Talk:Wind It Up (Gwen Stefani song)

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[edit] "Wind It Up" Single Cover

someone take that picture off, i don't know how...i want to take it off, it ain't the official cover, someone created it, i even saw the picture before...stupid. LuverOfLuv 05:45, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

On the same note, here is what one of the sources (beacon-street.net) had to say about the picture: "Wikipedia.com, a website where basically anybody can post information, has listed a new page on Gwen Stefani's upcoming single, "Wind It Up." They seem to have referenced beacon-street.net for thier source, but don't be fooled by the cover art they show for the single. The artwork was actually done by my friend Mary, who ran the previous sexy-tomboy.com (you can find the wallpaper on her fansite), so someone obviously made the cover and submitted it, it is not the official single cover." Please do not upload unofficial covers. — ShadowHalo 02:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sample?

Is there any confirmation that the version of "The Lonely Goatherd" from the movie is actually being sampled? I just listened to it, and it doesn't sound like a sample to me, it really sounds like a "reproduction". I'm not saying that it's Gwen herself singing that part, but I'm pretty darn sure it isn't Julie Andrews, either. - Ugliness Man 13:20, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not related?

This article is was incorrect. First of all, what is "Yodelling?" Is it a song title? I know it's a style of singing, but aside from the obvious... Are the people who wrote this article deaf? The opening lyrics are ripped straight from the Sound of Music. Whether or not it is Julie Andrews singing is irrelevant. This song does, in fact, sample The Lonely Goatherd. Saying it's not related to the Sound of Music is like saying that Rihanna's S.O.S. didn't rip Tainted Love, or that the melody from Rich Girl wasn't directly pulled from the Fiddler on the Roof.

Actually, as I was typing this someone edited it. I thank you for that.

You say that regardless of the source, sampling has taken place. This is a contradiction of the definition of sampling. The additional examples you point to are not examples of sampling, they are likely examples of interpolation. For actual sampling to occur, a previously existing recording is incorporated into the new recording. If someone involved in the production of this song took a copy of the Julie Andrews recording from the movie and incorporated it into the new song with editing techniques, that is sampling. If the vocals and instrumentation were recorded specifically for this song, it's not sampling. I don't know how I can be more clear on this issue. And we still don't seem to have a definitive answer of what took place, and there may not be an undisputed answer until the album's liner notes are available to the general public, or some publication releases a relevant interview with Stefani or one of the producers. - Ugliness Man 07:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
First off, I didn't say regardless of source. I said it may or may not be Julie Andrews singing. I am 95% sure that the tune from the Rodgers and Hammerstein musical was used as a sample. (That's why in my previous statement I said that the song was sampled, because I'm 95% sure of it.) The opening lyrics sound like they could be sampled and just be sped up or have the pitch changed a little bit, or they may have been re-recorded. You can incorporate interpolation AND sampling, using the same song. I was originally just contesting the previous entry saying that, regardless of sampling or interpolation, it did not have any part of The Lonely Goatherd from The Sound of Music. Until we find out for certain, the entry can be contested, but the credit has got to be due because whether the music was interpolated or sampled, Gwen borrowed yet another song. Chimaera2005 14:51, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I am perfectly aware that you did not use the phrase "regardless of source", but you did state, as if it were an undeniable fact, that the song "does, in fact, sample The Lonely Goatherd." I was only clarifying that sampling has only taken place if they used a portion of a previously existing recording, which hasn't yet been confirmed. Your insistence that sampling has occured is based on your own personal opinion, formed from listening to the song, which smells suspiciously like original research. - Ugliness Man 13:17, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

We should wait until the album is released — the track listing credits will confirm whether or not "Wind It Up" either "borrowed" or "sampled" a song from The Sound of Music. The commercial CD single will probably reveal this too. Velten 00:19, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

There will be no commercial CD single. PatrickJ83 01:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
How do you know this? Where was it announced? Velten 00:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
I am assuming you are referring to an AMERICAN release? There were no commercial CD single releases for any of the L.A.M.B. singles. Likewise, very very few singles are released in commerical CD format these days except dance singles and dance-oriented music (such as Madonna). The dearth of CD singles are only exacerbated by the existence of iTunes. A CD single (for America) is extremely unlikely. PatrickJ83 22:29, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Also, why is only a CD single relevant? According to the article the way it currently reads, there has been a vinyl single. I know that people today seem to keep forgetting that vinyl records still exist, but a single is a single. If this vinyl single is a commercial release, it should have the information that this section is making speculations about. If it's only been released to radio stations and magazines and such, it probably still has the credits. Maybe first we should verify the existence of this vinyl single, which might lead us to some sort of confirmation. - Ugliness Man 13:08, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
I was, in fact, not referring to the U.S. release, but the Canadian release, where CD singles are still released and promoted. Velten 22:45, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
To answer this age-old question, an Entertainment Weekly article (link) states "Stefani's new single, 'Wind It Up,' finds the singer mimicking Andrews' yodel from the film's The Lonely Goatherd". ShadowHalo 06:06, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Gwen said on an MTV artist bite that she loved "the sound of music" and always wanted to incorporate something from the movie in one of her own songs and the "wind it up" was the result of this. and have you guys seen the video? 155.232.128.10 07:54, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Critical response

Even though my work for this was reverted, I have put this back in BECAUSE many song pages have critical reaction mentioned. Just because it was a negative review doesn't invalidate it - just read the customer reviews on iTunes - this song is getting just as many if not more negative reviews than positive. Thanks :) PatrickJ83 01:20, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree entirely. Velten 00:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Also I wish people who aren't even registered would stop reverting that section or changing it so only "fan reviews" are mentioned. PatrickJ83 22:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Bwahaha, "a musical brain aneurysm". --80.42.33.178 17:41, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

i think the nme review is worth mentioning: Worst. Single. EVER.

With a reference, yes. Velten 23:05, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chart trajectories

Please note that all chart trajectories will be removed from this page per what Wikipedia is not and WikiProject Music/Tables for charts. Velten 00:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Many song pages have chart trajectories. Just leave it in, but only include important charts (Hot 100, UK top 75)PatrickJ83 01:10, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I have been tyding many of those articles. Wikipedia is supposed to be universal, therefore we will not include "important" charts such as the Hot 100 or the UK Singles Chart. Instead, they will not be included altogether because they are difficult to verify afterward. If you want to argue this, please open a discussion at WikiProject Music/Tables for charts. Velten 21:35, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

The same guideline applies to all component charts; they will be removed because they are excess information and the singles chart is enough to illustrate how a song performed in a country. However, genre-specific airplay charts are acceptable from any country. Velten 22:21, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Is this [1] a component chart? Even if it is I think her being at #2 is at least worth a mention in the article.

Hollaback Girl doesn't mention its peak of number one on the digital charts. It's a component chart and this article doesn't need the excess info either. There needs to be room for more important charts (such as other nations) now that the song is being released all over the world. Velten 00:12, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

But there is plenty of room on the page! And cant we make 2 coloumns side by side? -Anthony- 05:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

We should wait a bit first. Like I said, it's important for other nations to be included. Yes, we can make columns, but currently it hasn't charted in enough countries to permit this. Velten 15:55, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Says who? -Anthony- 23:40, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

"Says who"? What do you mean? You have to be clearer. Velten 20:42, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

You say it hasn't charted in enough countries. Who decides how many is enough? Where on wikipedia does it state how many countries it needs to have charted in..? -Anthony- 23:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm speaking from a logical viewpoint. Not an overclustered "fannish" perspective. Velten 01:04, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Viewpoint? Isn't there a POV rule which forbids this? -Anthony- 11:07, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

You're being silly. I said that we should wait a while before introducing possible unnecessary charts, which was my view. WP:NPOV ensures that articles do not include "point of view material". How does my opinion regarding the article have anything to do with the content currently in it? Velten 20:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

It does, it's your point of view which is stopping chart(s) which the single has clearly done well on to be excluded from the article. That's how it has anything to do with the content currently in it. -Anthony- 21:59, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

That's got nothing to do with NPOV, which clearly states "All Wikipedia articles must be written from a neutral point of view (NPOV), representing fairly and without bias all significant views that have been published by a reliable source"; this has nothing to do with discussion outside the article. Please stop misleading this guideline. Velten 22:36, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Erm, okay. Has it charted in enough countries yet? -Anthony- 04:27, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I see no problem adding more charts now. Velten 23:29, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Yea,I added the official romanian chart,she's at 66 but don't worry cause she just entered the chart(she is the highest new entry of the week).cristy 14:16, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] False

The song isn't acutaly an interpretation of The Sound of Music. I do love the movie very much but in no way was i hinting to the movie in the lyrics of my song.

Love, Gwen —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.211.249.76 (talk) 01:27, January 23, 2007

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