Talk:William M. Gray

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The following comments have been left for this page: Too much attention is paid to his stance in global warming, and not enough on the rest of his life. It also needs considerable referencing, and a good copyedit for style. Titoxd(?!?) 04:00, 18 October 2006 (UTC) (edit)

Contents 1 Deletion of Source and Revision of Quote 2 LA Times article 3 Removed Note 4 Great Example

[edit] Deletion of Source and Revision of Quote

I deleted one of the sources and revised the quote to "I'll take on any scientist in the field to talk about this...." The source I deleted converted "to talk about this" into an ellipsis. In my opinion, they did it to intentionally imply that he made a bet. It's obvious from the following source (still anti-Gray, so I doubt they would have likewise "fixed" the quote) that this is the correct quote. I've deleted the original quote source and moved up the following one, since their "massaging" of his words makes them automatically dubious.--MikeJ9919 16:03, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I just added a couple of links to two recent news articles, both lengthy, but extensively researched and well-written. Margie 15:22, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] LA Times article

• Like many hurricane forecasters, Gray rejects the theory that the recent uptick in storms is due to climate change. He points out that the U.S. had an unusually low number of storms from the 1970s to the end of the century and says the law of averages is simply catching up. But he goes further and dismisses the view — accepted as fact by most scientists — that recent warmer temperatures are caused by man-made greenhouse gases.

• "It's one of the greatest hoaxes ever," Gray says of global warming, theorizing that it's an alarmist hypothesis made to snare research dollars. Gray believes that climbing temperatures are caused by cyclical warming in the oceans, and that the globe will cool down again in the next 10 to 15 years. [1]

What's the best way to incorporate the 2 quotes above? --Wing Nut 20:20, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Note

I removed the following note

(note that warming is closer to 0.5 °C over the last 3 decades)

The note is incorrect he says quite clearly that he is speaking of sea surface warming, while the graph shows compiled warming from multiple sources, if you read the dataset, and find the sea surface warming chart you will see that he is quite correct in his quote. PPGMD 13:43, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Ha! You're right... William M. Connolley 13:55, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Great Example

Comments by Judith Curry about Gray are a great example of how she operates to discredit anyone who disagrees with her theory. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.231.72.96 (talk • contribs).