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[edit] Welcome

Welcome!

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[edit] Anthropology of Asiaphilia

This is the German anthropology professor.You rearranged the anthropology section very well.Thank you very much, Wzhoa553.I did some minor changes to have it 100% scientifically correct.You know now that I contributed valuable information. Let us do some anthropological stuff together, e.g. we could rewrite the virago article with a classical anthropology section.It was censored and deleted by anthropology professor Steve Rubenstein and his helpers(Athens,Ohio).He was called the leader of a "cabal" of about ten users censoring anthropological and Jewish-related articles.I hope you join me there and you will soon recognize that he behaved incorrectly and ideological.Now the "Asian fetish" article is first class and unique on the net and I think unique in the whole censored anthropological literature.Well-done. Could you tell me please on this page if you like to join me on the virago article, then I give you more information about the anthropological virago (type A and type B) and its racial and historic implications (e.g. Babylonian salzikrum concept in the Codex Hammurapi 1700 B.C. or the earliest women pharaohs 3000 B.C. (Neithhotep) or a unique analysis of Elizabeth Bathory, the "blood countess". Prof. Rubenstein fears these matters so much that he deleted the whole article with his helpers (if you like you can image-google ""Steve Rubenstein"+Ohio" to see a photo of him). I can give you literature that claim the Europid virago is critical in the rise of feminism. As a curiosity of science, I would like to inform you about the myth of the "Red Jews" and their collaboration with the "amazons"(1200 C.E. onwards).I have spend more than 50 years with more less intense study of these phenomenon. I hope I hear from you soon.Maybe you are interested in some exclusive information about my work in the Ahnenerbe,too (which had also an appearance in film in the Indiana Jones trilogy as I have seen by chance on TV yesterday). Yours,Karl

Thank you for the response. If there is a further opportunity for me to study classical anthropology, then I will take it, but since I am not an anthropologist by training, as for now, I will concentrate on working in other areas on Wikipedia. --Wzhao553 02:22, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Hello, Wzhao533.Please be aware that "Mongolid" means Asian races, "Mongoloid" means "similar to the Asian races" and "Mongoliform "having some characteristic features of the Asian races" according to Eickstedt's Trivialnamen. I would suggest to change again "Mongoloid" and "Palaemongoloid", becuase it is incorrect.One could label some Alpinids as Palaemongoloid, too.Unfortunately , the wiki article on Mongoloid is misleading.Yours, Karl.

[edit] Minor edits

This isn't any criticism because I've made the same mistake. I put a note into the history of Asian fetish that your edit wasn't minor, just to let people who have it in their watchlist, but block minor edits, would know about it. The criteria of what is a minor edit is actually surprisingly narrow. The guideline is at Wikipedia:Minor edit.--ThreeAnswers 05:20, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Rubenstein group has just started to destroy our anthropology section !

Hello Wzhao533, please help me in the "Asian fetish" article. The Rubenstein group (around the Jewish Boasian Prof.Steve Rubenstein, Athens, Ohio)has just started to destroy our anthropological section totally.Now you can see how destructive those thugs are who are even denying my existence and biography!Yours, Karl

Please refer to discussion page of the article for my explaination of what I have done. I object to this person's characterization of me as part of a "Rubenstein group." I acted entirely alone and am part of no group. This anon has characterized anyone who disagrees with what he is doing as "deputys" of Slrubenstein. In reality, Slrubenstein was simply the first to catch on to what he is up to. I and many others had similar problems with his edits on Virago (see discussion page of that article). I've done some editing of Asian fetish based on Wikipedia policy, particularly Wikipedia: Neutral point of view and Wikipedia: No original research. I've also left a note for Slrubenstein to alert him to what has been happening to the Asian fetish article. As a serious editor of the article, I hope you will assist with this to keep the article encyclopedic. Sunray 21:10, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

You cancelled a whole section which is well-supported by major scientists! You are a liar, nothing but a liar!Rubenstein is your friend and you stick to the "cabal" described on silsor's page.80.138.174.234 21:52, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, Wzhao533, that you helped me again in my lonely fight against the manipulation of science. The Rubenstein group and all the other thugs can only win if they can finally manipulate the symbolic representation of reality irreversibly.Yours,Karl.

Could you help again,please,I have added detailed references to the "biological anthropology" section but Sunray has destroyed everything again.Yours,Karl.80.138.134.141 16:51, 29 January 2006 (UTC)


Ok, I tried googling some of the topics that this Karl user is suggesting and guess what kind of links I found? Links to racist white supermacist sites such as Stormfront. It appears that the "Asian Fetish" article is under a coordinated attack by white supremacists. Given this lunatic's claims of "Jewish Conspiracy" and "cabals", I have half a mind to delete the entire anthropology section completely. Someonewho misrepresents themselves and misstates their intentions can only be assumed to have malicious intentions.OneViewHere 00:26, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Give me until Thursday to edit it. If it doesn't look like I'm making any progress on it by then, I would encourage you to delete the section as soon as possible. --Wzhao553 00:34, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

But as it is good pertinent science, I will never stop to restore it. Who is not for me, is against me.I will never stop..

[edit] Reasonable approach

I appreciate the reasonable approach you are taking (both at Talk: Asian fetish and here). That will go a long way towards improving the article in the long run, IMO. I had a question about your recent comments on the AF talk page (18:46, 31 January 2006 (UTC)). Because it appears directly below a comment by the man who "will never stop," it may be seen as responding to him. However, your comments seem to relate to mine on folk anthropology. If that is true, shouldn't we move your comment up to directly under mine? Sunray 00:21, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, they should be in order of timestamps. --Wzhao553 00:43, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Polls

Thanks for organizing this poll. In my experience it is a good way to deal with disputes. I've added a note on the groundrules for conducting polls below yours on the AF talk page. You are likely familiar with the method of counting, however, I could assist if you like. Sunray 18:49, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletions on Talk Pages

With respect, I would ask that you revert your deletions of comments from the page Talk:Asian fetish. I think it may be entirely appropriate to refactor comments, e.g. onto an archive page, but outright deletion is an extreme violation of WP etiquette. I assume this was simply an error on your part, and look forward to its repair. -- Gnetwerker 00:55, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

As an addendum, I will point out that all WP votes allow for comments. It really is inappropriate to delete them, even in the spirit of "cleaning up". One person's cleaning is another's censorship, and I am sure you don't want a Talk Page war on your hands. -- Gnetwerker 01:02, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
You wrote Nevertheless, if you would like to revert the deletions, we only ask that you first read Talk:Asian_fetish/Archive_5 first. -- I have done so. I don't wish to get involved in the discussion of the subject of the page, about which I have no expertise. The issue of sock-puppetry in the voting is not present in Archive_5. -- Gnetwerker 01:08, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

A talk page is for discussing the article, not just for discussing the deletion of sections of the article. Why did you archive my new comments? What was the meaning of that action? 金 (Kim) 17:01, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Asian fetish Voting

What are your plans for closing the voting on that page? My idiosyncratic and unofficial count is 7 keep, 10 delete for the Phys Anthro section (ignoring multiple votes from the same German ISP), and 6 keep, 15 delete for the Testosterone section. -- Gnetwerker 00:33, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

OK, I will look into it. I have an admin in mind who I think will be impartial. Sunray 06:39, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please Wzhao, could you judge now as you have the right

No, it is 8 to 11 as stated by Wzhao.Please Wzhao, could you judge now as you have the right, you have a neutral standpoint as you just want to have it enclosed as the basics for colonial thinking.Despite of that, it is good science, but we of course present it only as "one line of reasoning".Maybe we should keep the old section with the German quotes and create a new on criticism.If the criticism is interwoven , the anthropological thought cannot be unfolded without interruption.80.138.166.174 17:32, 12 February 2006 (UTC)


[edit] A 2/3 majority for deletion of anthro-sec was not reached .If this is not accepted, I will not stop opposing this violation of wiki standards!

80.138.194.229 00:06, 14 February 2006 (UTC) Wzhao533, what about our good initial cooperation on the anthro section ? As you have the right to judge, please judge in favor of our good section.It is good science and an internet premiere.80.138.194.229 00:10, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 3rr on Asian fetish

I've blocked you [1] for WP:3RR on Asian fetish. Please discuss this here, if you wish to William M. Connolley 17:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC).

Respectfully, because you seem like a very respectable administrator, may I take the opportunity here to ask you what should be done in the case of NPOV disputes when it centers around "Anglo-American focus"? Specifically, I refer to the statement found in Npov#Anglo-American_focus which states:
Wikipedia seems to have an Anglo-American focus. Is this contrary to the neutral point of view?
What should be done with articles which are about subjects discussed primarily by an ethnic minority? The article on Asian fetish is an article on a term that was coined and is used by Asian American writers, to describe a form of racism which Asian Americans believe that they feel. In editing the article, I have assumed an Asian American POV, and cited Asian American and other ethnic studies academics in published journals and books. Is not the suppression of this minority viewpoint a form of systematic bias and a violation of NPOV? --Wzhao553 18:59, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
You need to try to discuss it on the talk page. If that doesn't bring out any consensus, then you need to try to bring in a wider audience: the best way of doing this is probably to list an article WP:RFC; possibly add a message (neutrally) describing the controvery on talk pages of (a few) related articles likely to have editors who are interested William M. Connolley 19:34, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello Wzhao533, this is Karl again

Now some German leftist has labeled our anthro section as "Neo-Nazi" (NB his false English with the capital "N"). Of course , as you can see from your being blocked maintaning the Asian minority view recently, the leftist mob is getting more and more silly in their self-contradictions (gnetwerker e.g., you informed me about it). Wish you all the best. Let us never allow that decadence to control the wikipedia!80.138.192.222 21:02, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 3rr removed

I removed your 3rr report. It only had 3 reverts. You need 4. William M. Connolley 19:13, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your POV Vandalism

Don't you find it interesting that the POV you push at Asian fetish so closely matches that of your white supremacist friend above? Anyone claiming to be anti-racist and having any integrity at all would ask himself why. You won't, of course, because you're always right and everyone else is always wrong. And besides, you OWN the article, don't you? That's what allows you to post opinions sourced by opinion articles, and to shout down everyone else.

Intolerance, belligerence, arrogance, double-standards, and everything else you have shown me at this article, are ugly and wrong no matter what side they come from. Not just when they come from WHITE supremacists. Thanks in no small part to you, Asian fetish, the article you think you own, casts doubt on the quality of Wikipedia. Natsume Soseki 04:22, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Be sure to congratulate the Fighting 44s on another hollow victory for me, Wzhao553. You can tilt Wikipedia to your POV by using opinion pieces, and you can prevent balancing POVs from doing the exact same thing. That must be some small consolation prize for you. Because, fortunately for the rest of us, in the real world people like you, like your white racist brothers who supported the Anti-miscegenation_laws a generation ago, are on the losing side of history. Natsume Soseki 13:42, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Can do. See the thread as it develops: http://www.thefighting44s.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?p=91503#91503 --Wzhao553 18:50, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks and Answer

Hey Wzhao, thanks for the welcome. The article's incomplete, as most of my additions came from a secondary source (the Goddard book in the bibliography) and its own footnotes. However, according to J. Kritzneck, "Robert of Ketton's Translation of the Qur'an," Islamic Quarterly 2(1955), the Latin translation commissioned by Peter was undertaken by Robert. I haven't heard of Peter of Toledo...perhaps you are thinking of Mark of Toledo? He also translated the Qur'an into Latin. And I think the title of Robert's work was Lex Mahumet pseudoprophete, not Alkoran vel Alkyren. I'm unfamiliar with Mark, but I bet the relevant info is in Thomas E. Burman, "Tafsir and Translation: Traditional Arabic Quran Exegesis and the Latin Qurans of Robert of Ketton and Mark of Toledo," Speculum 73, 3 (July 1998). I'll fix the article up and add the note you provided. Thanks again. -- PetertheVenerable 17:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lex_Mahumet_pseudoprophete

Hi, you added some text to this article... can you give the source for the text changed in this edit? I have tried to make sure that article stays well sourced so if you have the full citation or online link that would be very useful. gren グレン 00:30, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: your message on my talk page about Asian fetish

Sorry for not getting back to you; I've been very busy lately and will be for about the next two weeks. Also I'm somewhat of a party in an arbitration case that may open soon, so I won't have a lot of time to pay attention to the Asian fetish page. I'll try to check up on it every now and then and see how things are going there. Thanks for bringing that issue to my attention. --Idont Havaname (Talk) 22:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Asian American contemporary issues

I highly recommend using African American contemporary issues as a guide to this article's expansion. And I think it would eventually be quite useful to have something like Media representations of Asian Americans.--ThreeAnswers 06:26, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Cataloguing by nationality

If "British mathematicians" were to be used exclusively as a category cataloguing mathematicians that happened to be British (according to X or Y), then I would vote strongly against the existence of such a category. If the category "British mathematicians" has any value (something I am not convinced of), it derives from the fact that styles of mathematics tend to clump geographically, and that any mathematician working in Britain tends to be catalogued as a British mathematician, regardless of "actual" nationality (in her eyes or somebody else's). There isn't any parallel with the current attempt to catalogue mathematicians according to somebody's quasi-racial scheme. (Whose and what scheme it is - that is something I do not know; do you?) Hasdrubal 23:58, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

Hi Wzhao,

>Geometry is often called "Greek geometry" by historians because of the efforts of Ancient Greek >mathematicians. The numeral system we use today is called the Arabic numeral system because it was >developed by Islamic mathematicians. And Alan Turing should be considered an important British >mathematician, in part because he helped in Bletchley Park's codebreaking effort during World War II.

None of these are examples of the cultural self-identification of the mathematicians cited. (Incidentally, I don't believe that is the criterion currently being used for the categories.) Rather, you are mentioning examples of mathematical communities defined by geography and language of communication. "Greek geometry" is the geometry done by Greek speakers; it includes the work of mathematicians in the Hellenistic world. "Islamic mathematics" includes non-Muslims (see the page); it's just a name for the mathematics developed in a certain place at a certain time. As for Alan Turing - people who were not British citizens also contributed to the British war effort (and, if I am not mistaken, people who were not British citizens are listed as British mathematicians, on the grounds of their living in the UK.) Hasdrubal 01:00, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi Wzhao,

I think we more or less agree. However, if British mathematicians comes up for a vote, I shall vote to rename it Mathematicians working in Britain or Mathematicians working in British academia. When mathematicians speak, we mean no. 2 or no. 3 when we say no. 1; still, outsiders could be misled, and the category could be subject to what I would see as a misuse (namely, an attempt to classify mathematicians by passport or by kinship with Fair Albion or what have you). Hasdrubal 05:40, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sex crimes against Asian women

So it looks like the article is about to be deleted. I have saved the text here - User:HongQiGong/Sex_crimes_against_Asian_women. I think it would be good to add the contrasting statements from the USDOJ and Yale Daily News to the Asian Fetish article, and also to add the sources on the article to the Asian Fetish article. But I don't agree with adding the list to the article as it could grow to be a very long list. Instead, I'd rather write short articles out of each of those cases and make a Category for them. What do you think? Hong Qi Gong 06:43, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Wikipedia:Harassment

It may be pretty hard to just delete revisions of the talk page, since I'd probably also have to delete any revisions containing remarks from users other than Logoi. I've let Logoi know that you have a problem with what he's been doing and have warned him that he may be blocked if he keeps doing it. I have his talk page, and yours, on my watchlist now so that I can check for any future problems.

I've just posted about this to the administrators' noticeboard, WP:AN/I. Please keep that page on your watchlist for a few days; some other admins may reply to my post there.

For now, you might also want to move your blog temporarily to another site with a different alias, or make it more anonymous in some way. --Idont Havaname (Talk) 17:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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