Talk:Women in science fiction

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When I looked at this title, I *thought* it would be an interesting essay on representations of Women in Science Fiction, which the title kind of implies. Instead, this is an article on Women Science Fiction Authors. All qualms about separating this from articles on Science Fiction as a whole aside, I think that this needs a new title and an appropriate article (I am not volunteering, because I don't think I could do justice to it) written in its place. I would assume that that article would not just include the treatment of Women in SF by women authors, but also some kind of "change over time, with influx of more female authors..." as well as treatment in art by people like Vallejo and Frazetta. Still don't see any justification for separating it. Anybody looking up Sci Fi will just miss out, I guess. SO I guess, even though it's important enough for an article, it's not important enough to be read by anybody that doesn't think to look under Women. JHK, feminist and proud of it.

Women in science fiction should be a big article; it badly needs writing. Please see Sex in science fiction which overlaps some of the themes of sexuality and gender that are relevant. The Anome

<2 cents>Please note: Judy-Lynn Del Rey known as an editor (I think also writer). If we have an entry on Women Science Fiction Authors without one on Women in Science Fiction, somebody is sure to produce an example of a woman noted for being the latter without also being the former. </2 cents>

<Eloquence> Moving this here; articles should not contain editorial instructions:

Subjects to be covered:

• representations of women in Science Fiction by mostly male authors
• treatment of women in SF by women authors,
• change over time, with influx of more female authors...
• treatment in art by cover artists like Vallejo and Frazetta

I think there is a lot to say about the general portrayal of female characters - in the early days, mostly sex symbols and love interest, typically needing endless rescuing from the monster. Some femme fatales. Typically films, comics and cover art show women who conform to current stereotypes of beauty, usually in clothing that is skimpy, tight, or both. Some stronger characters with their own agendas now seem to be emerging - e.g. Ripley in the Alien films, or Starbuck in the remake of Battlestar Galactica, Female leads in Star Wars offer interesting material - e.g. contrast Pricess Leia in the 1980s films with Padme inthe more recent batch.

Also female fandom. --lquilter 13:19, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unsourced tag

I've tagged this article as unsourced, since it provides no references to back up any of its contents. Valrith 22:34, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Women's literature" as an area of study

(I am posting this message on the discussion pages of several likely articles and lists; sorry for the cross-posting):

I'd like to invite anyone interested in women's writing to read and comment on a draft article, " Women's literature in English." It began in response to the recent removal of " Woman Writers" as a category. It's close to being finished, but a few more eyes would be really helpful. Thanks! scribblingwoman 16:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Update: I just (finally) submitted the category for review for reinstatement. Fingers crossed. scribblingwoman 15:10, 18 March 2007 (UTC)