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[edit] Rapid KL buses

IMHO separating the buses back into zones is not useful to readers. Users wouldn't really bother to know which Area they are in. Besides the bus numbering already does that job. At the beginning of the article, readers are briefed about this system, so there is no use repeating it.

Furthermore, most people would not be interested in knowing the dates of the revamp when planning their journey. Hence I believe that putting all that "historical information" under the heading "history" is better suited.

I think dividing the route information into many bits and pieces like it is now is confusing. Readers would think that there are six different systems in place, when in fact Rapid KL launched the routes according to Areas out of convenience.

Please reconsider the case for grouping all the bus routes into types again. Thanks.

Stargirl85 15:00, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


Stargirl85, please read the comments at the talk session of Rapid KL Buses Thank you :)


Re your msg: "Helo, in regards for Rapid KL page, can you do me a favour? Can you do make another map for the public transport in KL (the generic map), with showing only the Rapid KL rails visible (both Ampang/Sripetaling and Kelana Jaya lines) while the other rail lines blurred. (What you have done so far, is highlighting the lines in 2 separate maps). I want to display the map visibly in the Rapid KL main wikisite. Thank you :) Zack2007 06:41, 9 October 2006 (UTC)"

Tks for your msg. I do not have a PC with Adobe Illustrator at the moment. Will do the necessary maps when I get my hands on one. My old PC has gone kaput so can't do much now. Slleong 13:26, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Regarding your recent message: colour coding - I think it is a good idea in colouring the column. Yes that can help consolidate some of the messy tables.

connection from and to - I think it is a good idea, although I am not sure how useful it would be. Not everyone changes at the beginning and end of the routes. I think a better thing to work on is to create pages for hubs and train stations like KL Sentral. Or maybe better clearer versions of Rapid KL's network maps. Trying to describe connections using words can be confusing and it is better done by showing maps.

route description - that's what I've been trying to do. Starting of with train stations.

I can try my best to help. :) Stargirl85 10:56, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kuala Lampur

Nice work on the Kuala Lampur article. One minor point, though-- the Manual of Style calls for lower case in headings after the initial cap in most cases ("Public transportation", not "Public Transportation"). Also, you might want to try to be more attentive to filling in the Edit summary field on every edit-- it helps other editors decide whether they need to check out any particular edit. Sorry to be carping-- there's a lot to learn when you get started here.

Happy editing! -- Mwanner | Talk 13:12, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About Rail Transport (Klang Valley)

I agree with what you said, Zack2007. I also think that it should be renamed from Light Rail Transport (Klang Valley) to Rail Transport (Klang Valley). However, I cannot move the categories. Thank you. Acs4b 04:14, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I think categories should be named according to naming conventions. For example, I think Rail transport(Klang Valley) should be Rail transport in Klang Valley like other similar categories.Wai Hong 08:04, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Creating station pages

In the pages you have created, you have mentioned "___________ station or __________ is an LRT station in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia that is operated by Kelana Jaya Line." Kelana Jaya Line is the name of the service, not the name of the operator. Before you go on to create more pages, please correct this. Also, why do we have to repeat the "_________ station or _________". Isn't that redundant?

And can you cite the references wrt the overhead bridge from Abdullah Hukum etc.

Painkille 16:12, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grammar

Masjid Jamek station;

"Masjid Jamek station is a set of LRT stations operated by Rapid KL and served for the Kelana Jaya Line and both the Ampang Line and Sri Petaling Line."

Isn't the grammar wrong - the "served for the ..."? Rapid KL isn't serving something TO Kelana Jaya, as your correction implies. Rather, it should read as ...Rapid KL and served by the... since Rapid KL is using the Kelana Jaya Line to serve the station.

I think you have used this grammar on quite a number of pages, and I would like to clarify this with you before any further changes are made. Painkille 16:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Yah it should be "___ Station is served by the _____ Line" Painkille 08:58, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Malaysia Airlines

Look, i didn't delete the information, i shifted it to the timeline of MAS since some people tag it as ad,but nvm, if u think it is better to shif it back to the original,then it is okay,i just don't like those people who tag almost all Malaysia Airlines article as ad when they the POV is not disputed.Marcusaffleck 10:55, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] demographics of malaysia and malaysian culture

it is a fact. a very popular opinion. racism really exist in malaysia. and i think if the malays, find out about this, they will wake up and do something to change the way other races think. please just leave it or fix it to make it sound more... official.

Read what i said in your page (pleae log in..dont hide under ur ip, u seem suspicious, even though ur ip said ur in Johor Bahru btw)Zack2007 10:46, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

i dont see anything wrong with my edit. there are many pages with this type of thing. like... criticisms on the new bond actor.

you must be a malay yourself. what are you doing wasting your time in wikipedia. go study instead of wasting your parents money.

I am sorry that you think such a thing. I am contributing to wikipedia, and not trying to bash anyone's race or benefiting whatever race I am. And I am carrying the neutral point of view of Wikipedia. Let say what you said is correct, why dont you present urself with credible evidence and proof. Criticism is the new bond actor, but if it is not credible enough, who would listen to you. This age is about evidence based and proof-based information. And, what is wrong with spending time with wikipedia? There are millions who use wikipedia out there. Even yourself. Without anyone contributing, how could it grow. May I suggest you contribute. I mean informatively contribute and register your IP address. From that I can see your 'seriousness' in contributing. Zack2007 06:55, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh I just read the comments u put in demographics of malaysia. I forgot how the level of mentality you are. My time is so wasted trying to explain to you while your mentality is succumb into that low level. From now on, you do not have my respect anymore.Zack2007 07:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

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It is from Google Map,thus you need a written permission from Google to use it in Wikipedia.

[edit] Air Nepal Intl

Your credibility of being a capable wikipedian is indeed being questioned. You are a Malaysian yourself but you do not even know about the on goings at KLIA. You refuse to believe that Air Nepal International(SZ) has terminated services to KLIA and on top of this has since ceased operations. When MAS(MH) ceased oeprations to Ahmedabad, Manchester, Xian etc it was also a quiet affair which little people are aware of let alone this low profile airline-SZ). Call and check the "office of" SZ to check.218.186.8.13 01:42, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Your credibility of being a capable wikipedian is being questioned as well. Firstly, you do not even has a user ID. How convinient is that. Everyone knows where you live now. I refuse to believe because you do not give any PROOF at all. All you said above is blabbing BS about that it ceased operation and I am not a malaysian because I don't believe on that. Duh, are you more malaysian by believing on that? I can say anything cease operation but are you goin to believe me without any proof. All the evidence are pointed into saying they have not ceasing operation. I am going against you this time unless you have given me a CREDIBLE PROOF! --Zack2007 05:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC)


hello i have personally called KLIA to verify and you yourself can check that their website is no longer in use they have ceased operations for goodness sake.218.186.8.13 05:30, 20 December 2006 (UTC)what credible proof can you give that they are in operation?

can you read the talk page of Kuala Lumpur International Airport? I have mentioned two proofs there. From KLIA website and from Manang travel agent(this maybe not so credible). but what I am saying is, you and marcus said two different things. Marcus mentioned he has asked the KLIA officials, and you also called KLIA. WHo is correct? I would rather believe Marcus, at least he does not hide under his shadow (well he registers), unlike you who rather be anon (go register yourself a nickname for gawd sake). --Zack2007 05:38, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

fine zack so it was not you who doubted this.i am sorry. btw in this free-for-all-to-edit wikipedia. you have to understand that here in wikipedia, there are just as many wikipedians that choose to contribute not for fame unlike some people who throw their weights around that they edited most they are more senior or what so ever nonsense.and to the fact that i sounded harsh, i offer my apologies here I AM sorry. so it was that marcus. if he were to go and check the IATA website too beside asking that "offical" from KLIA, he would have known that Air Nepal International(SZ) is NO LONGER in operation. I would love to have airlines in KLIA but this does not change the fact that Air Mepal International is no longer in operation. http://www.airlinecodes.co.uk/ There is currently no Airline allocated to IATA Code SZ. Ask him if he needs me to call the international office of IATA too. Where is his credibility as a wikipedian. Does he not know that wikipedians are not always right and that he should not throw his weight around that he is a wikipedian? Finally please tell him to move on. and to check his sources before he accuse that i am wrong. i did my homework.218.186.8.13 05:53, 20 December 2006 (UTC)


It's not being famous or anything really for registering. It is about being consistency. And by being consistency you are more valued of your contribution. I know you use the same IP address everytime. But you are risking exposure of your IP address as well which is not good. I really seriously think you should rethink about contributing with IP address exposed. Alright these are what I call proofs. Thank you for letting me know and realize that we can check their IATA code online. Hmm, can you please repost what u just said above in the talk page of KLIA. I am sure everyone would realise it now. Don't merely edit the article without everyone agrees, ok? it just sounds so suspicious, and we wikipedian don't like suspicious things. I know Marcus has serious explaining to do but you did ur homework. Well done! sorry if I have said some harsh things as well. Please post the things u said in talk page of KLIA. thank you. --Zack2007 06:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] KLIA page protection

i think klia page need to be protected and locked again. mike86 6.05, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Here, just leave it like that, request for protection and it will keep that person mouth shut.Marcusaffleck 10:32, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Here is another proof ---- 200px|thumb|left| Click to seeMarcusaffleck 10:40, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I've downloaded the program, SZ is shown to fly to KLIA. And then I tried the online flight information in KLIA website. NO SZ flight... the software is not updated. Please check again. --Zack2007 11:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use image in user namespace

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Sincerely, --Oden 04:07, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jawi and Chinese characters

Regarding the use of the characters mentioned above in Kuching, I beg to differ. Jawi might be part of the Malay language, but it is not used officially. Furthermore, official government documents use Roman alphabets.

On the issue of Kuching, there is no Jawi signboards in Kuching, not even as a subtitle for road names. While the airport does provide signs in other languages, it is in Arabic, not Jawi. Therefore I believe that we should limit it to just 'Kuching'. The same goes with the airport article too.– Matthew A. Lockhart (talk) 10:48, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Having a Jawi script is not wrong. But I prefer putting them where the entity in question is actually spelled in Jawi - for example, Utusan Melayu, Tuhfat al-Nahfis and Sejarah Melayu. I noticed that in Malaysia Airlines, Jawi and Chinese were used. It's a little too much, don't you think? If MAS used Jawi and/or Chinese in it's broucheres, magazines and correspondence that it will be okay, otherwise I am of the opinion that both should go.
Again I repeat my point that Kuching does not use Jawi either officially or non-officially. Have a look at the Sarawak state emblem, the city council logos and other materials relating to Sarawak. You will find that Jawi is rarely, if ever, used. Of course, I have no objection over this if the entity fulfilled the requirement that I have outlined above.– Matthew A. Lockhart (talk) 12:50, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
I would like to propose something to help us come to an agreement:
  • Roman and Jawi will be used, but Jawi is used either in the infobox or article (not both);
  • Other scripts should be preferably placed in the article, as to avoid cluttering the infobox;
  • We must not have too many scripts, unless it is relevant (for example, airports that have Japanese and Chinese scripts)
So, what say you? Bolehkah?– Matthew A. Lockhart (talk) 15:17, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
I hereby agree with your suggestion. And as per the mediation cabal of the Changi Airport, I think that word-by-word, translated versions of the original name should be sidelined. After all, the discussions over at Changi indicates that the usage of the four languages in dispute is widespread (on signs and so on). The same cannot be said for Jawi. Kuala Lumpur International Airport's infobox is fine for me, but I am not satisfied with Malaysia Airlines's, of which I am of the opionion that English and Malay should suffice. After all, Jawi is Malay written in another script.
For other articles regarding Malaysia, I believe that it will be good if the Jawi script goes into the infobox (if it has one) and in the introduction (if it does not have an infobox). And of course, for Kuching the Roman and Jawi script should suffice.– Matthew A. Lockhart (talk) 18:13, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
We might have a situation at Kuching. Have a look at the history. Could you please talk to Mike86?– Matthew A. Lockhart (talk) 12:06, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
The problem is not with earth, but with Mike86's addition of Chinese scripts. San Francisco with its 31% Chinese population does not have Chinese scripts. earth has cited WP:UE as the reason for removal, and I agree with him.– Matthew A. Lockhart (talk) 07:51, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Great work! But mention Malaysia...

Hi Zack2007 - I must congratulate you on making such a lot of useful contributions to Wikipedia - so many new articles, carefully and systematically added!

One small point. I was editing a couple of your neat little articles about LRT stations (because I was working on an article about a place near them) and noticed that the articles assumed that the reader knows that they are in Kuala Lumpur and that KL is in Malaysia. Have a look at Sentul LRT station, for example. I think it would be better to start something like:

Sentul LRT station is an LRT near Sentul in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. The station is operated by Rapid KL and served by Ampang Line and Sri Petaling Line.

instead of just:

Sentul LRT station is an LRT station operated by Rapid KL and served by Ampang Line and Sri Petaling Line.

By including the "in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia" you help readers who are unfortunate enough not to be familiar with Malaysia.

I've done a few of the southern stations on the Sri Petaling Line, but haven't time to do them all. Thought this comment may help when you are creating new articles.

Keep up the good work. Wikipedia needs people like you :)

Euchiasmus 07:57, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Plagiarising your interwiki link

Don't worry about it.– Matthew A. Lockhart (talk) 17:52, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Careful editing

Hi. I noticed your recent editing to the Batu Pahat page. Please do not simply add the flag and info box into the page, and shrinked the Johore map. You made the whole page looked very improportionate and messy. Please be more sensible in editing, if you can't, just leave it alone. Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kevzz (talk • contribs) 12:02, 19 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Help adding the map image in the view

Done, though the coding may need some cleaning up to do, which I don't have much time to attend to right now --Bukhrin 07:05, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

  • ok --Bukhrin 08:03, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jawi Script

Actually im not so sure if Jawi Script is really necessary to be included in the page. However, i think Kawaputra is somehow right that Sabah & Sarawak is very different from the west Malaysia since the agreement of Malaysia Formation in 1963 was being inked. Sabah & Sarawak may have some politically different from the West Malaysia as well as the immigration control of West Malaysians to Sabah and Sarawak. Being a resident of Kuching, as i have been raised up here for more than 20 years, i never see a Jawi Script was being used in the city. As i have said Kuching is unique from other cities in Malaysia where it is the only city in Malaysia with road names printed in Chinese/Mandarin. Besides, Jawi Script was only compulsory to Muslims where there is a large number of Malaysians cannot read the script, this is one of the points. Besides, Jawi Script has never been utilised in Malaysia where it is only utilised in Islamic teaching. These are my comments about this issue. I think only certain states or cities in Malaysia deserve to have Jawi Script, such as Kelantan, Kota Bharu, etc. Mike86 13:35, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please help with Tunku Ismail Ibrahim

Hi! I am working on the article Tunku Ismail Ibrahim. As you are from Malaysia, can you please help me in explaining the concepts of Raja Muda and Tunku Mahkota. We need articles on these two (at least stubs). The information on the web is pretty much confusing for a non-Malaysian like me. So, it would be great if you could explain the terms and help in the expansion and improvement of the article in question. Thanks! --Vikas Kumar Ojha Talk to me! 03:14, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mediation Cabal Request

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[edit] Re: Rapid transit system?

The lines do run along the Klang Valley. If this is too much trouble, I suggest deleting the Klang Valley transport categories to be replaced by Category:Transport in Kuala Lumpur, Category:Transport in Selangor and Category:Transport in Negeri Sembilan (for the Rawang-Seremban Line). The Klang Valley isn't an official territory anyway. - Two hundred percent 05:09, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Fine, do whatever you like, but replace Category:Rail Transport (Klang Valley), and rename Category:Light Rail Transit (Malaysia) lines and Category:Rail Transport (Klang Valley) stations per naming convention. The sloppy naming was the reason I started the resuffle in the first place. But I can't edit large volumes of text right now. - Two hundred percent 05:49, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
But it's still techically correct that the rail lines are in the Klang Valley. Part of it runs outside KL and runs within the Valley. And why would Category:Rail Transport (Klang Valley) stations list stations along said lines too? - Two hundred percent 05:54, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] New State template

i made a new template: template:kelantan, and template:sabah. they now include the coat of arms of the state. tell me what u think ok. kawaputra 05:20, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

your template looks fine. however im not sure if it will work for larger navbox/template eg Johor, Sabah, Selangor. i tried using ur template on Sabah, but the flag was not parallel with the coat of arms. if u can make it parallel, i have no problem with it..kawaputra 09:32, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

ya sure. i'll gradually change those templates soon when free. u can help too if u like yea..--kawaputra 11:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
hey, the new navbox is not bad. i would like it more if u can justify the text (make it centered). now the text are aligned to the left, so it looks abit unbalanced. but otherwise not bad la..kawaputra 07:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
yea the johor one is ok for me. personally i like Template:Kuala Lumpur. maybe we should the other msian editors what they think? kawaputra 09:02, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bandaraya or Bandar Raya

are u suggesting we use "Bandar Raya" for all the local councils in msia? eg DBKL, DBKK? im not sure la. i think as long as these councils still use "Bandaraya" we should just follow this. also, they are names or titles. just like "Johor Bahru" instead of "Johor Baru".. kawaputra 13:13, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

ic. if like that, then i have no problem. we can use 'bandar raya', sure. kawaputra 14:18, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Alliance Templates

Do you have a reason why you changed the SkyTeam, Star Alliance, and oneworld templates? The way they are is fine. It's also easy to edit. Therefore, I did revert your edits.--Golich17 17:12, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

According to many editors, using the logo isn't fair use, as I have already tried to incorporate the logo.--Golich17 18:58, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "The Bee"?

Hi. What's up with this edit? What exactly is "The Bee" and what does it have to do with the Qu'ran? Thanks. --SigPig |SEND - OVER 14:12, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks. It does clear this up. It's just very confusing to non-Muslims like myself who are not aware of such naming conventions. I was initially afraid it was some kind of silly vandalism, but I searched back through the history to see who did it, and you don't seem to be the type, so then I figured there was a logical explanation.
If different chapters of the Qu'ran have common names, then perhaps there should be an article about those names, and why they were given; this seems to me to be really useful information. Cheers, and thanks for the quick reply. --SigPig |SEND - OVER 03:33, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
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