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Contents 1 Hi! 2 To Do List 3 AlMac memo to SJ 3.1 Deletions ??? 4 Future Lawyers 5 Project directory 6 Wikipedia Day Awards

[edit] Hi!

Hi there cyberlaw students! I'm one of the 800-odd Wikipedia:Administrators. Have fun exploring! If you get stuck on anything, please feel free to contact me at User talk:The Land. Have fun, The Land 00:24, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

I added Team Rockstar's page link. It looks just like all the others in the editing page, so why is ours the only one that shows "User:" in the actual article page? (posted by 65.96.55.242}

Hiya. There are several diferent ways to add a link to a user page. The simplest is to use a simple link: [[User:The Land]]. You can also get the link to display as some other text: [[User:The Land|Text]]. However, the best way to add a signature for the account you're using is to write either three ~~~ or four ~~~~ tildes. That automatically signs your user name and/or a time/date stamp. It's considered polite to use a tilde signature when editing talk pages, so other people can follow the conversation more easily. The Land 09:55, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Welcome students. I hope this will be a productive learning experience for you, and also for us old fogies struggling to cope in an infrastructure in constant evolution of what can be done technically, how best to cope with troublemakers, and what the rules are.

I have a game (see Time travel in fiction for more info} that I copyrighted decades ago that I would like to share on the Internet for anyone to play, but at the same time retain the right to edit what is attributed to me. Perhaps I can learn more about my options observing your educational process. My long range plan is to utilize Internet discussion groups to host players communicating their moves in the game, in which I will have to do a mild re-write for the game to work in that medium.

I have been programming in derivative software covered by licensing and commercial contracts since the 1960's. I expect that what I learned decades ago has somewhat evolved over time, so I am overdue for a refresher on some aspects of the law as practiced by professionals who are not experts in the law.

To try to answer your question

so why is ours the only one that shows "User:"

The reality is that each and every person who shares in this collaboration effort, gets a user page that can be used to introduce themselves to the community of volunteers. For more info on user pages, and what is appropriate to post there, check out Wikipedia:User page.

Now each article page has attached to it a Discussion Talk page.

For Articles in the Encyclopaedia, this is intended to discuss how to do a better job with the article, to try to achieve consensus, and identify areas in need of repair. It also can identify problems best handled by splitting the article into several different related areas, with suitable links to each other.

For our talk pages, there can be a mixture of stuff by us, and by other people who want to bring things to our attention. Frequently, someone posts something to your talk page, you reply on theirs, but this is not a hard and fast rule.

You might want to add sub-pages to each team's talk pages, initially one for what each individual student is doing. If you interested in this, here's how:

• You are on some page to discuss what one of the teams has done, User talk:CyberGroup for example. Add a line that reads User talk:CyberGroup/Anna "Bubbling" Brook consisting of the Group discussion page then a slash then the name of one of the students in that group.
• This creates a red link to a new sub-page with nothing there yet. Anna can then go to that link and key in what she has been up to. Returning to the student group talk page, you now see that the link is blue, because now there is an article there. You can do this in any group for any or all students in that team.
• This technique also works for breaking some Wiki article into specialized areas.

User:AlMac|^(talk) 03:03, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] To Do List

I starting this as a stub, so other members of the project can add ideas on what we collectively ought to be doing.

• Getting started for newcomers to Wiki editing.
  • Some talk pages got links to welcome pages, how to DO stuff on Wiki
  • Some of them got links to suggestions what could be done
  • Do we need to check they all got these basics, and anything else?
  • Perhaps add an occasional additional tip, so as not to drown anyone.
• Links to what kinds of topics relevant to Cyberlaw belong here?
  • Controversies in the news.
  • Recent scandals.
• Review efforts of the students, make suggestions based on what they have done so far. Show them how their work can be traced.
  • Where to sign contributions, and how to do so.
  • Using sub-headings, and how to link to other articles.
• I added links to the students efforts, trying to summarize in a NPOV manner ... I invite other editors to improve how I phrased stuff.
• Where, and how, it is appropriate to advertise this project. Then do so, so as to recruit more helpers.

User:AlMac|^(talk) 05:31, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AlMac memo to SJ

I checked on what some of the students had been up to then posted comments on their talk pages, what I thought might be something useful for them to learn next. This means different student group talk pages been getting different tips. User:AlMac|^(talk) 08:42, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletions ???

You might want to visit edit statistics for HLS_Group_3 which shows that one of their contributions got deleted. Only administrators may access whatever got deleted, after it been deleted. I am a long way from that exalted Wiki status, but perhaps someone else who is helping out here can check into what happened there, and if there needs to be student follow-up.

Similar situation with edit statistics of Frontleft except 3 of their inputs got deleted. I checked the other groups, and as of about 2 am my time (US Central Daylight Savings) just the two groups had had anything deleted on them.

I know what got deleted on me because I am a heavy user of the Wiki watchlist (not to be confused with the national security watch list or watch lists) (Wiki has got two articles here that I think need to be combined), and notice that some entries there turn red. I was too busy to spend much time on Wiki for a few months, during which time I missed out on seeing deletion discussion on an article I had been very interested in contributing to.

I went hunting, unsuccessfully so far, for some archives of some discussion that led to the deletion of articles the students had worked on. Along the way, I came across some links they might be interested in.

• Wikipedia:Deletion reform explains problems with the current system, and has a consensus building process to try to come up with a better approach.
• On the basis of the history of this project, I figure it started January 3, and the students might recognize what articles they worked on, that appear on the official deletion lists (as opposed to speedy deletions & mass deletions by administrators fixing problems that they cannot take through the standard process, which has led to a recent WP:RFC which I hope is not typical of how policy challenges get resolved here.)
  • Nominated for deletion on Jan 3 with explanations why
  • Nominated for deletion on Jan 4 with explanations why
  • Nominated for deletion on Jan 5 with explanations why

User:AlMac|^(talk) 07:28, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Future Lawyers

See [1]. The reason I had originally labeled the category that way was that I think of students of a topic as potentially succeeding in their studies. Oh some may flunk out. Perhaps my humor was inapproriate to the function of w Wiki Project. User:AlMac|^(talk) 04:55, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:15, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 23:24, 29 December 2006 (UTC)