Wikipedia talk:WikiProject template sharing

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==Welcome to WikiProject template sharing==

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[edit] Resources List

1. Template:Interwiki Help appeal
   1. [ Wikipedia talk:WikiProject template sharing/Page Differences ] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fabartus (talk • contribs) 00:17, 13 February 2007 (UTC).
2. M:Meta doc page pattern -- duplicate of original work on Wikipedia
3. M:Template: Interwikicat-grp -- tags common categories.
4. M:Template: Interwikitmp-grp -- tags templates within the scope of the project.
5. M:Template: Interwiki doc page pattern
6. M:Template: Doc page pattern transluded(R) / M:Template:Template doc page transcluded
7. M:Template: Template doc page viewed directly

[edit] Methods

Contents 1 Resources List 2 Methods 3 Intermediawiki linking 4 coord - new coordinates template to replace coor templates

I looked for the Meta versison of this Wikiproject and could not find it so I am contacting you here.

Your project is up for deletion at Wikisource. I strongly suggest that you find people within a local project interested in joining a local branch before creating templates in a new wiki. Signing up for an account would also be a gesture which gets a more favorable response from the "locals". I personally disagree that Wikipedia's large number of templates are a "rich collection of productivity enhancing tools and utility templates." While I believe there could be some good from such a project as this, it must begin with communication with the sister projects and a assesment of what they actually might need based on local formats and tradition.--BirgitteSB 18:08, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks BirgitteSB -- I'll look into it. // FrankB 16:41, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Intermediawiki linking

First off: please don't get mad at me for what I say below. I say it in good faith, and most likely a naive view.

It seems to me that you're going about interwiki-linking to the other wikimedia sites in an overly complex way. Wouldn't something along the same style as the inter-language wikipedia links (i.e. in the bar on the left of the page) be far better, and much more elegant? Not only would it reduce the amount of clutter on the page, it would also remove any issues with categories being named differently as the interlanguage links deal with this as a routine matter. Additionally, there are a number of bots that would be able to propagate these interwiki links (i.e. you'd add one set of links on, say, Wikipedia, and a bot could propagate them to all of the other sites).

I can see two issues with this: 1. it requires developer changes to the mediawiki code, 2. it's not possible to use tracking categories. Hopefully the first one of these shouldn't be too difficult to arrange, and if inter-wikimedia-ing becomes popular, I think that the benefit of the tracking categories is fairly minimal.

Mike Peel 12:47, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

... or am I misunderstanding what you're doing? The above works nicely if you're just linking similar templates together, and even if you're making sure that they have similar functionality. However, if you're making sure that all of the templates _are exactly the same_, it's not so good. In this case, a system like that used at Help:Link would be better - having a single master copy (the best place I can see for this is on the meta), which is then copied over to all of the mediawiki wikis every so often. That copying could be done by a bot, say every 24 hours, with the template being flagged for human attention if it's been modified anywhere but on meta. Of course, extra care would then have to be taken if the template calls were modified. Mike Peel 14:20, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Mike I be putting this whole section in WT:TSP, but the short answer is first that I concluded last fall this belongs on Meta, and much of our 'good stuff' is already there and many of our best template programmers contribute there as well (Omegatron, AzaToth, CBD, etc.)

But here people know me and so this is where it began. Like David Kernow, RL called (demanded!) and I went wiki-missing much of last fall, and was busy with mediation stuff when I first returned to having regular time for wiki's, then iterwikitmp-grp hit Tfd... so that boot in the rear restarted things.

I'd really rather be working on categorization between here and the commons! Sigh... life is not a selection of first choices, most of the time we're lucky to be able to get one selection in our top fifteen!

As soon as I get a decent project page draft together, I expect to move that to Meta, and so too CDB/Ligelum's doc page pattern page... if CBD doesn't beat me to it.

a) like a C/C++ header file ideally, all macros would be identical

b) The real focus is good documentation and promulgation of what is available... I'm good at not finding pages, but to my knowledge, with all the voluminous pages in and off WP:TEM, there is none that covers utility/tools templates. So administrative tasks are blanketed, but not the templates used to make an editor's donated time more efficient.

That idea of a same language interwiki has some merit however, and I'll be glad to have some help exploring that. Lately I've been wishing the main tagging template had lts style edit links, and for unrelated additional reasons, in fact wrote {{ltsany}} yesterday, but haven't gotten back to saving it. (My main system's had some issue this past week, but suffice it to say between RL work and wiki browsers, I'm trying to close things down as fast as I can to not loose anything started.)

Then there's the truly good news like the above notice to deal with off-site. So I need to expedite all along. I think if you read the current hot-off the presses draft now on WP:TSP, some more blind spots will occur to you, and I'd be glad for the input. There is nothing to say my vision for this project needs stay... I'm a laid back kind of guy, not a control freak -- that's my wife's role! <g> // FrankB 16:37, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] coord - new coordinates template to replace coor templates

Please be aware of {{coord}}, a new template which is intended - after ongoing testing and consultation - to replace the nine coor templates, combine their current features; allow for user-preferred displays (Degrees, Minutes and Seconds; decimal; or both) via CSS settings; and output a Geo microformat. Andy Mabbett 16:25, 7 April 2007 (UTC)