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[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!

Hello WoodElf, welcome to Wikipedia!

I noticed nobody had said hi yet... Hi!

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[edit] baba lokenath

I have no idea who he is. Make a request at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Hinduism.--Dangerous-Boy 10:24, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD of Paippad

Hi there. I see you recently tagged the Paippad article with an AfD template, but didn't follow through with making a page for it's entry. Let me give you a few tips that I would have found helpful when I made that same mistake during my first few days of Wikipedia. First, for an article such as the one you tagged, a Speedy Delete tag would have been more appropriate, as the page was more or less nonsense and/or a test page. Under those conditions, an article may be deleted by an administrator without having to go through the regular deletion process that a normal page would have to go through. When you do find an article you think should be deleted that doesn't qualify for a speedy deletion, the teplate you put on the page is appropriate. However, that is only the first of 3 steps you have to go through to nominate a page for deletion. If you click on the link at the bottom left of the AfD template, titled "How to list a page for deletion", it will guide you through the steps, which might be a little tricky the first time but it shouldn't be too hard to figure out. I would also like to point out that the person who created Paippad is a brand new user to Wikipedia, and while right now this is deletion material, you can see from the edit history that they are constantly making new edits to this page trying to improve it. From this You can tell that this person is not a vandal and they are making edits in good faith, and in cases like these I would tend to hold off on tagging for deletion someone's brand new page they created and give them a little more time to improve it. If they abandon the page and leave it as is, I would tag it, but I'd give it a chance for the editor to bring it up to Wikipedia's standards before that. I'll delete the AfD tag you added for now, but feel free to add a speedy deletion tag (either the {{db-nonsense}} or {{db-test}} template) if the article doesn't significantly improve soon. Hope that helps, VegaDark 10:46, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

  • OMG! i am so sorry! i hope it doesnt happen again.WoodElf 10:53, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
  • No need to apologize, I can tell your edit was in good faith as well. I was just trying to give you some helpful tips so you can adjust to Wikipedia a little easier. VegaDark 10:59, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome

Some India related links that might interest you,

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Do buzz me if you have any questions. - Ganeshk (talk) 12:28, 21 January 2006 (UTC)


[edit] request for lokenath

could someone create an article on Baba Lokenath? i do not have proffieciency in wiki-formatting to do it. plus, add durga puja to list of hindu festivals sidebar and footer.

WoodElf 10:31, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

You can still start the article by writing it up in your style. Wiki-formats can be done later. In time, you will get a hang of it. - Ganeshk (talk) 12:35, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Bababig.jpg

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[edit] Hi

Hi! Could you plaese visit the article Bagha Jatin and its talk page Talk:Bagha Jatin? There is a dispute regarding the article.Bagha Jatin/Temp3 is the proposed version.Yu can compare the two versions and comment here.Thank you.--Dwaipayanc 11:51, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Greetings, the holi-hangover continues! --Bhadani 07:49, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Babaprayers.jpg

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[edit] Kolkata intro

Please see Talk:Kolkata where I have replied to your concern about the length of the lead of the article. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 08:14, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Help

Huh! It is not an article at all! It has to be created. I am a bit busy now. However, I am contacting other people who may help making it an article. Wait and see. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:05, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Notice board for India-related topics is a good place to post such articles in need of attention. So is "Tasks you can do" section of Portal:India. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:17, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

==Please Use Edit Summaries==

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thanks, and happy editing.

Tawker 07:00, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Constantinople Picture

The image is not really digitally recreated. It's an artist's illustration of the city, drawn by hand. But, there's no information on who draw it or the accuracy of the image. Latter digital modification was merely to revert the original digital additions on the image. A caption like "Artist's illustraion of Constantinople" would be more appropriate. DeliDumrul 13:45, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup Template

My bot, Alphachimpbot, has just modified some of your cleanup templates. {{Cleanup|MONTH YEAR}} is not a valid template. Use {{Cleanup-date|MONTH YEAR}} instead. Just figured that I would tell you. --Alphachimp talk 17:03, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Rama pic

Hi WoodElf - the image of Rama used in one of your userboxes is a copyrighted, fair use image, and cannot be used beyond the article Rama. Its present PD-generic tag is invalid. I have taken the liberty of removing it. Please do not use any image that is not explicitly licensed under GFDL, CC, Commons or PD. Rama's arrow - this Fire burns always 18:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FAC's

I noticed that you are weary of all the sci-fi and other popular types of Featured Articles. I have currently posted a philosophy candidate. There are only 6 or 7 philosophy FAs on Wikipedia and I wrote one of them philosophy of mind. I am now trying to get Jerry Fodor through, but it is not going well. You might want to take a look at it and perhaps support something different??? BTW, there is no collaboration on philosophy articles. Philosophers just snipe at each other or, if they don't really know the material (99% of the cases) they will not touch it. The concept of Peer-review and copyediting are therefore meanignless.--Francesco Franco aka Lacatosias 16:47, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace

Quality, not content, makes a Featured Article. The Wookieepedian 17:11, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Motto of Japan

You made the article Peace and Progress. I have never heard this as a Imperial motto, and as a state motto. Please add some references. As far as I know, there's no state motto.--Mochi 12:22, 30 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Possibly unfree Image:BabaBIG.jpg

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I've licenced it under {{PD-old}} as it is very old. See its listing and explanation at Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_images#August_9. Lets wait and watch its fate. Good luck. --Victor 15:29, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyvio

You claim to have created Image:Bidhannagar.JPG yourself, but it appears to have been taken from [1]. What's going on? The Uninvited Co., Inc. 22:08, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Raja Yoga controversy

Dear Hinduism Project editors,

There is a controversy on the Hinduism regarding Raja Yoga. Please read the debate on the Hinduism discussion page. Your comments are requested on the Hinduism discussion page to help resolve the controversy. Thank you. HeBhagawan 14:59, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sea of Japan

Hi. I reverted your SoJ edits, since they removed the "East Sea" that was voted on some time ago. For details on the whole mess read Talk:Sea of Japan. Sorry -- Chris 73 | Talk 08:00, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Riviera (continent)

Hi. I saw your addition of the Riviera (continent) page and I'd just like to offer a word of advice. Since Riviera is such a low-key game (I love it, but it's definitely not Final Fantasy), it would probably be best to add to the main Riviera: The Promised Land page before splitting them off into smaller pages. Also, it might help to be aware of Wikipedia's policy on writing about fiction. It would be a tragedy to see all that work go to waste when you find your page on Articles for deletion and the more strict editors saying to delete. This goes for your individual character articles that I see on the navigation box at the bottom of that page too.

In a nutshell, direct your effort toward the main article first before branching out. Axem Titanium 20:45, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Excellent. I wish you luck. If I could give you a suggestion, add {{db-author}} to Riviera (continent) to have it speedy deleted so you can merge it to the main page without having the hassle of redundant content. Don't forget to save a copy for yourself first, though. Axem Titanium 06:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] NUJS

Hello woodelf, you seem to be interested in nujs, do you think that 200px images are better. plz also do let me know the reason for the deletion of right image of the template. best of luck for isc Legaleagle86 10:07, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

that was real fast reply, do you think that scale of justice would be better than the lady of justice for the template Legaleagle86 10:10, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for adding the links to the template, but if possible do start the topics you have linked.Legaleagle86 14:49, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ISC

Hi! Good luck for your ISC exam. --Victor 03:03, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Editing

Hello WoodElf. I notice that you've been doing a lot of editing of some Japan related articles lately, and many of your changes have been quite good. I just wanted to share something that a lot of people don't think about. Every time an article is saved, it is archived on Wikipedia's servers. That means that if you save an article 10 times to make 10 minor edits, you are using up 10 times more server space than if you made 10 edits and just save it once. And, as you can see by the fund drive that is going on right now, Wikipedia is not rich by any means. One thing you might try is moving the text into a text editor on your computer end editing it there (this will also prevent you from loosing your edits if Wikipedia fails to save properly). It is also helpful if you use preview to review your changes before actually hitting save.-Jefu 13:07, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Japan nomination

I've seen two objections raised already due to the lack of proper citation of internet sources. Could you possibly standardise them, as per the suggestions on the nomination? I just don't have the time to do it myself. On the second objection there was something about the "stand alone links" - I didn't understand what Sumoeagle179 was taking about. John Smith's 18:18, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Woodelf, can you PLEASE use the talk page over the sub-headings. Don't you remember one objection over the FA nomination was because they were used? We need to discuss the layout - at the moment we have bold heading and sub-headings. That just looks bad - please come to the talk page and help. John Smith's 11:12, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] The "Yayoi" passage in Japan; see Talk:Japan#Suggesting "China and Korea"

Hello, WoodElf

I was hoping that you can comment again, regarding where the "Yayoi" came from, at Talk:Japan#Suggesting "China and Korea"?

Our current discussion is between the following 2 choices:

Option 1 — Most recent consensus (as of 3 January 2007)...
  • The Yayoi period, starting around the third century BC, introduced new practices, such as wet-rice farming, iron and bronze-making and a new style of pottery, brought by migrants from the Chinese mainland and the Korean peninsula. With the development of Yayoi culture, a predominantly agricultural society emerged on the Japanese archipelago.
  • The points that differ are: "from the Chinese mainland and the Korean peninsula" in the 1st sentence, and "on the Japanese archipelago" in the 2nd sentence.
  • Pros: Some of us claim this is the more stable and accurate wording, using "Korean peninsula" instead of "Korea", and will prevent any potential revert-wars.
  • Cons: Detractors claim it is "original research" to replace "China", "Korea", and "Japan" with "the Chinese mainland", "the Korean peninsula", and "the Japanese archipelago", based on wording used by the majority of sources.
  • This wording was agreed upon (on 3 Jan.) by the 5 of us: Endroit, Jefu, HongQiGong, LordAmeth, and John Smith's.
Option 2 — Currently suggested wording...
  • The Yayoi period, starting around the third century BC, introduced new practices, such as wet-rice farming, iron and bronze-making and a new style of pottery, brought by migrants from China and Korea. With the development of Yayoi culture, a predominantly agricultural society emerged in Japan.
  • The points that differ are: "from China and Korea" in the 1st sentence, and "in Japan" in the 2nd sentence.
  • Pros: Some of us claim this is the more accurate wording based on sources, the majority of which uses "China", "Korea", and "Japan" (instead of "Chinese mainland", "Korean peninsula", and "Japanese archipelago").
  • Cons: Detractors claim this wording is cause for content dispute, and the word "Korea" is particularly problematic because a "state of Korea" did not exist during the "Yayoi" times as claimed by Endroit in the discussions.
  • This wording is currently being suggested by: Jefu, HongQiGong, and Sir Edgar.
FYI - Current Citations used for this passage...
  1. The Yayoi period (c. 250 BC–c. AD 250). Encyclopædia Britannica (2006). Retrieved on December 28, 2006.
    • Note: This source uses "from the Korean peninsula or China", uses "China" but never "Chinese mainland", uses both "Korea" and "Korean peninsula", uses "Japan" but never "Japanese archipelago".
  2. Diamond, Jared. "Japanese Roots", Discover Magazine Vol. 19 No. 6 (June 1998). Retrieved on December 28, 2006.
    • Note: This source uses "from the Asian mainland", uses "China" but never "Chinese mainland", uses "Korea" but never "Korean peninsula", uses both "Japan" and "Japanese archipelago", also mentions "Russia", "Russian mainland", "mainland Russia", and "Okinawa".
  3. Pottery. MSN Encarta. Retrieved on December 28, 2006.
    • Note: This source says that Yayoi pottery were "made by a Mongol people who came from Korea to Kyūshū". This source uses only "China", "Korea", and "Japan".
  4. De Bary, William Theodore (2005). Sources of Japanese Tradition. Columbia University Press, p. 1304. ISBN 023112984X. Retrieved on January 29, 2007. 
    • Note: This source uses "Chinese mainland", "Korean peninsula", and "Japanese archipelago".
Comment

We are trying to build a new consensus again, and your comments will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much!--Endroit 15:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Greetings

Happy Holi !!--Dwaipayan (talk) 06:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bidhannagar, Kolkata

You have added the {{wikify}} tag to Bidhannagar, Kolkata, could you please describe on the article's talk page what you think needs doing? Rich257 13:01, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Japan FAC

A new one has started. It needs your input. Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Japan John Smith's 19:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

WoodElf, can I ask you take a look at the citations on the article? I think we might get the FA, but to try to stave off any more complaints I think we need to standardise the citations using those formatted "cite.....url=..........title=....." things. I've done a few, but there are more to get on with. Is that ok? Please leave a message on my talk page if you can manage it. John Smith's 16:17, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, in that case I'll try and take care of it. So far I've checked the history section. John Smith's 17:11, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Ok, the FAC was closed prematurely. That means we have time to deal with the problems outlined. However please vote again to get the ball rolling. Thanks, John Smith's 20:01, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Queen Mab

Hey, I was the one who removed the quote before, thinking it far too long. I did first create the entry on wikiquote, copying the quote to that page before removing it here. I don't know if someone has since deleted it (?), but wanted to let you know that it did exist at one time. I wouldn't just have dumped the passage entirely. :) Aleta 21:44, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

FWIW, I had to hunt a little, but I found the deletion record where the Queen Mab page on wikiquote was deleted in February. Aleta 21:56, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chokher Bali

Hi Woodelf,I see you've reverted edits by myself as well as by rueben lys in the page on Chokher Bali. I am a native bengali speaker too, and I am pretty sure the meaning of the phrase is someone you love too much (eg, Tui amar chokher bali), and not something you dislike. I think you're interpreting the phrase literally, and consequently the meaning is being mis-interpreted. Care to get a second opinion?Dudewheresmywallet 17:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, the problem is I ma not too much sure what does it really mean. I will try to confirm and then only comment. "Choker Bali means the sand that causes disruption to eyes", says this, and, "Bali, a contraction of Chokher Bali, which means "sand in the eye", an indication of the physical closeness of the two, but also, perhaps, an unconscious intimation of the tension and distress that will arise from their proximity." says this! Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:24, 15 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Here to Help

Hi Woodelf! I'm no-one special, and certainly not an administrator, but if you need help learning the ropes, please feel free to let me know and I'd be glad to help you as best as I am able. In regards to your image problems that you seem to be having, I would like to recommend using Wiki Commons. There you can find images that you can be sure you can use safely, and you don't even need to bother with annoying tags and upload processes. There are also a very large wealth of images, so you can be sure to find something for everything. I hope that you don't take offence at this help, or find it irritating, but when I stumbled across your user and talk page, it became apparent that you are probably suffering the same problems about images and maybe needing help that I myself had, and not so long ago. I hope, this help has been proven useful, and if you would like more advice or help, please feel free to contact me. Best wishes, ÅñôñÿMôús Dîššíd3nt 11:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)