Talk:XennoBB

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Well, think I saw the problem with the first phrase of the description and edited it so that it won't be offensive. Now I see the speedy_deletition thing appeared again. What's the problem? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Osgiliath (talk • contribs).

There's no claim of why this product is notable. dcandeto 15:34, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I'll try and add some more info. I just wanted it to be a simple draft so I can add or remove anytime, but now it seems I'm time pressed by the speedy_deletion thing :) Thanks for your info. Osgiliath

...yet I think "spam" is speedy deletion criterion only if it's a direct copyright violation, and lack of notability if it involves people/groups, not software. Whoever wants this deleted should take it to AfD. Not to say I disagree technically with the deleted articles - they really weren't particularly good and not much better than commercial spam anyway. This version is better. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 23:37, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Cleanup 2 Just a Reminder 3 Controversy 4 Website offline

[edit] Cleanup

OK, this is much better than the previous versions. However, this needs to be, shall we say, dulled. Ex.: "It is very fast, stable, secure, and modern" is ad material. "The developers have stated speed, stability, security and state-of-the-art features as the design goals (source link)" is not. Another example: "Its modular design allows you to plug in third-party modules or plugins into your forum." Er, no, Wikipedia articles have no authors, but no readers, either, so we can't use "you". =) "The application has been designed in modular fashion blah blah blah." This sort of stuff. Would fix it myself but it's 2:30 in the morning here and I tend to mess things up if I get into too serious stuff.

Remember, stick to solid facts that can be demonstrated, and especially solid facts that matter. I hate "easy to use" or "easy to install" kind of claims unless there's either actual usability testing or if it has actually been widely praised/criticised to that effect (for example, Blender UI). Plus usability is such an ordinary thing that it hardly warrants a mention; stick to actual features. I mean, people use the applications all the time. Stick to what people do with them. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 23:37, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I've cleaned up some of this, but it still needs some work --MutantMonkey 04:04, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

This has already been cleaned FLCLFan 00:40, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I think what he is trying to say is for you to stop removing "based on punbb" it is based of punBB and it's on xennoBB About page. --David Gonzalez 01:54, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Please stay in your own backyard. MutantMonkey was neutral enough (even if he is developing another forum), but you are way off. XennoBB is based on PunBB, nobody denied that, it's in the docs, forum, everywhere, so stop causing trouble. If it was removed, it was a mistake, fixed promptly by MutantMonkey. Let's stop the discussion here, shall we? -- Osgiliath 18:39, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry i thought he was the one reversing around and got mixed up, my mistake this time, though i did sound accusing, must be my bad habits--David Gonzalez 21:06, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Just a Reminder

If you update the version number or you are adding new features on the XennoBB Page don't forget to also update it on the Comparison of Internet forum software page. FLCLFan 22:47, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Noted - Osgiliath 20:31, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Controversy

I removed the "Controversy" part of the article since it violates Wiki:NPA (No Personal Attacks). The "controversy" is just a forum article, which doensn't count as a "quotable" source. This article is not about Marius Stanciu, is about XennoBB. I fail to see the connection between XennoBB and the so-called "Revo Forum". If you have a problem, please take it to a Wikipedia Admin. Also, looks as this article is prone to vandalism, I suggest the maintainer of this article to contact an admin regardin a possible edit lock. - Lexington Warner 15:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Why not keeping the second part from this ? About copyright and "Forum insider" as it talks about XennoBB and no more about "Stanciu" (aka Osgiliath here if I don't do mistakes) Draky 16:49, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I wasn't able to find anything on ForumInsider regarding this matter. Even more, searching for the "starter" of that comment, on Google, gives some results about him being part of MyBB forum developers. Posting such content on another forum page would violate the "fairness" rule, and even thought this is not an "official" Wikipedia rule, I suggest people involved in other projects should refrain from posting such comments. If there is a legal matter involving XennoBB and MyBB or PunBB, I'm sure that the copyright owners can take whatever measure they find appropriate, without the need to turn Wikipedia into a trash can. The talk page is the talk page, but the content posted on the actual acticle must be verifiable, from an acurate source and above all, must not violate any WP rules. - Lexington Warner | Talk 22:21, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

DrPoodle you seem to have a problem understanding the situation. It's the third time you vandalise this article. I understand your situation, as you're trying to promote your own software, but your continued violation of every Wikipedia rule I can think of will make me request a temporary lock of your account, if you continue with this. I'm sure that a forum or blog post does not count as "quotable" material. Do I need to repeat myself over and over again? Please stop whatever you're doing. Thank you. - Lexington Warner | Talk 22:37, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

This script is just a compilation of punBB + mods + puntal script etc... Except that it does not include copyrights, violating the GPL Licence.
More explanations in french : http://www.forx.fr/post/2006/09/18/XennoBB-ou-le-viol-de-la-GPL And the thoughs of Osgiliath about GPL : http://72.14.221.104/search?q=cache:npUg4pT_3VMJ:blog.xennobb.com/articles/end-of-the-crappy-people-story+end+crappy+people&hl=fr&gl=fr&ct=clnk&cd=1 (Google cache because the author deleted his article)
By the way, a little explanation in english : http://www.usebb.net/community/topic-1252.html
Draky 11:53, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

You better have something better than the grudge of a "competition" developer. My opinions are my opinions, and I am responsable for them, unlike you who post hiding behind the Internet's annonimity. GPL is not the only license; and my blog is not removed, it's in the process of upgrading to another software, but who are you to question me about what software should I use for my blog?I highly suggest the prior comment to be removed, since it's not the truth. Anyone can trash anybody's name on Wikipedia today? -Osgiliath

I told you post about GPL have been removed, not your blog. Please buy glasses before reading :) Next, I'm not anonymous and can provide informations about me to anyone who want them... And last but not least, my comment is about the fact that you tell everyone that XennoBB is your's as it is only a compilation of punBB and mods for it, including one from the blog's owner i'm directing people to (Forx.fr).

And as WP is a little democratic, my comment is as welcome as your lies are :) Draky 14:50, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

It's a little difference between democratic and full of ####. Anyway, please keep your junk off the XennoBB page. Also, if we're getting so friendly, please buy an English grammer book next time you want to do some posting, I cannot understand what you want to say. You want money? Or what? - Osgiliath 18:50, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes Master ! Please fogive me for telling people you're piece of #### is violating the GPL... and go continue foulng people... My comment is here and people can decide by themselves if your "work" needs attention... Bye liar... Draky 00:47, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

A simple search on Google shows no result on the first 5 pages for "your software". I didn't have the patience to search more. Even more, a simple whois on the domain, shows that it has been registered in October 2006. What's about that, registering a domain and creating a software from XennoBB and telling people is the other way around? Smart boy. As for the posting a comment and run, I'm gonna post a comment on your profile page that you're a pedophile, and people can decide for themselves if it's true or not. I'm really sorry people like you exist, but it's one of the "wonders" of the Internet. I'm gonna "fogve" you and continue "foulng" people (it's a rhetorical answer, by the way, don't take it literal) :) What age are you, 12? Hopefully, you will have a long but sterile life. Goodbye! - Osgiliath 08:35, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

hey ! puntal.fr domain was register in october 2006 but first puntal was release in may 2005 so what ? just look at this : http://foxmask.info/puntal-1.8.1-xennobb-3RC1.html After that you will say that it is Puntal which copies XennoBB?! would be necessary to be serious a little! Look at all the sites which use puntal and this since how long : http://www.google.com/search?q=propuls%C3%A9+par+puntal and note the copyright: 2005-2006 Then why now you do not recognize the truth? Why do you persist in your lie? You know very well that you copied Puntal. Then it would be necessary to grow a little bit in your head, stops making the child who denies whereas one has just caught red-handed it.

[edit] Website offline

The project's website at [1] has been offline since late December 2006 (showing a "site in construction" notice in Romanian). Seen the past problems with licensing and copyrights, I assume this project was discontinued without notice some time ago. I also noticed a previous vote for removal of this article, but was removed.

The external link was removed and a small notice was added to the page. Other content remains intact (for now). Suggestions are welcome. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DietrichM (talk • contribs) 17:38, 13 January 2007 (UTC).

Due to instability within the Xenno Team, caused by 'OS', the project has been dissolved, 'OS' is giving away illegal versions of this projects old software(due to copyright violations) and a brand new illegal version of XennoBB that is not supported by the Copyright holder. 199.126.1.203 23:56, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I reverted the edit you made since it doesn't fit in an article. I know about the history of XennoBB myself, though less about whether the project has been closed down permanently or not. Therefore I hesitate whether this article should be altered to emphasize the project has quit or remove it at once. I also would like to ask Lexington Warner to not just remove or alter discussions on the talk page or delete requests for removal without discussing this here first. Thanks. --DietrichM 13:44, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

If you have a problem with my style of editing, then I cannot do much about it. Although it seems as if you're adding quite a bit of "trash" to this article page, DietrichM. I did some digging and it seems as if you're the author of UseBB (correct me if I'm wrong). You should respect the WP neutrality rule; I'm sure nobody from SMF is editing the UseBB article right? Try to learn something from it. - Lexington Warner | Talk 11:33, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

First, there is not a single amount of "trash" added to this page, in the contrary, a discussion was started about this article instead of just removing contents without a notice (exactly what you did). Second, there is nothing wrong with editing other articles other than your own. If you have a problem with me and my free-time activities, please take your concern to an administrator. Now, can we remain ontopic? The website is back, so far so good. "Thank you" for your help. --DietrichM 01:29, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

It's now April, and it was taken offline December. That is like four months. This article needs to reflect that, and possibly just delete this article, as it is no longer needed for a project that was lost. BlackxxJapan 13:14, 9 April 2007 (UTC)