Wikipedia talk:Wikisource

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Contents 1 Templates poll 1.1 Itai's layout 1.1.1 Support 1.2 Current layout 1.2.1 Support 1.2.2 Oppose

[edit] Templates poll

Poll will end on November 18, 2004.

User:Netoholic and I have had a long row about the structure and nature of the templates concerning Wikisource (all save Template:Move to Wikisource, which will be left out of this). Seeing as we are unable to reach a consensus, I suppose it is best if this were decided by the community. The possible schemes are found below. -- Itai 00:51, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Itai's layout

5-6 templates in all (the exact phrasing is of no importance, nor are the names):

Wikisource generic

"Wikisource contains the text of [[wikisource:{{{1}}}|{{{2}}}]]."

This will no be directly called except in cases where the difference between the Wikipedia name of an article and the Wikisource counterpart is such that using the Wikisource counterpart would render the Wikipedia link illegible. The use of a single template to handle the formatting of both "Wikisource" and "Wikisource par" makes sense.

Wikisource

"{{Wikisource generic|{{PAGENAME}}|{{PAGENAME}}}}"

Most frequently used templates, and closest to the current settings.

Wikisourcepar

"{{Wikisource generic|{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}}}"

Frontend for Wikisource generic, receiving only one parameter rather than two.

Wikisource (the)

"{{Wikisource generic|{{PAGENAME}}|The {{PAGENAME}}}}."

A possible template used only in such cases where a "the" is required, such as "Qur'an" or "King James Bible". The current Template:Wikisource bypasses the need for this by using phrasing other than that used above in "Wikisource generic", and can be retained if needed. A nice feature of generic templates, which should be noted, is the ability to allow templates such as this without having to reformat lots of template every time a change of format is decided.

Wikisource author generic

"Wikisource has original works written by [[wikisource:Author:{{1}}|{{2}}."

Generic template, equivalent to Wikisource generic and scarcely called.

Wikisource author

"{{Wikisource author generic|{{PAGENAME}}|{{PAGENAME}}}}"

Template commonly used for referring to Wikisource Author: pages.

[edit] Support

1. Itai 00:51, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
   • The two "generic" templates are completely redundant. Eliminate those, and you'll be on the right track. Nesting templates causes dependancy and maintenance issues. -- Netoholic @ 01:56, 2004 Oct 15 (UTC)

[edit] Current layout

This layout has come to pass not through any consensus, but through Netoholic's reversal of all my edits.

Wikisource full

Wikisourcepar

Wikisource author

[edit] Support

[edit] Oppose

1. Itai 17:16, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
   • Not using the same template for Wikisource full and Wikisourcepar creates a duplicity of editing efforts, and prevents the addition of . Not having a Wikisource author parameter-receiving template prevents the use of this template in the numerous cases in which Wikipedia and Wikisource author names differ. ("Wikisourcepar" won't do, as it does not link to the Wikisource Author: namespace. -- Itai 17:16, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)