Talk:Yagyū Jūbei Mitsuyoshi
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In pop culture Jubei always wears an eyepatch. Does anyone know if this has historical precedence? --Feitclub 04:01, Oct 16, 2004 (UTC)
- The Japanese Wikipedia states that "He is often portrayed with a patch over one eye; this is said to be because he lost his vision during his youth when, while practicing with his father Munenori, he was hit in the eye with a bokken." Not a definitive answer, unfortunately. Fg2 04:55, Oct 16, 2004 (UTC)
- One of the manga I have states that "there is no definitive proof of how Jubei lost his eye, if indeed he did." It also speculated that it's a holdover from kabuki exaggerations.--Mitsukai 19:08, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] "Lone Wolf and Cub"?
The article contains the sentence, "Yagyu Jubei is also featured in other manga, anime and video games, ranging from the epic work, Lone Wolf and Cub to the modern parody Jubei-chan (where a young girl from modern times becomes the successor to the 300-year-old Yagyu clan)." I'm not familiar with the "epic work" (the book), but in the jidaigeki, it's a different Yagyu, not Jubei. Can anyone confirm whether it's Jubei who appears in the book?
- I haven't read the original manga but I know the guy has two eyes, no eyepatch. Doesn't sound like Yagyu Jubei to me. --Feitclub 20:26, Oct 18, 2004 (UTC)
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- It's supposed to be Jubei. The work just went with the alternative view that Jubei didn't lose his eye. But yes, that's Jubei.--Mitsukai 19:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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- Actually the thing about Lone Wolf and Cub is wrong. The main enemy for Ogami Itto is Yagyu Retsudo, who was Jubei's younger brother. Considering that in the manga Retsudo is a very old man, and Jubei died in his forties, the story would be taking place long after Jubei's death. One of Retsudo's sons, named Yagyu Gunbei fights with Itto. The name of the character is probably a tribute to Jubei, (although the two have very different natures), and also is the source of the confusion on this matter.
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- Retsudo loses his eye about halfway through the series in one of his encounters with the protagonist Lone Wolf and wears an eyepatch for the remainder, but I don't know how much of that is an intentional reference and can't remember from memory if Jubei is ever in the story, except that the entire Yagyu clan is wiped out by the end. -Insomniac By Choice 20:26, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Jubei in Ninja Scroll
I removed the Ninja Scroll Jubei reference because that character is named Jubei Kibegami. DarkSoldier 10:43, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- But it is a clear reference to the character... I will put it back, but state the character was done as a homage. - UnlimitedAccess 14:46, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)