Talk:Windows Vista editions and pricing
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[edit] 64 bit
Can the 64 bit editions only be run on a system with a 64 bit prossessor or can they run on a 32 bit prossessor also? --63.65.45.102 04:41, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Correct prices?
The prices for the basic edition, as quoted by the article are, US$199.00, £179.99, €259.00 and AU$385.00. £179-99 is $355.63! To put it another way,
USA - $200 (plus tax for whatever state you're buying it in presumably) UK - $356 EURO - $336 Australia - $304
Surely this can't be right, can it? ;) --Mal 13:34, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- These kinds of price discrepencies are common. Ask any world traveller about it, they'll tell you... -/- Warren 15:55, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Indeed. I have travelled the world and I have borne witness to this. It doesn't stop me from highlighting it though, does it? Nor from thinking its a bit of a scam really, but there y'are. You know what opinions are like, I'm sure.. assuming you're a world traveller yourself. --Mal 00:29, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Seriously?
Yes price discrepancies are common, but not like this! Are you trying to tell me that Microsoft actually plans to sell the upgrade of vista ultimate in the UK for £650? That's over US$1200! I could buy a new Dell with Home Premium on it next month for £650! (seriously). Or better yet I could get a MaBook with Tiger for £100 more. Where's the sheet that says these will really be the prices?Nicholas 20:20, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- I have to add to this. The Aussie Ultimate prices are crazy! AU$1251.00 full and AU$895.00 upgrade God, the full version costs more than a computer which can run Vista for crying out loud. I was informed the full Aussie price for Ultimate is around $750 and the upgrade around $550. Where is the source for these out of this world prices? --Lakeyboy 12:18, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Well I can confirm via Amazon.co.uk that the prices on the main article are NOT correct. The full version of ultimate is £369.99 and the upgrade is £249.99. Still more than US, but no where near what the article has them as. They should be updated accordingly. Nicholas 13:22, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Canadian prices are wrong. It is 299.99$ for the Home premium, 499.99$ for the ultimate, 259.99$ for the home basic and 379.99$ for the Business all in canadian dollars Future Shop. It's only 0.99$ for all prices ;)
[edit] Ultimate Vista Pricing (US)
I was checking the pricing for the ultimate and I believe it needs to be readjusted... it's listed as $599 at newegg (god knows why) but can someone confirm this and make changes
Xeontg 00:55, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- That's for a 3-pack. A single OEM license is $199 [1] - Indecision 03:03, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Australia pricing
I am Australian and on TV, I saw vista home premium advertised for $179.95 (aus dollars of course). That's a lot less than $300. Could someone please explain this?
- Sure it isn't the academic version, or an upgrade version?Harryboyles 11:15, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
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- I'm sure. It was on an advert for a store you may have heard of called harvey norman and it said
"Microsoft is scheduled to release windows vista on january 30th." It then said something about the features. Then "Windows Vista Home premium for only $179.95" Something something something. It had a picture of the box displayed in the article.
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- Based on the official prices on the article, it must be an academic version. I don't see Harvey Norman selling the full version for $180. Nor the upgrade for two-thirds of the price. That would be just stupid (and I do know what Harvey Norman is as I'm also an Aussie). Harryboyles 14:45, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
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Another question which i couldn't find an answer for in the article, what is an academic version and how do upgrade versions work?
- You generally need to be a student or teacher to purchase an academic version. Not completely sure how usage rights work. Upgrade versions will usually only install over a previous version of Windows. Regardless, you need to own a legit copy of a previous version of Windows to legally use an upgrade. I presume if you only have Windows XP home, you can only upgrade to Windows Vista home basic but you'd need to check further on that. You can also upgrade between Vista versions altho you don't actually need a seperate DVD for that since the default comes with all versions AFAIK 203.109.240.93 13:39, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- I can confirm that Harvey Norman is selling the Windows Vista Home Premium Upgrade Editon with Academic Pricing for $178. To obtain the academic pricing, you must present some sort of school identification to the Harvey Norman staff or you have to pay the normal price for Home Premium Upgrade. Not sure if any other outlets besides Harvey Norman are doing it. --Lakeyboy 01:45, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] move "editions and pricing" higher up?
Can we please move the "Editions and pricing" section somewhat higher up on the page. I suspect it has information that page visitors would want to see before some of the other sections.--Sonjaaa 16:03, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
- Okay... I moved it under the features section. It's important that we describe the features before we get into editions, so it shouldn't be any higher than that. -/- Warren 23:47, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
- i think pricing belongs on some marketing blurb, not an encylopedia. (yeah yeah - "it's a FACT" but really, it's so changeable. Junkwaffle 02:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Marketing Blurb
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Windows_Vista/Archive_6 for discussion section about this article reading like extracts from a marketing blurb. I think it's a little better now. Junkwaffle 02:39, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Still not sure why we need a picture of each box on the pricing list - makes the section look more like a catlogue than an article. Junkwaffle 02:51, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
- *shrug* We're discussing retail software, it's not really out of line to show the retail packaging. We have similar images on Mac OS X. -/- Warren 16:48, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
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- I disagree, while not exactly out of line, showing the retail packaging is IMO of little value, merely bloat. The packaging is not the product, and the article isn't titled Windows Vista retail packaging. I also feel that it's not much of an argument that there are similar images on the OS X article; perhaps they shouldn't be there either? I suggest including one representative image of a package, not the entire catalogue (they don't look that different anyway). Naphra 07:56, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Korean won
The article mentions a Korean won, which hasn't existed since 1910. It must be referring to either a North Korean won or a South Korean won, I assume the latter? Don't want to put it in without knowing that, though - Jack · talk · 14:51, Sunday, 4 February 2007
- It's gotta be South Korean, for one thing that's what the KRW abbreviation refers to (North Korea is KPW). I've changed it. DopefishJustin 01:22, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "support to 2012"
The article suggests (well, makes explicit) that Microsoft will only support Vista to 2012. Since they're also supporting XP to 2012, I wonder if someone hasn't got some wires crossed? 203.129.54.183 02:52, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] An image of WV Starter now appears to be available
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(I don't know how to upload pictures) 86.146.166.215 13:21, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Dream Scene inaccuracy
Part of this article states that "Dream Scene" was available immediately after launch. This is incorrect. A technical preview of Dream Scene was released several days after the launch, however the full version of this utility has yet to be released. Dino213aa 17:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Update
Added Brazilian prices —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.146.101.189 (talk) 14:13, 25 February 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Full Version/Upgrade
I have Windows XP at the moment and if I download the full version of a Vista product will it be any different from downloading a upgrade?
[edit] System Builder Edition
Warrens told me to direct the following question to this discussion board:
Would it be important to add a section--a blurb, even--which deals with the System Builder licenses/editions of Vista which Microsoft releases? It's an OEM version of their software. I don't know how much, or if at all, Microsoft OEM software has been pushed in the past, but many internet retailers seem to be carrying it. The license is a bit more restrictive and there is no support from microsoft, but that is traded off with a cheaper price: Windows Vista 32-Bit Ultimate System builder is $189USD; 64-Bit goes for $199USD as of 3/28.
This OEM software is intended for system builders only and cannot be transferred to another PC once it is installed. The purchaser of this software is required to comply with the terms of the System Builder license, including the responsibility of providing all end-user support for the software.
The full text of the license is available here: http://oem.microsoft.com/downloads/Public/sblicense/2007_SB_Licenses/English.pdf Kingsean 13:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] WinSAT
There is no hint anywhere on Microsoft related websites that WinSAT is an Ultimate-only feature. Yet it is listed here under the Ultimate description. Confusing, at best. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.59.213.50 (talk) 14:25, 4 April 2007 (UTC).