Talk:World heavyweight championship

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The ROH title does have World title status, I think. I don't think it should since they don't even have a TV deal. Also, the WWA Title had world title status, and the AWA title was revived in 1996 but didn't get world title status until 2005 when it started being promoted by ZERO-ONE. TJ Spyke 22:29, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ROH World Championship status

From the article, describing the ROH World Heavyweight Championship:

claimed world title status after belt was defended outside of the United States by champion Samoa Joe. However this is under dispute because the championship was defended in matches where there was no chance of it changing hands.

Could somebody explain this? Technically speaking, anytime a challenger is booked to lose a match, there is "no chance" of a title changing hands. Does it just mean that there was no reason for anybody to believe Samoa Joe would drop the title in any of those matches? Jeff Silvers 11:09, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

It seems to be the words of someone who doesn't want to accept that PWI recognizes the ROH Title as a World Title. I assume your interpretation of the phrase is correct, but the requirement is that the belt be "defended" overseas, not that it has to change hands overseas... Joe could have won a squash match with the title on the line and it still would count. Clint 05:06, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I don't remember PWI ever saying that the ROH title gained World Title status, that just something ROH fans started saying. TJ Spyke 06:18, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I am confused the NWA Title is supposed to be a link from the Gotch 1908 belt and the Georg 1905 belt but is the 1905 and 1908 titles linked or what because i am confused. The second point is there is a forty year spell from 1908 to the formation of the NWA. Is there a page which shows the title history between these two points?

Consider who's graced PWI's cover 81 times. I doubt they have much interest in the indies, although I will admit that I've never actually read the magazine. Tromboneguy0186 06:55, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wrestlers who win heavyweight titles

If a wrestler wins a championship as a "Heavyweight" championship and not a "World" championship, but that championship eventually gains world championship status (i.e. jeff jarrett winning the NWA title in 2005 when it was not a 'recognized' world championship, does that make that credit that wrestler a World championship, even though it dident have world title status? and if someone has the answer to that question would it be possible to incorporate it into the article?

In my opinion no, reigns during the period where it didn't have world status shouldn't be considered World title reigns, but the whole thing is upto PWI on that matter, personally I feel the whole thing of PWI being an unbiased judge for World titles to be really out there considering they're so dedicated towards the mainstreams and writing in kayfabe. TonyFreakinAlmeida 04:54, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

It depends on the belt. PWI originally didn't consider wrestlers that won the WWF Championship between 1973 and 1983 (when it lost world title status) as champions, but last year decided to give them world title status. Wrestlers who won the ECW Championship before August 1999 are not considered world champs though. TJ Spyke 06:15, 9 February 2007 (UTC)