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There was some question about whether the title of Windowlicker, the single, should have quote marks around it as does "Windowlicker", the individual song. I raised the question in Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Music_standards. TUF-KAT responded that it makes sense to italicize the title when referring to the single as a unit (the collection of songs), and to put it in quotes when referring to the title track alone.
--LarryGilbert 20:11, 2004 Mar 1 (UTC)
- I still wouldn't italicize it (whenever I see a italics, I immediately assume an album), but upon reflection, it's probably a good idea not to quote it if it's referring to the entire collection of tracks. You're right that we don't have a guideline for this as yet, we should discuss codifying at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums. The way you have it now seems like the best compromise to me. --Lexor|Talk
It might be useful to include something about the Windowlicker video, which is just too 'king weird for words...I mean, does James really want to hang out with ugly hermaphrodites?! Lee M 21:42, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- I don't particularly like Aphex Twin, but I think Richard D. James is a narcissist, meaning he is in love with himself. That's why he uses his face as a "logo" in all his videos. That's why he makes out with chicks who sport his face. - Ndrly 00:35, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Somebody put up the album cover image! - Insomniak
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[edit] Infrared image
I would they the images within the spectrogram of Track 2 is not a usual photography, but a infrared photo. I must say it's hard to determine if that image really is Richard D. James or someone else. --Abdull 5 July 2005 16:48 (UTC)
[edit] "the charts"
Would someone in the know please clarify what charts Windowlicker reached #16 in.
The official UK singles chart. It spend 3 weeks on the chart, and was Aphex Twin's biggest UK hit.
[edit] Formula
Err, so does anyone happen to know what the formula means, if anything?
- I think it's just gobbldegook. For example, j is supposed to be an element of the set of complex numbers or maybe complex vectors with i elements... but this is an infinite set, so you can't sum over it, only integrate... plus j is used as a subscript, which usually indicates an index, which ought to be integer. I'm not a mathematician though so I could be wrong and just not understand the notation... doubt it though. --Russell E 06:06, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
- Some fellas on an Aphex Twin forum went to work on finding out what it was. One of 'em asked his mathematics teacher about it. The teacher said it was random bollocks. Later it was discovered that it is a line of code from a computer music program. It might have been csound or metasynth. Not sure. Wish I had a source for that, sorry.
[edit] Dead link
The link to the spectrogram of his face is dead. Remove it?
- Probably. I made a really nice image of the face encoded in the song but it got deleted as a copyright violation ;-(. --Russell E 03:22, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Did you put any license tag on it? —Keenan Pepper 03:46, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Sheesh, you could use an mp3 bootleg; I doubt spectrographic images of stolen music is a copyright violation. How could it be proven it wasn't from the actual cd? —Family Guy Guy 03:30, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
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- No, you couldn't use an MP3, because the spectrograph looks different. That's how MP3 works. It alters the spectrum to store the audio in less space. —Keenan Pepper 16:02, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] "Computer music" is not a genre
That's like saying "keyboard music" or "vocal music" is a genre. "Computer music" is any music created with computer software, which covers many different genres. It's an orthogonal classification. —Keenan Pepper 16:04, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
- "When I first started with computer music, the only way to become really good was to learn programs inside and out, to be in control. So I always had that mentality. But if you get into software on the net with that mindset, you'll have a meltdown. It can take a year to get really good at one bit of software, so if you've got fifty programs, and they're all awesome, and you're obsessed with becoming an expert, that's really bad news. Knowing that there are so many interesting things only a search away — things that I'll never get to see — is quite frustrating." - Aphex Twin —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.103.120.135 (talk • contribs) .
- Okay, cool quote, but it's not evidence that "computer music" is a genre. —Keenan Pepper 15:25, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
- It's proof that the person who made this music called it computer music when he was interviewed about it. Aphex Twin's background from the Windowlicker era is in electronic and computer music. Calling Windowlicker IDM is a distortion of reality. I know there was a discussion list called the IDM list and perhaps some of the forum members there prefer to classify every different Aphex Twin record as IDM, but that is their own third party invention. For someone wanting to know what kind of music is on this record, clicking on computer music is far more educational, enlightening, and encyclopaedic than the web forum IDM list's vanity IDM genre which bears no resemblance at all to Aphex Twin's music. Computer music and electronic music are the best names to put in the genre box of this article. Try reading some Aphex Twin interviews where you can read all about Aphex Twin and his adventures in the computer music genre, such as early adoption of native instruments softsynths, pro tools, csynth, metasynth, and so on and so forth. Two years after Windowlicker was released, Aphex Twin contributed a song called Perc#6 to the "Or Some Computer Music 1" compilation it is very similar in methodology to the Windowlicker ep. Enough said! Stop reverting. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.103.120.135 (talk • contribs) .
- Certainly it is computer music because it was made with computer software. No one's disupting that. The problem is that "computer music" categorizes it by the instrument used to create it, rather than its style. I don't care if you call it IDM or whatever as long as what appears in the "genre" field is actually a genre, rather than a method of production. —Keenan Pepper 14:58, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
- It's proof that the person who made this music called it computer music when he was interviewed about it. Aphex Twin's background from the Windowlicker era is in electronic and computer music. Calling Windowlicker IDM is a distortion of reality. I know there was a discussion list called the IDM list and perhaps some of the forum members there prefer to classify every different Aphex Twin record as IDM, but that is their own third party invention. For someone wanting to know what kind of music is on this record, clicking on computer music is far more educational, enlightening, and encyclopaedic than the web forum IDM list's vanity IDM genre which bears no resemblance at all to Aphex Twin's music. Computer music and electronic music are the best names to put in the genre box of this article. Try reading some Aphex Twin interviews where you can read all about Aphex Twin and his adventures in the computer music genre, such as early adoption of native instruments softsynths, pro tools, csynth, metasynth, and so on and so forth. Two years after Windowlicker was released, Aphex Twin contributed a song called Perc#6 to the "Or Some Computer Music 1" compilation it is very similar in methodology to the Windowlicker ep. Enough said! Stop reverting. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.103.120.135 (talk • contribs) .
- Okay, cool quote, but it's not evidence that "computer music" is a genre. —Keenan Pepper 15:25, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Demos/Japanese Imports
The page says now that there are two demos out (one on bleep, and a "different" one--I think that these subjects could definitely use some clarification. Another thing that's been eating me up is if the music played at the beginning of the video is released, and if it's the different demo, so these could definitely use some more sources. Replicate 02:29, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yes! I'm trying to find out about the music at the very beginning of the video clip too, when the homies are driving. It is possible this isn't a mix of windowlicker but a different song... can anyone shed some light? sebiv 09:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- remix by luke vibert (no official release)
[edit] Scratching track
Anyone knows the name of the scraching track that appears at the beginning of the WL video? XamiXiarus 21:00, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Article/album name
Are we sure the name of this record isn’t “Window Licker?” The cover says APHEXTWIN, so the name of the album could be two words as well. Wiki Wikardo 08:15, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
