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[edit] History

IZAK, I imagine it was you that wrote this. Just a little trivia for you: Rav Hutner's connection with YU actually began in Hebron. Belkin, who was later president of YU, studied with him in the Yeshiva. Also the relationship with Rav Kook was a little more complicated than that. In fact, he may even have gotten smicha (ordination) from him. Danny

Ok, sounds fine to me. I know that he was extremely close with Rav Kook. About Belkin, I'm not sure. I thought Dr. Belkin learnt in Telz and then came over to America, I was unaware that Rabbi Belkin was in Hebron. But that needs to be researched in an entry for Rabbi Belkin himself. IZAK

While it is not a written source, I know that Belkin was my grandfather's roommate in Hebron (and my grandfather did get smicha from Rav Kook at the same time). Danny

Can't argue with your primary source...so you must have a treasure of information about those timesIZAK

The reference to his last years in Israel mention that the Yeshiva hs founded was Pachad Yitzchak. I have heard that when he moved to Israel he co-founded Yeshiva Beis HaTalmud together with R' Schwartzman the ex-son-in-law of R'Aharon Kotler. I was told that the partnership was extremely unsuccfessful. If someone has some more info on this time and could add it to the article, it would enhance the end of his bio and make it sound not so vague.

[edit] Misleading sentence

I removed the following since I don't know the subject and the sentence is easily misinterpreted since it is not gramatically correct. If you know how to fix this, please put it back.

Neither of these two however consider themself as countinuing in Rabbi Hutners path, or that he would approve of there doings.

Mrendo 6 July 2005 18:49 (UTC)

[edit] Rabbi Hutner was Haredi

It seems that User:Nesher seems to think that Rabbi Hutner was not Haredi because he went to university for a brief period as a young student (it was not more than one year according to reliable biographies!) BEFORE he ever imgained that he would be famous at all in any way, or was once close to Rav Kook (who died in the early 1930s -- before the advent of the State of Israel, and again, when Rabbi Hutner was a young yeshiva student), and so he reverts him to Category:Orthodox rabbis. While Rav Hutner certainly had an eclectic backround in his YOUTH, yet he was SUBSEQUENTLY -- many years later-- best known as the rosh yeshiva of the Haredi Yeshiva Rabbi Chaim Berlin for fifty years, and in the last twenty years of his life he was a leading member of the Moetzet Gedolei HaTorah of the Haredi Agudath Israel of America. He then moved to Israel to establish a new Haredi yeshiva in Israel, and was regarded as a Haredi sage by all the other leading Haredi leaders in Israel. It seems that User:Nesher is unaware that in the United States many non-Hasidic Haredim go to college and become professionals AND that they do so, or have done so, when at the same time attending Haredi yeshivas such as Yeshiva Rabbi Chaim Berlin, Yeshiva Torah Vodaas, Yeshiva Ner Yisrael: Ner Israel Rabbinical College and others. This may be unusual to some people's self-annointed "defintions" of what being "Haredi" means, but the heads of these institutions, like Rav Hutner, and their students and graduates are Haredim, whether they remain in the United States or move to Israel. By the way, would anyone say that the Baal Teshuva yeshivas IN ISRAEL Ohr Somayach, Jerusalem and Aish HaTorah are "not Haredi" since almost all the faculty, including its rosh yeshivas and ALL the students previously went to college and/or university in America? Obviously not, since they actually "produce" newly-minted Haredim! Seems that User:Nesher is confusing the attendance of university by Haredim with the members of Modern Orthodoxy who are rightly NOT Haredi because of the centrality of Yeshiva University to them which is an entirely different kettle of fish in comparison to the policies of those Haredi American yeshivas that allow their students to go to college and are even recognized to provide part of the credits towards the secular degrees. This can be a confusing issue but it needn't become a surrogate battleground for other ideological issues that have nothing to do with the Haredi American yeshivas and their leaders who are Haredi and at the same time have a positive attitude to secular education. This is a long subject indeed. IZAK 07:42, 14 June 2006 (UTC)