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[edit] Chinese religions
Just a minor note... "Chinese Religion" should read "Chinese religions". --195.33.105.17 10:45, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- See the German original of the map. There is no "Chinese religion". "Chinese religions" is a term chosen to include Chinese folk religion, ancestor worship, Taoism, Confucianism, and many other religions found in China, which are difficult to separate and to measure as a) they often overlap and b) there are no good statistics. Can someone please correct it and add the 's'? --195.33.105.17 08:42, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Secular, athiest or non-religious
This image is incorrect, the dominant religion of the Netherlands is secular (42% unaffiliated with any religion). --metta, The Sunborn 21:05, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
When we painted it, we decided that "secular" is not a religion and shouldn't be displayed on a map of religions (compare discussions on the German page). If there was a country with only one single person having a religion, it would be painted in the colour of his religion. Of course, you may feel free to do it differently in the English version. In this case, you shouldn't forget China, North Korea and the Czech Republic, where more than half of the population are secular or atheist. 134.76.62.65 06:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Then you should say explicitly in the image that those who do not subscribe to a religion are not included, Otherwise, i challenge the veracity of this image. -Lordsuhn
- Unfortunately, the image is tagged incorrect when it's clearly disputed, I changed the tag to NPOV to reflect the nature of the dispute.
- I find it amusing to have a secular advocate looking to put secularism as a valid faith. In the US, this is avoided like the plague because if secularism is a religious faith, it tremendously disadvantages it under US law. I guess somebody didn't get the memo.
- TMLutas 21:50, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
While many Europeans in the Netherlands may not go to church, Holland is still a predominantly Christian country--but one which recognizes the separation of church and state. So, it should be classified as Protestant. I have 2 minor objections to the map: 1) Wikipedia entirely excludes Sikhism which is predominant in the Indian province of Punjab and 2) Southern Sudan should be coloured as either Christian or Animist. It is definitely not Muslim as there was a 20 year long bitter civil war there between its inhabitants and the government in the Muslim Arab controlled Sudanese state which ended in a 2005 peace agreement. Southern Sudan might become an independent country if a promised referendum on independence is carried out there in 5 to 6 years time, as stipulated by the agreement. --Leoboudv 05:29, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Great work on this map! I found it very informative however I would have to agree with those who propose "non-religious" as a category of representation. If the majority of a population is atheist or agnostic it is misleading to classify them as Buddhist, Christian, Muslim or other. If a population was near 50% religious and 50% atheist or other religion I would propose that diagonal lines through a country with both colors would be more accurate, less misleading and feasible.--SAUNDERS 01:14, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
This really should not ignore "no religion". Secularism is not a faith, but the map should reflect where people do not have a faith - perhaps use white as the representation, since the different colours are different faiths, a lack of faith should be represented by a lack of colour, giving white. Sad mouse 17:29, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Saudi Arabia
Why is Saudi Arabia not coloured as a Sunni muslim country, the first sentence of Islam in Saudi Arabia reads: "The vast majority of the people of Saudi Arabia are Sunni Muslims." Oman is the only muslim majority country which fits in the "Muslim - other" group. --Bjarki 16:35, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Comments
The one who translated this map into English obviously did a mistake: He didn't translate the (quite long) paragraph of comments to the map. So, everything we already discussed at the German version must be discussed again here. Some of the most important points:
- Each country is painted in the colour of its largest religion. For some reasons (I can't find a proper word for "Übersichtlichkeit") the countries are not separated into regions (so no Punjab, no Southern Sudan, no Northern Iraq, no Tibet). I was quite puzzled, too, when I saw it first.
- Countries are given two colours if the ratio of its two largest religions is 60:40 or less.
(So the Netherlands are painted correctly, as there are about 35% Catholics and about 25% Protestants (and "Secular" is not seen as a religion (see above)).)
- The map was translated during the few weeks, when we didn't regard Wahhabites as Sunni Muslims. Today, that's different (compare with actual German version).
In my personal opinion, there's no reason why you shouldn't do it differently. Feel free to create your own system. 134.76.62.65
[edit] Cuba
Why is Cuba dubbed with "Nature Religions"? Aren't most Cubans Catholic? W123 02:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Most Cubans practise Santeria, which is included in "Nature Religions" in the German version. Some source said that there are (much) more believers in Santeria than Catholics in Cuba today. I admit, this sounds strange as it's often stated that Santeria-believers mostly are members of the Catholic church at the same time. Maybe you can find a better source. 134.76.62.65 09:37, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
From the Demographics of Cuba page, taken from the CIA World Factbook. "Nominally 85% Roman Catholic prior to CASTRO assuming power; Protestants, Jehovah's Witnesses, Jews, and Santeria are also represented". W123 18:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- "prior to Castro assuming power", so these numbers are about half a century old... 134.76.62.65 15:05, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Just from reading about Santeria, Syncretism and Cuba#Religion, I think it is safe to say that Cuba is Catholic. Santeria is practiced in parallel, so if it is considered a religion, and someone can come up with a source indicating it is indeed so widespread, Cuba can be rendered with stripes, like neighboring Haiti.--128.139.226.36 06:21, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Judaism is really that small?
I mean...really, the population is that small?
Yes, there are only 15 million Jews. Israel is the only country where Jews are a majority.--65.23.76.78 01:54, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Added notes to clarify, removed disputed tag
I added notes similar to what's on the original German page which clarify the issues raised here. I happen to agree with the above posters and with the suggestions on the German page that it'd be nice ot have a map that included non-religious people.--Atemperman 15:16, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] References
Where is this data coming from? Wikipedia articles on each of the countries? -- Beland 07:25, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Tibet
Tibet is no longer an independent nation. Nor has it been for quite a while. 75.34.8.146 22:27, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
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- No Tibetan follows "Chinese religion". deeptrivia (talk) 05:36, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
