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[edit] Axe ties

Hi Wrecksdale - this article needs some more context. So far, you've got one Mediterranean tree (Cedar), and two Canadian trees (Tamarack Larch and Jack Pine), cited as being used. What is the area context of the article about? What about usage, if any, in other regions? - MPF 09:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Minor Edits

Remember to mark your edits as minor only when they genuinely are (see Wikipedia:Minor edit). "The rule of thumb is that an edit of a page that is spelling corrections, formatting, and minor rearranging of text should be flagged as a 'minor edit'." Tuspm Talk | Contribs | E-Mail Me 16:29, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dysart et al, Ontario

Hi, I was wondering why you named the article this way. According to StatsCan, the township is called Dysart and Others, whereas according to Ontario GeoNames, it's called Dysart. I'm not sure which one is correct, but I don't think the current title is. Any ideas? Mindmatrix 23:51, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

OK - that was a lot of info...let's see if I can address some of your concerns. First, Wikipedia has defined some guidelines regarding article names. For North American geography (physical and political), the standard is: Lake of Bays, Ontario for a community, township etc., and Lake of Bays (Ontario) for the body of water. If more than one such location exists, then you'd disambiguate as necessary, such as Pine Grove, Ontario. We generally avoid using Township in article names, so that we have King, Ontario, not King Township, Ontario; I suppose we could create a redirect from the latter to the former, though. You can find much more gory details about naming conventions in general, or specifically for places. By the way, I'll undo the move of Lake of Bays. You can point users to the lake by using a disambiguating message at the top of the article - I'll do that too.
As far as Dysart is concerned - no problem; I know et al means and others, but we usually try to use names that are defined by a naming authority in Canada. Since the municipality seems to be using the name as you reference it, that seems OK, though we'd really prefer if GeoNames, the Atlas of Canada or StatsCan used the name too. I'll create a redirect from the other name, for now. Mindmatrix 14:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Regarding the Lake of Bays comment above, if there's no such other lake in the world, it can be named Lake of Bays without any qualifier. Regarding page moves - if you do move a page, click on the check link that's provided afterwards to update links to that page; it keeps everything tidy. Finally, when you leave a message on a talk page (user or article), please sign it using four tildes ~~~~ at the very end of the message. The software substitutes the tildes with your user name and a timestamp. By the way, thanks for your contributions! Mindmatrix 14:16, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Grant History

Thanks for adding the notes on Grant and the tweak to Nakina - nice to see someone else adding a bit of content there too!

[edit] Armstrong, Ontario

I've split the Armstrong article in two: Armstrong, Ontario, the township, and Armstrong, Thunder Bay District, Ontario the community. In general, if two places have the same name, try disambiguating them by working down the divisional hierarchy (province -> census subdivision [district/region etc] -> municipal unit [city/town/township etc.]) The example for Pine Grove, Ontario that I mentioned previously is a good example of this. For now, I've left the main Armstrong, Ontario article as it was, but a case could be made to convert it to a disambiguation page like that of Pine Grove. Mindmatrix 18:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Huntsville company names

Actually I have the book and have read it (no need to be insulting). In the book there are actually four companies mentioned. The Huntsville and Lake of Bays Transportation Company chartered in 1895 initially didn't mention anything about building a railway. However it did operate seven steamboats in the first five years of operation. In 1900 the company name was changed to The Huntsville and Lake of Bays Navigation Company and a separate charter was obtained (the original charter didn't expire) to build a railway under the name The Huntsville and Lake of Bays Railway Company. In 1902 the company reorganized and changed its name again to The Huntsville, Lake of Bays, and Lake Simcoe Navigation Company Limited. The book isn't clear whether the original charters expired or were grandfathered. MacKay refers to the company as just the Navigation Company after the first page.

I figured that all this name changing would be confusing to someone who hadn't read the book so I just summarized it under the original name. So technically speaking, your changes aren't accurate. So it might help if you read the book, too. Atrian 14:17, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, so maybe you don't need to read the book. It looks like you have a lot of hands on experience. I am looking to expand the article a little bit, I have just added a table of the steamboats used. Maybe you could do something similar with the trains. Also I think it would benefit the article if a picture of one of the trains were added. The picture on the front of the book would be good if you can get it. Any help would be appreciated. --Atrian 14:43, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Huntsville

Regardless if the company Huntsville and Lake of Bays Transportation Company expired or not, it was a different company formed in 1902 that built the Huntsville and Lake of Bays Railway which did not begin actual operations until 1904. I never had the chance to ride the original railway at Lake of Bays (Ontatio). Having a long time interest in railways and steamboats, I had only heard of the railway about 1969. From 1971 I was a volunteer on the Segwun Steamboat Museum. In 1972 I met Niall MacKay, who knew a lot about the railway. At that time he was collecting information for his book "By Steam Boat And Steam Train." I have been good friends with him ever since, and his brother and mom and dad too. In 1984 I was living in Parry Sound, Ontario and working as a Railroad car mechanic for North America's best Railway, at South Parry and Huntsville, Ontario, when we formed the Huntsville & Lake of Bays Railway Society. I am Life Member # 6. That same year I drove to Pioneer Village (Nebraska) at Minden, Nebraska where I met with Harold Warp and presented to him a copy of Mr. MacKay's book (at my expense). Until then there was nothing in the museum to suggest that the H. K. Porter, Inc locomotives came from Lake of Bays. Meanwhile back at Huntsville, I designed the front of the gasoline locomotive, and purchased, re-gaged and restored the Handcar. I also suggested the use of retired Excavator machinery for the base of the turntables now in use at the railway in Huntsville.Wrecksdale Wreck 01:19, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Madawascka

There is no "Madawasca-with-a-C" anywhere in Ontario. Would you like to know where the Lake Victoria that James Janderson cited is actually located? Ten minutes away from Bark Lake, up "Victoria and McCauley Lake Road" from Madawaska-with-a-K. Bearcat 05:09, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Um, maybe because you can only do one thing at a time? It was either fix the spelling first and then move the article to the correct title, or move the article to the correct title first and then fix the spelling. Neither way somehow makes me wrong or stupid. Bearcat 05:26, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Boat or Ship?

I reworked the article to improve readability. I changed the boldface to italics for the additional company names. This is in accordance with Wikipedia guidelines to use boldface for the article name only. I tend to use steamship and steamboat interchangeably however I suspect that there is a subtle difference. Which one is appropriate for this article? Atrian 14:03, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nosbonsing & Npissing Railway

You may know (now) that blanking a page doesn't delete it. I suggest you check out Wikipedia:Speedy_deletions#Requesting_speedy_deletion. While you don't quite match the {{db-author}} criteria, because one additional author, myself, has changed the page, I'll make it clear on the help page that I don't object. If you have trouble with the process, let me know. (John User:Jwy talk) 00:24, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

As someone else had started editing the page, I put your explanation into the talk page and added the tag. As you can see by the red heading above, its gone! (John User:Jwy talk) 15:25, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] North Channel

I've discussed this with other users previously, who have confirmed that the North Channel is, geographically speaking, considered an extension of Georgian Bay rather than a distinct part of Lake Huron. While it's true that nobody would ever say "Georgian Bay" in reference to the body of water that Blind River or Gore Bay or Thessalon is located on, hydrologically the channel is an extension of Georgian Bay. I'm just not convinced that there's anything particularly encyclopedic about the North Channel as a separate article, rather than as a part of the Georgian Bay and/or Lake Huron articles. If you think there is, you're free to give it a shot anytime you want — but I personally don't there's all that much that can be said about it as a distinct topic. Bearcat 04:33, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wilberforce, Ontario

Thanks for the input. Just FYI, though, please don't put any discussion about the content of the page onto the page itself - just use the talk page, and feel free to correct any errors (preferably with sources). Patstuarttalk|edits 04:27, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

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