsman scoring double hundreds plus single hundreds in the same first-class match than anybody else, and all but one are down to Zaheer.

• Re the first line, I thought it was a shorter form that is considered racist. Re the last, I saw a 1999 list which has four 200-100 for Gloucs (nobody else had three) and all four were made by Zaheer. Tintin (talk) 15:47, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

• Agree "Paki" must be assumed always to be a derogatory racist label and to be avoided, but "Pakistani" has a certain "guilt by association" about it for many people, and I for one prefer not to see it used. Guy 19:46, 28 April 2006 (UTC)