Talk:William Patrick Hitler

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Great article. Very informative. The photo covers the text and I do not know how to fix it. [[Paul, in Saudi 13:39, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)]]

Completely agreed. --Theloniouszen 18:36, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Apparently he never renounced his British citizenship--and he cannot be both a British celebrity and an American person, so I'm going to fiddle with the categories. Mackensen (talk) 10:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The article says that William Patrick Hitler changed his last name but doesn't mention what name was it!

The article says: "The three remaining great-nephews of Adolf Hitler have vowed not to have children, meaning that the Hitler family line will die with them." But the first external link has the eldest saying that he *didn't* make a pact. (This pact notion doesn't really make a lot of sense anyway, it does sound like something that someone's made up to sell a book.) --Bonalaw 12:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Even if they don't have children, Adolph Hitler will still have living relatives, just more distant ones.

Is it true that they are paid by various governments not to have children?--Alan Frize 22:09, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Getting paid not to have children must be an easy way of getting money. All you have to do is not have children, and the money keeps pouring in. Of course if you ever actually have a child, the money stops, but you'll just have to wait until you're rich enough. — JIP | Talk 16:52, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Sources? 2 His current name 3 tasteless joke 4 Y chromosome DNA test done on Adolf Hitler's nephews

[edit] Sources?

The three external links all go to one source - David Gardner. Is there any independent source for this information? DavidFarmbrough 08:53 (GMT) 30 August 2005

Having had no response for over two weeks, I have added a disputed template. DavidFarmbrough 09:11, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

What facts in the article do you dispute? Just the fact that the listed sources are the same, unless there are specific reasons to suspect Gardner of not being a reliable source I can see no justification for this template. I have removed the template again. If there are specific facts that you dispute, please add it again. TH 09:27, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

I don't have any reason for suspecting Gardner's reliability, but does the uncorroborated research of one individual have a place in an encycolopaedia? DavidFarmbrough 08:20, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Although a single source for the existence and whereabouts of Hitler's nephew may be questionable the fact that CNN's Paula Zahn interviewed Gardner gives it a bit more credibility. Benderr2001@adelphia.net 17:17, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I've read about William Patrick Hitler in John Toland's biography of Hitler [ISBN:0385420536]CuinnDubh 03:54, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

"William Patrick Hitler" gets 1160 Google hits, from an FBI site to CNN. I'm removing the "disputed" tag, again. -- Mwanner | Talk 12:13, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] His current name

I recently had a conversation with an employee of the United States Department of Veterans Affairs where I was told (rather informally) what the present name is which was adopted by the Hitler family after WWII. I am very hesitiant to put it in the article due to privacy reasons and sources of stories that the modern day Hitlers wish to remain unknown. Opinons? -Husnock 17:06, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

I'd leave it out until those concerned are deceased. It wouldn't add anything to the article, but it could potentially cause significant harm to people who, by choice, are not public figures. Mackensen (talk) 17:10, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

RodCrosby You appear to already have given it away, although you are not quite accurate in the name you ascribe to William. The last of the Hitlers live in Suffolk County, New York Sate. I could be even more specific, but won't...

(anonymous comment) The current last name of the family, Stuart Houston, is right there in the Officer Down link. It is also easily discovered using commercial search engines. William Patrick Hitler is the subject of a current Broadway play and his sons told a New York Times reporter earlier this month that they are working on a book about their lives. Why should Wikipedia be in the business of censoring correct information just so as to preserve the Hitler brothers' commercial advantage with respect to their book?

RodCrosby 08:27, 25 April 2006 (UTC) The above is nonsense. That link has only just been added, and in no way can be used to justify revealing the name. It merely reveals the name, by linking it to this page. So what? If it is supposedly so easily "discovered" - and I can tell you that it isn't - then let those who want to find out use their own initiative. Show me one single page on the internet that explicitly reveals the name. There isn't one. There is no evidence to date that the family want their privacy so openly compromised. On the contrary, the author of the book, "Last of the Hitlers", states that they specifically asked him not to reveal their new name. There are also inaccuracies in the section regarding the new name, which I won't correct, as I obviously I don't think it should be there at all. But I repeat, there are inaccuracies...

Per your request, RodCrosby: http://www.fpp.co.uk/Hitler/family/Bastin.html

I find it somewhat naive and hypocritical to come out so strongly against posting the name while flaunting the fact that you yourself have been able to uncover it (no doubt thanks to some expert Google skills) and your preference to leaving inaccuracies in rather than correct them. WP isn't in the business of determining ethics or censoring information that is freely available, independently and previously published, and verifiable. It constitutes an important fact about a notable person (especially but not only for the resemblance to the name of Stewart Chamberlain), and should be included. 129.22.247.117 20:24, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] tasteless joke

If Adolf really did visit Liverpool in 1912 - and I'm sure I saw a UK Channel-5 TV documentary in which his US relatives confirmed this - how might history have changed if he'd gotten on with them and stayed?...

The tasteless joke is obnoxious and has no place on Wikipedia.

What makes it a joke, tasteless, or obnoxious? There are lots of books written about "what ifs" all the time. User:Zoe|(talk) 23:55, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps not obnoxious, but pure conjecture.....depending on your standared, that may or may not be acceptable...--220.237.56.163 06:09, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Y chromosome DNA test done on Adolf Hitler's nephews

Why doesn't one of Adolf Hitler's nephews get a Y chromosome DNA test done on himself to see if he has a middle eastern Y chromosome? This would prove that Adolf Hitler had a jewish grandfather since the Y chromosome is passed from father to son pretty much undisturbed..

What is a "middle eastern Y chromosome"? User:Zoe|(talk) 23:53, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

It is a chromosome that jewish males have(haplogroup J) and pass on to the offspring they sired while having sexual relations with the house servant. The middle eastern y chromosome is distinguishable from say an asian male's(haplogroup K) or a germanic male's(haplogroup R1a1).