Talk:Yamamoto Gonnohyōe

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

	This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks.
Start	This article has been rated as Start-Class on the quality scale.
Additional information: This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-Class status: Referencing and citation: not checked Coverage and accuracy: not checked Structure: not checked Grammar: not checked Supporting materials: not checked To fill out this checklist, please add the following to the template call: <!-- 1. It is suitably referenced, and all major points are appropriately cited. --> |B-Class-1=yes/no <!-- 2. It reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain major omissions or inaccuracies. --> |B-Class-2=yes/no <!-- 3. It has a defined structure, including a lead section and one or more sections of content. --> |B-Class-3=yes/no <!-- 4. It is free from major grammatical errors. --> |B-Class-4=yes/no <!-- 5. It contains appropriate supporting materials, such as an infobox, images, or diagrams. --> |B-Class-5=yes/no Related task forces (general topics): Maritime warfare task force Related task forces (nations and regions): Japanese military history task force

	Yamamoto Gonnohyōe is part of WikiProject Japan, a project to improve all Japan-related articles. If you would like to help improve this and other Japan-related articles, please join the project. All interested editors are welcome.
Start	This article has been rated as Start-Class on the quality scale.
Japan To-do: edit purge Improve to Featured status Japan Improve ASIMO Burakumin and Buraku Liberation League Takako Doi Chikamatsu Monzaemon Education in Japan Japanese architecture Japanese art Japanese robotics Japanese strategic planning for the Pacific (1905-1940) List of Emperors of Japan (transl. from ja) Emperor Yozei of Japan List of Japanese artists Namioka, Aomori Nihonjinron Sadako Ogata Ōishi Yoshio Politics of Japan Yagyu Shinkage-ryu Center Shiken (大学入試センター試験) More... Review First Sino-Japanese War Hinduism in Japan Inland Sea Kigo Narihira Santosen Temple Sazae-san Stroke order Heizo Takenaka Giovanni Battista Sidotti Requests See Requested articles Listed for deletion See this page, this page, and this page for lists. Grammar corrections Gaijin Takefuji Need images Every prefecture, see Subdivisions of Japan Sendai - Add demographic images More... Translate from Japanese Wikipedia Iemoto (家元) Blue Ribbon Award (Film) (ブルーリボン賞 (映画)) Gesaku (ja:戯作) More... Transliterations missing for Military ranks and insignia of the Japan Self-Defense Forces Wikify Ibaraki University Ikawa, Shizuoka Ima, Ai ni Yukimasu Japanese sculpture Mori Goro Organization of the Imperial Japanese Central China Army Organization of the Imperial Japanese North China Army Sangaria Shaken Takefuji Vote: Talk:Dokdo#Rename vote Watch this list — Edit this list

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography. For more information, visit the project page.	Biography Portal
Start	This article has been rated as Start-Class on the Project's quality scale. [FAQ] (If you rated the article, please give a short summary at comments to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses.)
	This article is supported by the Military work group.

I have seen the sources which states Gonnohyoe is his name; all Japese sources I've ever known said his name is Gonbe (or Gombei). Would you like to let me know why you decided to name this article Gonnohyoe? If you can't, I think to move it to Yamamoto Gombei later. --Aphaea 09:16, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Although I am a Japanese, the name of Yamamoto Gombei, Yamamoto Gonnohyoue, and Yamamoto Gonbyoue is used for him. Being used generally in Japan is Yamamoto Gonbei.(UTC)

It's Gonbee (ごんべえ), not Gonbei (ごんべい). --Insomniacpuppy 07:46, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gonbee vs. Gonnohyōe

Hi Neier, if you read Hiragana, please check 山本権兵衛.

It's not the matter of kanji pronunciation. It's just his real name vs. nickname. Prince Harry’s real name is Prince Henry and that won't change no matter how one may want to pronounce it. It's the same thing.

Historically 権兵衛 was always pronounced “Gonbee,” but hardly ever “Gonnohyōe.” Yamamoto was in fact just about the only high-profile figure who used that “profoundly-sounding” alternative, which many people back then actually thought was funny.

I know a lot of English references list him as Gonnohyōe Yamamoto, but it’s actually a common mistake.

--Insomniacpuppy 07:46, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. I didn't think to check the ja: wiki. I didn't realize that ごんべえ was a real pronunciation of the kanji and I also misread the reference (I thought Gonbee was the nickname given; not the other way around). Sorry for the extra reversion. Neier 09:34, 23 February 2007 (UTC)