Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Userboxes

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Userboxes is part of WikiProject Userboxes. This means that the WikiProject has identified it as part of the userboxes system. WikiProject Userboxes itself is an attempt to improve, grow and standardize Wikipedia's articles and templates related to the userbox system, used on many users' pages. We need all your help, so join in today!

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This talk page is for discussion on userbox issues, including questions regarding design and implementation, as well as its wikiproject and any Wikipidia policies and procedures related to userboxes. If you've made a new userbox and would like to obtain comments and/or share it with the community, please do so at the Wikipedia talk:Userboxes/New Userboxes page. Ideas or requests for new userboxes should be made at Wikipedia talk:Userboxes/Ideas. Existing user boxes are listed at Wikipedia:Userboxes#Gallery. Thank you.

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Contents 1 I need Help 2 Behind the Times? 3 Request for Information 4 Request 5 Dear God, What a Mess! 6 Help please 7 Category:Wikipedia GUS userboxes 8 Some userboxes up for deletion 9 Project directory 10 User Boxes without 'mandatory' categories 11 Continued irony 12 Request for help... templating, wikilinks, and userboxes 13 WP:BOXPOL 14 Just Joined 15 New userbox 16 How do you make Userboxes? 17 What do you think? 18 Wikipedia Day Awards 19 Sub-group 20 user box deleted 21 Some display help 22 What happens to ideas 23 This user (comes from / lives in / lived in) 24 Political userboxes 25 James Bond userbox 26 In The News? 27 Wii 28 Wikipedia Userboxes 29 Rassa Frassa Userboxes 30 My userbox creations. 31 help 32 Wikipedia:Userboxes/Profession 33 Notice of fair-use images on userboxes 34 Userbox disclaimer 35 Broken WP:UB banner

[edit] I need Help

I am new to wikipedia & dont no much about it! But I wanna ask you a question that how to make a new user template since it is a community of making user boxes & templates.Plesae tell me how to makw it? Reply soon

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Welcome to Wikipædia. To make a user template you simply copy the codes from this page, and fill in the variable slots with your own information. You then plce the customized codework into a blank page in the right namespace and save it. THen do with it as you would any other template. Leave a message on my talk page if you need any elaboration or assitance.--Whytecypress 02:12, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Behind the Times?

Seems to me many of the stated goals of the project are getting a little out of step with the large support for The German Solution. The first aim, for example, "Create a well-balanced page and sub-page system at Wikipedia:Userboxes to assist users in designing and categorising userboxes, as well as find others and incorporate boxes into their page." is becoming obsolete as these pages are starting to get deleted following the userfication of boxes. On the German Solution talk page I suggested that perhaps the Wikiproject Userboxes space have subpages devoted to being a central gallery of userboxes, no matter where they are located, organized into appropriate categories, and with users, maintainers and creators of userboxes encouraged to add their own. This would have the advantage of consolidating the current wide range of directories all over namespace and userspace. Any thoughts? --BlueSquadronRaven 18:14, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Can you point to the page which lists the "large support"? Thank you : ) - Jc37 20:33, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Here, here, and here. --BlueSquadronRaven 07:26, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Several thoughts.

1. In reading over the WP:GUS page, what I see is a hodge-podge of opinion (looking very much like a talk page), that itself states that it is not policy, or even a guideline.
2. As an aside, from what I have read, I believe that the WP:GUS is for ONLY those userboxes which are "divisive and inflamatory", as that is what is consistantly stated. (Read WP:JOU again, and I think you should easily see that this is also true at least in his statements.)
3. Concensus, as far as I understand it, means at least 70-80% (adminship, for example). I only see that twice in the straw poll. (One of which is beliefs, which most everyone (including WP:JOU) has agreed should probably individually be at least removed from template space in some way, if not userfied.)

All that aside for the moment:

1. Thank you for indirectly reminding me that I had not placed my Request for Information here : )
2. And also thank you for taking the time to share your opinion. If you find any other examples that you feel may be locations of concensus, please feel free to share those as well. : )

- Jc37 22:32, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

1. You didn't ask for indications of concensus, nor did I provide any. You asked for indications of "large support", and, you are still in the minority, last I checked.
2. You should also read WP:JOU again, specifically the part which reads:

"It should be noted that use of [userboxes related to beliefs, ideologies, viewpoints on controversial issues, and ethical convictions] is strongly discouraged at Wikipedia, and it is likely that very soon all these userboxes will be deleted or moved to userspace. Their use and creation is not recommended at this time."--Jimbo Wales 18:01, February 20, 2006 (UTC)

Subscribing to a particular belief or ideology is not in and of itself divisive and inflamatory, unless one chooses to make it so.

--BlueSquadronRaven 08:50, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

First, my apologies. While I intended to ask the question in regards to "Request for information", which is a request about concensus, I can see that I wasn't clear about that. Thank you for pointing that out.

Second, from what I understand, the controversy surrounding belief was a separate, but related controversy. The final result was the statement you just quoted. - Jc37 12:32, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Please remember we are neutral. I personally don't think that GUS IS neutral - and I must say the constant practically policy/accepted thing is growing a little old. I think we should maintain the sub-pages of this project, but the thing is that people don't always want others adding their userspace boxes onto their pages, and people (inc myself) don't want to use boxes in others control. GUS apparently is a big enough project itself to somehow round up all the userspace boxes and make their own gallery, but personally that seems more unmaintainable than when they are in the Template namespace with a global prefix. Ian¹³/t 17:27, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Information

I am officially requesting of ANYONE and EVERYONE who can provide me with information regarding:

1. Where it was determined by community concensus that Wikipedia:Userfying userboxes (which was rejected by the community), is now acceptable?
2. Where it was determined by community concensus that WP:GUS may be used as a rationale for an editor's actions (as one might use a policy statement or guideline).
3. Where it was determined by community concensus that NO userboxes may be created in template space. (I see this addition to WP:GUS but have, as yet, found no community concensus supporting it.)
4. Where it was determined by community concensus that such templates that the community has determined that T1 applies to (those that are divisive or inflammatory), are to be allowed to be userfied prior to (or even after) speedy deletion.

What I am NOT asking for/about at this time:

1. Your opinion of whether m:deletionism, m:inclusionism, or any other -ism, is "more correct".
2. Your opinion of whether or not userboxes should exist.
3. Your opinion of where userboxes should exist.
4. That templates should not have fair use images. ("Fair use images should be used only in the article namespace.")
5. That "Templates, particularly userboxes, which are divisive or inflammatory may be speedily deleted; see Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#Templates. For discussion, see Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Comment on project page asked for links to Jimbo's opinions, and especially Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Regarding the new Template CSD. However, Jimbo Wales has urged both caution in deleting userboxes while the policy is discussed, and, in particular, restraint in reversing others' deletions or undeletions." - Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Guanaco, MarkSweep, et al#Divisive or inflammatory userboxes may be speedily deleted and Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Tony Sidaway#Polemical or inflammatory userboxes may be speedily deleted
6. WP:JOU
7. WP:T1D

Please either respond here, or on this talk page. Thank you in advance - Jc37 22:41, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

As the founder of this project, and someone who has observed so many discussions, it is my view that the following answers your quesrions (in order):

1. Wikipedia:Userfying userboxes is not acceptable, and no approved discussion deamed it as such.
2. WP:GUS is not a policy, nor a guideline, and should not be used as rationale. Any action which does use it as an explaination should really be reverted, and treated as disruption.
3. There is NO policy stating userboxes may not be created in the Template: space, and anyone forcing such actions or moving userboxes is pretty much vandalising.
4. Again it wasn't, and they should be deleted as recreations/per the TfD.

I personally prefered it when some special foolish admins thought they could mass delete everything. It would have been better that way - than this stupid situation where some think WP:GUS can be seen as policy. Ian¹³/t 12:16, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

You're the first to answer each question individually. For that I do thank you : ) - Jc37 13:12, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

A-MEN! --Pilotguy ^{(roger that)} 21:52, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request

I am family to a 9/11 survivor. I've decided to add one userbox to my userpage and I'd like that to be it, but I'm not skilled at the code. Would some kind person create a box I can use? Thank you. Durova 14:38, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Durova, did anyone ever do that for you? I'm not part of the project and not very good with the code myself, but I could try if no one's done it yet and you still want one. Let me know on my talk page. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)} 21:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dear God, What a Mess!

If nobody has any objections, I'd like to start working on organizing the Userbox Gallery into something that is a lot more comprehensive, coherant, and...organized. Right now we have AIM boxes on the grammar page, and there are a lot of boxes found in the categories that aren't found in the gallery. I'm pretty good with organizing. Would that be okay?--*Kat* 11:49, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

It would certainly help - • The Giant Puffin • 15:27, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help please

See Template talk:User NHL-Islanders (and put your reply there please). —EdGl 00:07, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Fixed; nevermind. —EdGl 02:26, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Wikipedia GUS userboxes

I've been working on clearing the backlog on the above category. Earlier, the category contained both templates with the Template:User UBM UBX to template , user pages and basically anything with the template transcluded in one way or another. Recently it became just the templates plus a few stranglers which the software hasn't updated. Is it a good idea to create a separate category for user pages and teh rest so we can keep track on how we are doing. Harryboyles 08:26, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

A few stranglers? Don't you mean stragglers? But don't beat yourself over it: I nearly sent something — for work, mind you — that described itself as an "e-maul."  — AnnaKucsma   (Talk to me!) 14:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Some userboxes up for deletion

Template:User_fathers_day, Template:User mothers day and Template:User mothering sunday have been nominated for deletion. I figured this would be the place to notify people in the event they feel inclined to vote on the matter. --Brad Beattie ^(talk) 07:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 14:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User Boxes without 'mandatory' categories

I tend to find user boxes useful in the sense that one small box can convey more than one will typically be able to convey in a small sentense. But I have seen that most of them come with a 'Category' which the user may not wish to add. e.g. my page belongs to 15 categories whereas I wish to retain only three of them but at the same time want keep all the user boxes there on my page (would have added more boxes but the categories...). Can this be added to User Box creation guideline that apart from User Boxes with category one should also create User Boxes without category. Vjdchauhan 05:23, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Continued irony

Considering the arguements about "official" namespaces, and such, I find the existance of this category up for CfD ironic. - jc37 11:41, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for help... templating, wikilinks, and userboxes

I've created a userbox with a link to leave a message on the users talk page. The userbox uses "BASEPAGENAME" to create a link to the talk page of the user who's using it. Unlike two of the other templates in my archive (namely the contribs templates) that use this method, it will only work on or just one level down from the main page of the userspacespace. Any ideas? If anybody could help it would be much appreciated, as this is very much making a mess of my head at the moment. lol

Not that I expect many people to want to but the box on a subpage of a subpage, but it would be nice to have it working there if someone does. Crimsone 06:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:BOXPOL

Some editors don't feel enough work has been invested in defining a good UBX policy. I see there are nearly 250 participants in this Wikiproject; I'd appreciate some of you getting over there to edit this page. Thank you.

[edit] Just Joined

I just added my name to the list to join the Wikiproject. What should I do to start helping out? --Pacaman! 20:37, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

+1 (me) - Happy new userboxes year! --EH101 12:45, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New userbox

I think I just skipped a step: I created Template:User Sigma Chi and I think that this project says that I have to go through some steps first. Please Don't Bite Me; just tell me what to do next! Scoutersig 21:24, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How do you make Userboxes?

I want to know how to make a user box for empire earth but i dont know how to make them.

--Destructo 087 01:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Check out Wikipedia:Userboxes, it gives several examples of how to code them, and lists a gallery of examples. - jc37 08:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What do you think?

I made a userbox.

Bushcarrot (Talk·Desk) 00:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 19:38, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sub-group

Recently I have noticed alot of complaints about userbox migration and how users must constantly update their userboxes. So I came up with an idea for a subgroup which is devoted entirely to updating the addresses. I haven't figured out a name for this group yet. Whether this group gets off the ground or not is dependant on support (I really don't know how this process works). If you're interested in the group the add

{{User:The Dark Side/Original userboxes/Helpful}}

User:The Dark Side/Original userboxes/Helpful

to you page or leave your name. If you just want to say something about this, then say it. A list of users needing this kind of help can be found here. A list of moved userboxes can be found here Thank you for your time. --The Dark Side 03:06, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] user box deleted

i created this user box,and put it here Wikipedia:Userboxes/Wikipedia

and an admin deleted it promtly.Yes the quality is not top,the isue is disturbing yada yada.Do i have the right to put it in Wikipedia:Userboxes/Wikipedia .yes or no?--Pierson's Puppeteer 20:29, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Why don't you just put it in userspace like Zoe keeps telling you? What difference does it make to you what namespace it's in? —Chowbok ☠ 22:18, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Deleted as per Wikipedia:Userboxes#Userbox submissions. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:36, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Some display help

I've received some feed back that my userboxes bleed into the wiki "user page" template ... even though as best I can tell I am using the same Mozilla Firefox browser as the viewer who pointed this out to me. I am not certain whether the problem is coming from here or here. Thanks in advance for your help! Keesiewonder 18:16, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What happens to ideas

I created userboxes but I never heard anything, I placed them on the ideas page but they are now in archive (so the images don't work now).

Wikipedia_talk:Userboxes/Ideas/Archive_3#Userboxes_for_RT.C3.89.2C_TV3_and_TG4

Was there anything wrong with these?

pjb007 14:00, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Try putting them on the Wikipedia talk:Userboxes/New Userboxes page. - Aerobird ^{Target locked - Fox One!} 16:25, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

People don't always respond unless you're asking them to make one. If you want to see who's using your userbox add

<includeonly>[[Category: Name here|{{PAGENAME}}]]</includeonly>

to the userbox template page. The just check the category and whoever is listed there uses your userbox. --The Dark Side 18:46, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This user (comes from / lives in / lived in)

Something that I just noticed on the German wiki that might be useful here. To overcome the need for separate "This user lives in" and "This user comes from" userboxes, many userboxes contain extra functionality that covers all of these possiblities. For example, when the German userbox de:Benutzer:Vorlage/aus Deutschland is used without giving any parameters, it is the same as {{User Germany}} (This user comes from Germany), but if you say {{Benutzer:Vorlage/aus Deutschland|alt=2}} it is the same as {{User Germany res}} (This user lives in Germany). Saying alt=3 says "This user once lived in Germany". Other options are there for gender (Benutzer/Benutzerin) and even an option for what image you want to show (the flag or the coat of arms). Definitely worth considering here. - 52 Pickup 17:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Here's what I came up with:

{{User:The Dark Side/Original userboxes/Malta}}

You can change the {{{1}}} to something meanginful by adding |{{User:The Dark Side/1}} to the end of the address. Note the |. This would create the following:

{{User:The Dark Side/Original userboxes/Malta|{{User:The Dark Side/1}}}}

This is a list of the current option:

Number	Result
User:The Dark Side/1	was born in
User:The Dark Side/2	comes from
User:The Dark Side/3	lives in
User:The Dark Side/4	lived in

If this is what you were thinking of, then I will just create {{1}},{{2}},{{3}}, and {{4}} to use instead of {{User:The Dark Side/1}}, {{User:The Dark Side/2}} etc. I will also move the templates to wikispace. --The Dark Side 22:17, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, something like that. My only suggested change would be to have option 2 (comes from) as the default setting, so anyone already using the userbox is not adversely effected. The different settings can also be linked to different categories ("Wikipedians from Malta" and "Maltese Wikipedians"). - 52 Pickup 07:23, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I figured out what they had going on in the German wiki. Most of the key words are in English so I was able to copy their idea. This is my second try at it.

{{User:The Dark Side/Original userboxes/Malta test}}

Here's where the difference lays.
{{User:The Dark Side/Original userboxes/Malta test|alt=1}}

{{User:The Dark Side/Original userboxes/Malta test|alt=2}}

{{User:The Dark Side/Original userboxes/Malta test|alt=3}}

Unfortunately I'm not able to put the coat of arms as an alterate option as most seem to be copyright protected. --The Dark Side 02:36, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Yep, that's it. The alternate image feature is not so important, you've got the important areas covered. - 52 Pickup 09:16, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Political userboxes

Where is the list of political userboxes or userboxes related to beliefs?--Sefringle 06:57, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

See Category:Wikipedians by politics and Category:Wikipedians by philosophy. Cheers!--24.20.69.240 22:57, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] James Bond userbox

I made this very "usefull" userbox but I don't know how to make it public!

{{User:DimTsi/userboxes/Bond}}

If you like it please place it there where it has to go!

I would appreciate it if you could reply here!

Cheers
DimTsi 22:47, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In The News?

How about a version of this for those who have contributed to Template:In the news? Ekantik ^talk 03:20, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wii

Took me awhile to find you guys.

{{Template:Wiiwant}}

{{Template:Wiihave}}

--Darkest Hour 01:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Userboxes

I've already posted this on the talk page of Wikipedia Userboxes, but shouldn't the userboxes user BASEPAGENAME instead of PAGENAME? There are people who place their userboxes on a subpage. --The preceding comment was signed by User:Sp3000 (talk•contribs) 05:42, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rassa Frassa Userboxes

Hi, I am attempting to group userboxes using the Userboxtop and Userboxbottom commands, but am screwing it up somewhere. If anyone could go have a look at my userpage and see what I am doing wrong (with the exception of having waaaaaaay to many userboxes) that would be absotively GREAT!!! WookMuff 08:01, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I checked out... and got carried away. I made it easier to read which boxes you're using and grouped them too. --The Dark Side 00:15, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My userbox creations.

I made these userboxes.

--Destructo 087 03:59, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] help

for this userbox:

Expression error: Unrecognised word "expression"

How do I set it to my age?? I cant figure it out. My birthday is February, 28th 1991, and for some reason, it can't configure my birthday. "THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 02:16, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Userboxes/Profession

I suggest the removal of all non-professionals (ie. podcastors, beach bums) to another page. A lot of the categories are nothing close for being professional.--Cahk 19:23, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Or just rename that page so it avoids using an overloaded word... —Quarl ^(talk) 2007-03-21 07:35Z

[edit] Notice of fair-use images on userboxes

Hey guys. I created this temporary template to post on editor talk pages for those who use fair images in userboxes (it's against policy). I think this message is pretty self-explanatory and eases any disruptiveness caused by simply deleting the image. I tried to find a similar notice but couldn't find one. What do you guys think? - Mtmelendez ^{(TALK|UB|HOME)} 21:09, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Rather cool. At least it tells people why and shows you have good reasons. Make use of it I say... Ian¹³/t 22:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Done! I created the new template here: {{Images on userboxes}}. - Mtmelendez ^{(TALK|UB|HOME)} 16:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Userbox disclaimer

I recently made a userbox disclaimer for inclusion in a user's userbox gallery subpage(s). Check it out at User:Mtmelendez/Userboxes/Disclaimer. Any comments on how to improve it are appreciated. Thanks! - Mtmelendez ^{(TALK|UB|HOME)} 16:16, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Broken WP:UB banner

For some reason the UBX banner is appearing in user's UB space. I'm trying to figure out what happend but a few extra pairs of eyes would be helpful. Check my user page for a example. I'll leave a note when I/someone fixes it. Check this cat for a complete list of user's that are getting put in the category. NeoFreak 18:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. NeoFreak 20:06, 29 March 2007 (UTC)