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Contents 1 Re:Loser troll 2 Reference desk 3 Your mantis image 4 Walrus 5 Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can 6 Hi Woggly 7 ג'ואל ליידן 8 Kinnernet 9 Israel Cultural Excellence Foundation 10 Re:Israel News Agency 11 Kinneret afd 12 Scholem's entry 13 Ra'anana

[edit] Re:Loser troll

I will try to contact Xtra again. Do you know of a way to retreive his HTTP request headers or at least the TCP ports used?--Konstable 08:34, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reference desk

My comment on you having done your research came across wrong (due to my non-nativeness in English, I suppose). I didn't mean to patronize, I was actually admiring the fact that you caught the Tarsila connection. I find your language question fascinating! I wasn't aware of actual poetry, meaningful in both languages. All I knew was sometimes clever, but always short word-play.---Sluzzelin 10:17, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

D'oh, ok then. :) And thank you for replying.---Sluzzelin 11:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your mantis image

Just wanted to let you know I'm using your Mantisnymph.jpg image in the insect article in the Simple English Wikipedia. I didn't know if that's what you meant about notification in your image liscencing, so I figured I'd better be safe. Thanks, Jhml 21:28, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Walrus

Please do not revert my edit to Walrus. I was linking to the correct article on the Hebrew Wikipedia. I am a professional English/Hebrew translator and a Wikipedia administrator, I think you can trust my edits. --woggly 06:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

My sincere apologies. I was reverting other vandalism (general nonsense that walruses reach maturity at 687000 years and the like) and somehow I missed your legitimate edit. Thanks for noting and correcting my mistake. --TeaDrinker 07:51, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can

[edit] Hi Woggly

Great name by the way. I was wondering if you could help me track down some info on Jill Murphy, JK rowling and the alleged lawsuit, because I can't find a source on it other than IMDB and a very biased "fan" page. Serendipodous 17:28, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ג'ואל ליידן

.עכשו בויקיפדיה העברית

בברכה

El_C 02:53, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

איזה כיף להם. :P --woggly 19:51, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kinnernet

Woggly, if you are interested in learning more about the Internet and Hi-tech, email me. I will try to get an invite for you for Kinnernet Kinnernetgal 12:34, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

No, thank you. But I hope you've arranged an invite for Joel, he seems to really want to go. --woggly 06:53, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Israel Cultural Excellence Foundation

All of the Icexcellence links on various Israeli artist pages were added by single-purpose editor Icexcellence (talk • contribs), which is why I deleted them as spam. If you view them as appropriately notable, I have no objection to your returning them. The Israel Cultural Excellence Foundation page that he created could use some clean up. -- TedFrank 16:23, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree, this is clear self promotion and not very good form. However, the organisation in question is a nonprofit organisation and clearly notable: I've heard of nearly all the artists mentioned on the page and they are all top notch, their webpage contains a plethora of links to reliable sources. It would be better if someone unrelated to the organisation had started the article, but I still think it is keepworthy. I'll have a go at toning down the language of the Wikipedia article and making it more encyclopedic.--woggly 16:35, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I think notability depends more on who is linking to them, rather than who they link to, but I defer to your judgment. -- TedFrank 16:50, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh yes, of course. What I mean is that they have an impressive collection of "press clippings" from reliable sources about the organisation, like this one: [[1]] I'll have to dig in the Ha'aretz archives to find the original for this article (unfortunately some of their archived articles are only available on pay-per-view basis) but I'd be *extremely* surprised if this is forged. --woggly 16:55, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I misunderstood what you meant by link, but I get it now. -- TedFrank 17:04, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Israel News Agency

Thanks for that, and apologies. I was unaware of the Israelbeach connection. Grutness...wha? 00:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, no need to apologise! I agree that it is better to improve an article than to delete it, and I am aware that the site can appear to be a bona fide news source at a cursory glance. I wish all the people so vehemently supportive of the article had even attempted to improve it. --woggly 12:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kinneret afd

You will excuse my answering in some detail. -- I appreciate it if people call my attention to facts or arguments I have not noticed, or to my comments that can be misunderstood or seem inappropriate.

From looking myself at the K. article I could see no reasonable grounds for deletion, so I examined the statements made in the discussion, & it became clear the deletion was in part motivated by its criticism of WP, in part by political considerations, and in part by justified feeling about some off the people involved.

I have always consistently opposed, as strongly as my relatively limited experience at WP permits, almost any AfD for a possibly rescuable article where I think that supression or denial of political, religious, or anti-WP views might be part of the reason. (I explain this view further at User:DGG#biases ). When I said the AfD nomination got what I think it deserved, a clear consensus against deletion, I was referring to the discussions on Essjay and Brandt; in each case there appeared to be an effort to suppress articles dealing with clearly notable critics, and I was expressing my satisfaction that the comments here seemed to indicate that people now understood this was not a good reason. I was not referring to the nominator; I said nothing about your individual motives, and I do not know them & have not tried to deduce them from your comments or edits. People may take an opinion I believe wrong for the best of motives, so I try to never discuss any individual's motives in an AfD or article talk page. I see it could have been taken that way, and I apologize. I have now learned not to use the abbreviation "nom." but write it out more clearly.

I have definite views on Israeli politics, which I try not to express on-Wiki. If you wish to discuss them as one person to another off-Wiki, please email me from my user page. I like discussing politics, but not here.

Free Republic is an overtly & self-declared politically biased site, where one hardly expects to find proportional response to anything. As for any particular posting, one can evaluate it carefully for whatever truth may be in it. As for this one, I think the poster said some things about WP correctly, but over-generalized rather dramatically. I am not surprised at that--from a rhetorical standpoint the AfD was well suited to his purposes. I do not base my own opinions on such postings. DGG 01:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scholem's entry

As far as I can understand, you were the one who created the entry for Gershom Scholem on December 5, 2004. On the talk page for that entry, there is an Italian language entry which was translated by someone else, and which you appear to have used in creating the basic entry. But nowhere do you mention what was your basic source for the entire entry as it was structured then. Can you cite it to me now, so we can update the entry with that basic information? Thanks for any and all clarifications you can provide regarding this issue/entry. warshy 19:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the information. The bit about his marriage to Fania, which you have from family sources is indeed very interesting. Since I've studied quite a bit of Scholem, I'll proceed to do some modifications, which you'll be able to follow, of course. Best regards, warshy 11:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I was particularly interested in the source for his alleged division of Jewish History in three stages. I had never seen it put like that. It looks like the source was the Italian article, but this looks to me more like a one author's theory. Only that in this case too, this one author is not even identified explicitly. I will try to make the entry reflect this reality. Thanks, warshy 11:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

OK. Thank you for looking into it and for the explanation of the evolution. I will try to look into it the way you suggest. Actually, the Italian translator left the warning there that he does not know anything about the subject itself, and that his English is not great. So you did a good job of putting everything together and of revising the overall language. The article as it stands right now is quite interesting. All we need, I believe, is a little more substantiated references, on which I will try to work. Thanks again, warshy 11:34, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ra'anana

I promised not to touch the Ra'anana page, and I intend to keep to that promise. Yesterday user 68.156.22.2 made extensive editing to the page. Most of the material reads like it has come directly from the marketing department of the municipality. Cymruisrael 11:23, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw. And very poorly edited, too. If it was clear vandalism I'd simply revert, but some the information could be worked into something better. Unfortunately I don't have time to sit down and rewrite it, but I'll try to call some attention to the matter. --woggly 12:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks and I'll take this opportunity to wish you Pesach kasher vesame'ach Cymruisrael 12:31, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Right back at you. ;-) I've also added a note on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#May User:Cymruisrael cleanup the article Ra'anana?. I think you should be allowed to edit, but safest to wait until a couple more admins endorse this. --woggly 12:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

• Woggly, if you're willing to keep an eye in Cymruisrael, I see no reason to keep him from fixing up the article. (I reverted the anon edits before I read your comment here. If I have time I'll see if I can spend some time on fixing this too). - Mgm|^(talk) 12:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)