User talk:Zafonic

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[edit] Racehorse categories

As a contributor to racehorse articles I would appreciate you taking a look at Category_talk:Racehorses and expressing any views you have regarding Racehorse categories. - Cuddy Wifter 06:29, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grand Steeple-Chase de Paris

Hello,

could you please check this article Grand Steeple-Chase de Paris, because my english is not very good. Thanks in advance. Historicair 15:18, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Just wanted to thank you for being brave enough to cover this vast subject. I notice Arc De Triomphe entry so far only covers the structure and not the coming-up race. anyway keep it up Trojan horse! Norwikian 10:18, 6 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Category:Horse racing by type

You did a lot of good work on this but I wonder if the "circa" is appropriate for defining distances. I think they need to be explicit as there is a huge difference when experts and commentators anaylse races even with a difference as little as 1/16 of a mile. Also, as I'm no good at titles, could you perhaps come up with a category for races open to all horses, regardless of sex, for ages 3 & up. (See : Marlboro Cup Invitational Handicap, Canadian International Stakes, Breeders' Cup Classic etc. Thanx. Handicapper 15:18, 8 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Thoroughbred horse Infobox template

Galopin has generously volunteered to help the Wikipedia:WikiProject Thoroughbred racing create an Infobox and has done a great job. Take a look at his talk page (User talk:Galopin#Template tests) for the two choices for the bottom box and those horses where I set up their box today using sample 1. Handicapper 18:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Race results tables

I see where you removed the betting odds column from the table you created at Prix de l'Abbaye de Longchamp. There are others where page lines are doubled because of the betting column. I think this is unnecessay information and should be removed from all tables. Do you agree? Handicapper 18:13, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stéphane Pasquier

Hello, I have tried to translate the french wikipedia about Pasquier, but my english is quite bad and poor, so it will be cool if you can verify it on Stéphane Pasquier. Thanks in advance. Historicair 15:25, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stubs

Classification Clearly, over 90% of them are stubs. Some of them are long tables, but that does not make it a non-stub article. Per Wikipedia:Stub:

Once a stub has been properly expanded and becomes an article rather than just a stub, you or any editor may remove the stub tag from it. No administration action or formal permission is needed. Be bold in removing stub tags which are clearly no longer applicable.

The example you gave is probably reasonable as an article, but most of these don't actual merit being an article, but a list or table of information (which itself is not very long.) -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 20:16, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

What are you doing? Clearly Dubai Sheema Classic is a stub. You're deleting the stub category from articles that have a postage stamp worth of information on them and are clearly stubs. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 20:21, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jockey stats

Hi, I just wondered where you get a jockey's winner totals per season from? I'm planning on starting a number of jockeys' articles, and these stats will be very useful. Cheers, DavyJonesLocker 17:39, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I don't have any of those books so my research has pretty much been confined to the internet. I've found some free stats on www.flatstats.co.uk, but they differ, sometimes quite heavily, from those found on the RacingPost site so I'm not sure how reliable they are or how they tally with yours, so for the mean time I've only used them on Richard Hughes.DavyJonesLocker 16:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Re: Flatstats stats different to Racing Post. Some media sites such as the Racing Post will show the stats from both all weather and turf racing combined whilst Flatstats shows seperate stats for both surfaces. Another reason is because Flatstats reports automatically exclude races for Amateur, Apprentice and Lady only riders. You need to include these in the Flatstats report if you want to see the stats for all types of races. - Flatstats.co.uk 10:57, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Racehorse categories

The very substantial work you did to create the racehorse birth/death categories is appreciated by all. Handicapper 18:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prix Eugene Adam

You reverted my edit: "moved Prix Eugene Adam to Prix Eugène Adam: title incorrect without the accent)". This is an English encyclopedia and in english the name Eugene has no accent and we use English names similar to the use of French names in the Wikipedia French encyclopedia such as the Epsom Derby See: Derby d'Epsom. The use of accents here causes many problems with redirects and, and all of the millions of English people search without accents (because they don't know anything about them) and like me, could not find Prix Eugène Adam. Thanx. Handicapper 18:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for clearing up my articles for me

Thanks for improving some of the articles which I started. I'm pleased that we have created the reference articles for racing. --Wikipediatastic 11:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Thanks likewise

I'd also like to add my thanks for straightening up my articles, adding winners lists etc, articularly the ones on the Group 3 British flat races. Not always sure of what are the right sort of standards so I'm very grateful for your help. I'll keep working on the Group 3s for the moment. Bcp67 21:51, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Khalid Abdullah

Cheers for fixing all those links; I knew I'd broken them yesterday, but I was going to do them today when I had more time. Anyway; I've also added something to the A. P./Tony McCoy dicussion page which you might be interested in. DavyJonesLocker 18:12, 23 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] French alphabet usage

I do object for a number of reasons but I see where some places (articles) it has been done while not in others. As such, please leave it as is in English for now and ASAP I will prepare my views on the subject for assessment and appropriate action by fellow Wikipedians and the appropriate Wikipedia panel responsible for policy. Thanx. Handicapper 22:05, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Irish flat horse races

I see you are the only editor of List of Irish flat horse races and wonder why there is no introduction or explanation for the 3 groups used, nor is there a general introduction to the list even if it would be short. I also left a similar note on the talk page. Without looking at each it looks like you also made the other horse racing lists also without any intro. Cheers ww2censor 17:51, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Racehorse article titling

User:Bcp67 raised the issue (on my talk page) of naming conventions after I changed "Classic Races" to United Kingdom Classic Races. I responded here User talk:Bcp67#UK Classic Races and thought you might want to look at it with respect to the titling of British flat racing Champion Sire /Jockey/Apprentice/Trainer/Owner articles. Thanx. Handicapper 14:40, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

As I told Bcp67, I'm not going to do anything as I think this is an issue for people from the U.K. to decide because the issue of it being officially named the "United Kingdom" is important within the context of stating facts in an encyclopedia. Somewhere at Wikipedia I came across a referral mechanism but can't remember where. Handicapper 20:21, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


You mentiomned categories: I also think we need categories for the Champion sires, jockey, trainer etc from the U.K. and France. Handicapper 21:23, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Nijinsky II

You might be interested in my comments at Talk:Nijinsky II regarding Find A Grave. Handicapper 15:29, 27 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Unreferenced tag on race article

Someone has stuck an unreferenced marker on the article about the Criterion Stakes. What can I do about this? As the bulk of the article is the winners list surely that is a matter of public record rather than anything I can reference to. Any ideas? Bcp67 20:20, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with the link. Most of my detail about race results is derived from the Racing Post website or from a couple of books that I've got. Bcp67 20:45, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Newbury racecourse logo.jpg)

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[edit] Gary Moore

I've taken out the reference to Gary W.Moore being a succesful trainer in England in the Gold River article. As far as I know, the Gold River jockey is an Australian, the son of George Moore who rode for Noel Murless in Britain in the 1960s. Gary Moore the trainer (father of Ryan and Jamie) is entirely English. To add to the confusion I have a feeling that his father might also have been named George! Bcp67 19:44, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry! Probably comes from Handicapper's unfamiliarity with the UK racing scene - and my unfamiliarity with whose edit I was changing!! Bcp67 19:52, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Persian Punch

Would you mind sparing a few minutes to have a look at the article on Persian Punch? It was a bit of a mess and I've tried to straighten it up and make it a proper Wiki article but I'd be very grateful if you could add any further revsion. Thanks. Bcp67 21:48, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Winners since...

In my race articles (thanks btw for sorting out the mess I made of the Reynoldstown Novices' Chase!), I've usually stuck to the format of Winners since 1988. Is there any particular reason for going back to 1988? Generally the Racing Post database only goes back that early but do you think it worthwhile to go back earlier for run-of-the-mill races? I suppose its a question of knowing where to stop and having a sensible cut-off date? Bcp67


[edit] Winners tables

The European races use the Color =#99ff99 for the bar which is Green. I did a new table (with owners) for the Breeders' Cup Juvenile which is raced on dirt with the Color #D2B48C which is Tan. I thought that for races on dirt they could be done with a Brown/Tan bar whereas for Turf races, use the green. Handicapper 17:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] New Jockey category

I made a new Category "Jockeys killed while racing" so if you know any in the UK, France, etc. that fit. Because its realtively small, I think one category is probaby enough but if you wish, divide them by country. Handicapper 16:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)