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My Iwanami dictionary has yuzu in hiragana, not katakana.

Your dictionary is wrong. In scientific contexts the names of plants and animals, when not spelled in kanji, are always in katakana in Japanese. Jpatokal 11:12, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese name

If Chinese 柚子 is pomelo, not yuzu, then what is the Chinese name for what is called yuzu in Japanese (and which apparently originally came from China, and still grows wild in some parts of China, but is generally not grown commercially there)? And why do Japanese use the characters for pomelo to describe their yuzu? This is all important to discuss instead of/before just removing interwikis from the article. Badagnani 19:47, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Shogakukan's Chinese-Japanese dictionary says Chinese "香橙" means yuzu and "柚子" means pomelo. Shogakukan's Japanese-Chinese dictionary says yuzu is "柚" or "柚子" in Chinese. Sanseido's Daily Concise C-J says Chinese "香橙" means daidai and "柚" means pomelo. Sanseido's J-C says yuzu is "柚" or "柚子" in Chinese. Gakken's kanji dictionary says "柚" now refers to pomelo and Japanese name "yuzu" came from "柚子". Heibonsha World Encyclopedia says Chinese "柚" now refers to pomelo. --163.139.215.193 13:19, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Meld with Bitter Orange

Citrus aurantium is the same thing as yuzu and bitter orange. The two should be combined.--208.0.20.2 18:55, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

• Oppose. Citrus varieties, even within the same species, are often not the same fruit. The yuzu/yuja may be part of the same species but it's a distinct variety with distinct cultural uses. Keep as is. Badagnani 19:00, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, radish and daikon are both Raphanus sativus, but they have different articles. —Keenan Pepper 20:28, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

• Oppose. I cannot find *any* material to suggest that Yuzu is a variety of Citrus aurantium (sour orange) outside of Wikipedia. The classifications I am familiar with are Citrus junos Sieb. ex Tanaka and the opposing view that Yuzu is a mandarin / ichandarin hybrid, Citrus ichangensis x Citrus reticulata var. austera. I would love to know how the "aurantium" originally made it into this article. I have been a citrus hobbyist for years and Yuzu has always been my special focus; it's not something I merely have a passing interest in. The scientific community is behind me - please see the following sources for just four examples of reputable sources for the C junos / C ichangensis hybrid nomenclature.
  • University of California at Riverside Citrus Variety Collection
    Please scroll down to the the entry for "Yuzu".
    http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/kumquats.html
    UCR is the United States' premier source of scholarship on Citrus.
  • University of Melbourne Multilingual Multiscript plant taxonomy resource
    http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Citrus.html
  • Proceedings of the Global Citrus Germplasm Network,
    7-8 December 2000, Appendix 7, Pg. 2, subheading 4
    http://www.lal.ufl.edu/societies/ISC/gcgn/Appendix_7.PDF
  • University of Georgia College of Agricultural and Environmental Sciences
    Extension newsletter: "Timely Tips for the Landscape and Garden", March-April 2002, see article Citrus for the South: Citrus Ichangensis and its Hybrids
    http://pubs.caes.uga.edu/caespubs/horticulture/Tip/MarTT2002.htm
  Even without that, you can look at a yuzu plant next to a sour orange (aurantium) plant and see a glaring range of dissimilarities, far outside what you would ever see within a single species (completely different leaf forms, fruit with completely different shape, size, rind, and seed shape; looking at a yuzu, it's actually very similar to a small, yellow, lumpy mandarin). I'm horrified that C. aurantium has made it this far in the Yuzu entry. I'm removing it preemptively. Unfortunately, I cannot find a naming authority for the C. ichangensis x reticulata nomenclature so that will have to wait for someone else. Sorry if this entry has been a little heated but this is my baby. :-( Krnntp 19:12, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

You can see from the history that "aurantium" first appeared in this edit. Please do change it if all these sources say it's wrong. —Keenan Pepper 19:38, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Done. ...It looks like the bad info came from the Specialty Produce Co. linked page... sigh. Krnntp 18:01, 1 September 2006 (UTC)