Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Vancouver/Archive/May 2006

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Contents 1 Note about some of my Vancouver-area pics 2 B-Line 3 Elementary Schools 2 4 Bridge article was copyvio 5 BC portal? 6 Possible WikiProject BC 7 Vancouver radio stations 8 New COTM for June 9 Sample Tables for project strategy/coordination 9.1 Codes and meanings

Note about some of my Vancouver-area pics

I'm currently upgrading some of my old cell phone pics with digital camera-quality ones (which will also be made available on Wikimedia Commons). Stay tuned, and don't panic if some pics start changing. :) Buchanan-Hermit™..SCREAM!!!.... 07:28, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

B-Line

I propose merging the B-Line article into either Coast Mountain Bus Company (preferred) or List of bus routes in Greater Vancouver. — Usgnus 22:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

• Support: I found myself questioning the existence of this article as well. Merging with CMBC would make sense. →Buchanan-Hermit™..SCREAM!!!.... 23:48, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
• Merged. --Usgnus 17:48, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Elementary Schools 2

After creating a couple of elementary school pages, I've realized that perhaps we should have a single page for all of them or just include them in the VSB page. The high schools in general have enough information for their own pages. As you may already know, some people think no schools should have articles. --Usgnus 19:44, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Bridge article was copyvio

I just replaced the text of the article Westham Island Bridge as it was a copyvio of this page. If there's anyone on this project who is in charge of the bridge articles, they might want to check the others to see if similar copyvios have occurred. 23skidoo 02:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

BC portal?

I'm just wondering, how many people here would be willing to contribute to a British Columbia portal? -→Buchanan-Hermit™/!? 04:26, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I also remember someone suggesting a BC WikiProject. That might be something to think about too -- WikiProject Vancouver would have some brethren from the rest of the province. :) -→Buchanan-Hermit™/!? 04:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

It was me. I can't see why not. As it is there's all kinds of stuff getting put on the Vancouver page that's at least Lower Mainland in scope/context, if not beyond; and myself I'm not big on Vancouver-obsessing, possibly because I'm born and raised here and not as infatuated with it as people who've chosen to live here. BC is a lot more than Vancouver, and there's a lot to be put into and organized for Wiki. I've mostly been over in the Indigenous Peoples of North America project, the project page for which y'all should have a look at in terms of sweep and consensual organization and collective gathering-power. Tables of articles needed, articles in need of review, pretty perspective discussions on how to organize this or present that, we're even managing to overturn the prevailing American perspective on subjects like the Indian Wars (see Talk:Indian Wars and look towards the bottom). There's Project Alaska, and Project Oregon - no Project Washington or Project Alberta yet, but what say we beat them to it?Skookum1 05:59, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

*Ahem* :) -→Buchanan-Hermit™/!? 06:02, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm working on my WikiProject Sandbox right now, making a test page for a possible BC project. I'm wondering, is there a photo of the Ogopogo "statue" in Kelowna available for Wikipedia use (not fair use)? -→Buchanan-Hermit™/!? 15:33, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I would be interested. --Usgnus 16:58, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Possible WikiProject BC

I made a possible opening page in my WikiProject Sandbox. Felt like playing around with the idea but I think there's potential here. Feel free to modify that page. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/!? 15:58, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I like the look of Wikipedia:WikiProject Oregon. It seems less intimidating than Vancouver's. --Usgnus 17:01, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, interesting. I'll experiment with that format later tonight if I get the chance. You're right, it's less intimidating. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/!? 17:54, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't like everything about it (task like font size is too small, relations should be lower down), and I like a lot of what's in Wikipedia:WikiProject Vancouver, like the gallery and other images and the motivation section. --Usgnus 18:11, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

For some reason WP:BC redirects to Wikipedia:New contributors' help page. BC=Beginning contributors, perhaps? --Usgnus 18:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I did a little tweak on that. I'm gonna leave the page in my Sandbox for everyone to develop the Wikiproject before formally launching it. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/!? 18:46, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Just a note that I revamped the test page for the WikiProject BC: Check it out and/or add your own edits to it here. Personally, I think it's very close to becoming a reality. (Feel free to add yourself to the participants list too, if you wish to contribute when it launches. :) ) -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 09:04, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I think the WP:BC is a great idea, and tho I probably can't commit to being a member, I fully support it. heqs 07:58, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Then add your sig to the new Supporters and Fans table (or didn't I ask that already; OK, OK, not meaning to be impatient....)Skookum1 08:00, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Vancouver radio stations

I'm planning on going through the local radio station articles and reworking them to standardize certain aspects, mostly in the opening paragraphs. Before I begin, any preferences here on how to handle station history? The question comes to mind from looking at the Jack FM article. Jack FM adopted the CKLG call sign for marketing purposes, but the article has an extensive history of the old CKLG-AM (730 kHz) and its successors. Meanwhile, the article for MOJO 730 doesn't mention CKLG-AM's history at all. I feel that the best approach is to have each article represent a particular frequency, with the name being (as at present) the current call sign and band. Thus, the article for CKLG-FM would be about Jack FM in the present, with historical information about its predecessors on that frequency (CJAZ?), and any appropriate references to other influences (CKLG) and details. This would also be the best way of ensuring we don't lose historical information about defunct formats and stations. Thoughts? --Ckatz 06:24, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Further to this, the proposal above would keep the articles in line with the Radio Stations WikiProject (which I've just learned about). --Ckatz 06:38, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

New COTM for June

There was a tie for the new COTM for June 2006. I hope nobody minds, but I went with the Cloverdale Rodeo over the Vancouver Intl. Film Festival for COTM for June, mostly due to timeliness. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/!? 18:44, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Sample Tables for project strategy/coordination

The following sample tables are copied from Wikipedia:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America and are recommended for transferring the list on the obverse page into, to provide systematic coordination of various articles needing writing or review. I don't have time or I'd transfer some of the things listed in "Tasks" into tables like this, with each of the sections overleaf forming one table maybe (or by any theme, actually; e.g. parks and protected areas, industry and commerce, population and ethnography, geography and so on. Just above the tables on the Indigenous project page there are also a visual cataloguing of all the stubs related to the project.Skookum1 16:36, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I've put example expansions of this table concept on WikiProject-BC Draft/proposal page. I'm holding back on applying these to the "tasks" section on the project page overleaf until I hear from other participants in the project if they like the idea or not; some lists on the draft BC wikiproject page get quite long, so over there in the case of the Rivers section I've put that list/table on the talk page of the BC Rivers category page; and could do the same with mountain ranges, lakes, communities etc., all of which will be big lists when done. Here I'm thinking of the neighbourhoods, parks, civic bios and so on; same idea as the current task list, just gives it more organizational coherence. I think. Thoughts?Skookum1 20:58, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Article Assessed Status Uses Infobox Pending tasks Assessed by Put a link to the article here assessment date in DD Mon YY format Use the color scheme codes below for background color, and give assessment, or leave white with "not yet assessed" Yes, if article uses standard infobox for that category or type No, if it doesn't remark to elaborate further on box usage Explain further why your rating is what it is, or highlight additional areas of concern Put your userid here, linkable Codes and meanings (See "Status" column just above) Article progress grading scheme Status Cell Color Meaning of Status Needs opinion #FFFFFF This article has not yet been classified into the categories above. Please help by classifying this article. Not started #888888 The article hasn't been started yet. You can help by creating it. Stub #FF5555 The article is either a very short article or a stub that will need a lot of work to bring it to A-Class level. Start class #77BBFF The article has a decent amount of content, but it is still very weak in certain areas, and may lack a table. B-Class #FFFF66 The article is "almost there" but it may be missing one of the following: references, balance of content, NPOV or an important section. Alternatively, the English may need a comprehensive rewrite to make it flow. A-Class #FFDCF8 The article provides a well-written and complete description of the topic, as described in How to write a Great Article. It includes a well-written introduction to the topic, and an appropriate series of headings to break up the article. It should have sufficient external literature references, preferably from the "hard" literature rather than websites. It should be well illustrated, with no copyright problems. FA #00CC00 Reserved exclusively for articles that have received "Featured article" status, and meet the current criteria for featured articles. I agree with classifying the articles, and doing it by category. I also agree that each larger category needs its own page: geography, history, government and politics, education and research, etc. These should be tied in with the task list. -- Usgnus 18:01, 19 June 2006 (UTC)