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[edit] Articles

Here are some articles that I have found which I think would fit this project. All are architectural articles but they are well writen and they cover interesting and unique objects/subjects.

Balder - A short article but well written, there is only two simular rollercoasters in the world so it makes it somewhat unique.

Landshövdingehus - Stumbled across this article and found it very interesting, it covers a object which is unique to Sweden.

Gothenburg Opera, Drottningholm Palace Theatre and Royal Swedish Opera - Key article to culture in sweden.

--Krm500 11:18, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestions.
I'm adding articles based on their potential interest to foreigners. As such, I do not consider Balder, Landshövdingehus core articles. One way to determine potential interest, is to look at the interwiki-links to each articles, by which you can determine how much interest there is in the subject world-wide.
I've added Drottningholm and Royal Swedish Opera.
Fred-Chess 14:24, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

East Indiaman Götheborg is a good candidate. Rumour has it that it might stay in Shanghai until the Expo 2010. --Krm500 11:39, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

  • I added it. / Fred-Chess 12:58, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Nordea should IMO be part of the economy section --Krm500 22:19, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Sport atricles: Zlatan Ibrahimović, Henrik Larsson, Nicklas Lidström, Markus Näslund and Frölunda HC. --Krm500 22:54, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Lund should be added to "cities". --Winterus 15:46, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

New facts to Project Sweden, please extend and use references: Lars Ernster, Raoul Wallenberg in Budapest: memorial [[1]] and 1945_The_Swedish_Embassy [[2]]

[edit] Featured pictures

How about trying too get some swedish related pictures fetured? There are some beutiful pictures that might stand a chance of fetured status. Maybe a picture of Turning Torso or Uppsala Cathedral? Any other suggestions? --Krm500 11:39, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I know there are lots of nice pictures of Sweden but I have not seen any interest in selecting them and trying to get them featured.... I ran a "Swedish picture of the day" on Commons for a while, but there was very little interest in maintaining it.
Fred-Chess 20:19, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Assesment?

How about some sort of an assesment project for all the core articles? Rated by importance to this project and the quality of the article? But not only that, it's a way too advertise the project, maybe some new members could come along? --Krm500 22:57, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

If someone wants to assess articles, please go head. user:Pia_L thought we shouldn't make this too complex and I agreed with her. There are around 10,000 articles related to Sweden, and I don't want to start assessing them.
Fred-Chess 20:13, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Actually I would like to start an assessment but there are two problems: first of all, many articles shouldn't be assessed under a general "Swedish" project, but rather in a subproject such as "WikiProject Swedish music" , "WikiProject Swedish history", or similar. Secondly, I have no previous experience with WikiProject assessment and feel uncomfortable starting an assessment department that no-one is interested in maintaining.
Fred-Chess 13:50, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
I was thinking that an assesment would be a good way to keep track of the progress. And I wasn't thinking about a full scale 10 000 article assesment but maybe all that are on the project front page. Plus it's a good way to get new members, like a little banner on all talk pages. I could try starting up an assesment but IMO since it's going to be rather small we could just keep it here and not make an assesment/WP:SWE page.--Krm500 15:16, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Krm500, we would probably need to create one sub-page for each category in need of assessment, since we have so many core articles already. It's just going to be too bulky and hard to manage otherwise, I think. But we can link the statistics to the front page that Fred created so that there's a running tally of how the project is doing as a whole. How about using the code Plange has implemented on the Firefly project as a base for the Sweden project? I copied it to my sand box to see how it works, but I didn't enter any Swedish articles on any assessment page yet: [3]. It's Plange's assessment page which is temporarily feeding into my sandbox now: [4] and it updates the main project page automatically. Best, Pia 14:36, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Uhm, just noticed Editorial_Team_Assessment and WP:WVWP tonight. So does that mean that we have to be signed up as a sub-project somewhere in order to use that kind of "official" assessment scale then? And does it mean that only some categories (like Swedish literature/art/mythology, etc) can participate? Pia 07:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Eh, yes but I vote for no at this moment. The idea is too use it under Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Assessment Sweden but this could be done at any time and we could get the project started first and see how it goes. Quote from me at in this text -"IMO since it's going to be rather small we could just keep it here and not make an assesment/WP:SWE page."

--Krm500 10:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Krm500, sorry, I didn't understand that part of your statement, basically because I wasn't aware of the Editorial team's involvement with the various projects or the assistance available from them. Were you thinking about just adding a grade after each article on Fred's list instead then? My worries about that kind of assessment is how it would work practically: Would that mean that we are going to discuss the merits of each article on the talk page and then ask Fred to add (or add ourselves) the word "stub", "no references", "needs work", grade 3, class B, or whatever, after each article on his current list? Wouldn't doing it in a "small and easy" version on the current page make for a messy front page with possibly unconventional grading schemes? If we are going to encourage and invite people to assist with the assessment tasks and if we are also hoping to supply an overview of the assessments (in order to keep track of the progress of the project), it would perhaps make more sense to eventually invest the time and use the grading scale that's established already for other projects, as well as the established code that feeds automatically to a front-page summary of how many articles have been assessed and what state they are in at any given time. It will mean hard work setting it up, but after that it's pretty much a community effort that can run on slow, eternally. The assessment pages currently in use supply space for comments, where you can add f.ex "referenced, but unbalanced" or "well written, but no citations" etc to explain your grade. So people can go back over the assessments at any time and up the grade once the problems in the comment are addressed. Still: yeah, it's a lot of work. I'll ask someone at the editorial team, but I assume a first step would mean transferring the list of articles to an assessment page and add the grades "good" and "featured" for the articles that have met official FA and GA status, and then ask people to help enter graded assessments for the other articles, whether they are stubs, or fit in higher on the established grading scale (not GA or FA, obviously, since those are official categories). Even if the total assessment task is not finished until 2026 or so, at least we would have the tools set up to make it happen eventually? Just putting the idea out there for later use then. :) Pia 12:22, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

I set up the Assessment department for the Football WikiProject, so in case you/we/whatever decide to start something similar for Sweden, I'll be glad helping in fixing the templates and pages needed for starters. – Elisson • T • C • 14:48, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Maybe we should assess all Sweden-related articles anyways -- within reason. I am not so used to projects. Could you think something up, maybe?
Fred-Chess 18:05, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Johan_Elisson, you would seem the perfect person to take that on. I think we need to make sure, as a start, that the placing of the "invitation to assess" tags on the various Sweden articles' talk pages is limited to those that are on Fred's official list or the assessment part of the project will quickly swell beyond the scope of the original project and become impossible to manage. When the tag is created, can it say something like: "This article is part of the Swedish article improvement drive, please help assess it. For other articles targeted in this drive, see Project Sweden." or something similar, to limit its use, at least for now? Pia 18:51, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sighsten Herrgård

I'm trying to find a reference with information about the Swedish fashion designer and AIDS activist Sighsten Herrgård. He seems to have been quite a significant figure, and I think he deserves inclusion in the List of HIV-positive people. However, this is not possible without a reference, and I've been able to find anything in English. Can anyone help? Thanks. Trezatium 17:14, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Please ignore the above - someone has found a reference already. Trezatium 20:03, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Halltorps

Just a little heads up! The swedish related article on Hallstorp (an early Viking settlements on Öland) appeard on the front page of Wikipedia today (5 October) in the Did you know? section. --Krm500 22:24, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Established or Charter?

I need some help with a choice of words, should I use Charter, Established or something else? I'm working on the Gothenburg article and in the article the word Charter is used for when the city became a city. But everywhere else on Wikipedia, Established is used. The word is for when the city got City status in Sweden. --Krm500 09:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Well we should use the year of charter. You can also say "City in [year]". I don't know what articles you've been looking at but many countries don't have charters (USA for example), but if you look at English cities they will tell you when the city was granted its charter, e.g. equivalent City status in the United Kingdom.
Fred-Chess 11:28, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
If you haven't noticed, I added some more suggestions in the ToDo box in Talk:Gothenburg / Fred-Chess 11:28, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
I havn't noticed, I'm currently working on a new infobox for the article. Hard too find information though, like for example the area of metropolitan and urban Gothenburg. Or urban area population. When I'm done I'll start working on improving the article.--Krm500 22:26, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Oh, they can be tricky... http://www.scb.se might have some information. I think that if you look at standard books about Gothenburg, they will usually have this kind of information. The municipal website might also have it. / Fred-Chess 18:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I have added the infobox now, take a look. --Krm500 23:39, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Just a note, we should not have such specific infoboxes. That one is only being useful for one single article, which sort of makes it useless having it as a template. I would suggest you propose changes to the general infobox for Swedish cities ({{Infobox Stad}}) instead. – Elisson • T • C • 23:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Maybe a bad move by me, didn't think about much, the idea was to save space in the article. The template however isn't created by me, it's the standard city template from the WikiProject on Cities. Other cities that use the same infobox have their own template page, for example Template:Infobox New York City.--Krm500 00:06, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 17:23, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A challenge from Norway

Hi! I have written the list former municipalities of Norway. I noticed that municipality mergers have taken place in Sweden as well, thus we should definitely create former municipalities of Sweden. The Swedish Wikipedia already has some sort of version at sv:Lista över försvunna svenska kommuner, but it is far from complete and lacks references. If someone can provide a good reference, like we have at the Norwegian version, I'll be glad to help in establishing this list! Punkmorten 19:09, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good articles

One idea with this project is that members could grant or fail good article candidates, since Swedish people are supposedely better at knowing omission etc of Swedish articles, and the good article works in a non-formal way so that anyone can grant or fail a good article nominee. Is there any interest in reviewing good article candidates? / Fred-Chess 13:45, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Absolutely, I think that it is a good idea but so far we're not so many members of the project so could such a little group of wikipedians pass an article for GA? --Krm500 00:31, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
It depends if people want to do it. For example, if you nominate articles, I can review them. I've reviewed several articles already. / Fred-Chess 16:34, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] History of Sweden

Ive read some articles related to the History of Sweden, and this is a point where there needs to be done a lot of work... Most of it is just copied from Encyclopedia Britannica and contains loads of incorrect facts and complete nonsense.

So, instead of writing irritated posts at this project page, I though I should do something about it. I am studying history, so I have some idea what it is all about at least. :-)

Anyone interested in helping along? Maybe we could create a subpage about history to this project?

Nice to see that there is a project page about Sweden, by the way. My regards to all contributors!

--Screensaver 21:46, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I had planned to write about History of Sweden, as soon as I brought Swedish literature to GA. But an urgent article came up so it will take some more days. You go ahead and start. I recommend the history books by Ingvar Andersson. They are called "History of Sweden" or similar and are available in both Swedish and English.
Fred-Chess 16:29, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the tip. Ive got a bunch of books as well, but theres always good with some extra. Most of what Ive got is in Swedish as well, and that isnt so good, since "normal" people cant check facts from it. Nice that someone else in interested in editing the topic.
--Screensaver 16:09, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm not very much of a "pure history" buff, but I plan to get the Military history of Sweden article up to FA status some time when I'm finished with all my ten thousand other plans... – Elisson • T • C • 17:53, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Sounds nice. Im no good at Military history, so its nice that someone else is interested in the topic. We need all help that we can get... : - ) --Screensaver 17:32, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately I'm having a lot of problems with Talk:Early Swedish history. A user thinks I'm vandalizing the article. / Fred-Chess 22:32, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bomässan Bo01 and Västra hamnen

Hello, I found these two articles on the Swedish Wikipedia sv:Bomässan Bo01, and sv:Västra hamnen. Do you think we should have articles about them on en:? Would anyone like to translate them? Regards, DVD+ R/W 23:35, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Why not? It is part of a major infrastructure reformation of Malmö, I've been there and even though half the place was a construction area I loved it. But I don't have any time to translate the articles right now, sorry. --Krm500 00:43, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 21:03, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nordic / Scandinavian task force on WikiProject military history?

It has been proposed on WikiProject military history to set up an either Nordic or Scandinavian task force. If you are intrested in this topic, please comment on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history#Two_task_force_ideas. Cheers. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 10:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Swedish history, kings

Are there any thought on how important the Swedish kings are? Is Swedish history "a history of its kings"?

I added a bunch of kings to the core article section on the project page. Any opinions on that?

How important are older kings such as Magnus the Strong?

Fred-Chess 14:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two short articles to merge

I came across two articles about the same subject, Näsby Park and Näsbypark. After merging the content, the second article can be redirected to the first, as was done in the Swedish Wikipedia. Tim Shuba 08:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I've merged the latter into the former, and copyedited it a little.... does it look alright? / Fred-Chess 17:35, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for doing the merge. I copyedited it some more. I would have performed the merge myself, but I thought someone in this project might pick up on things I could have missed, especially as I don't know Swedish. Tim Shuba 20:31, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ace of Base article re-write

Just thought I would point out that I've re-written the Ace of Base article. It was a mess before ! Hopefully you like the new one. AcerBen 12:32, 15 February 2007 (GMT)

It should be noted that in his edits, AcerBen alleged that the Swedish Anarcho-syndicalist Youth Federation were nazis and/or Sweden Democrats. :S Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 17:41, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
A little misunderstanding only, and I hope AcerBen can sort us out on this. / Fred-Chess 18:15, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes I have made a mistake due to lack of research and I apologise. AcerBen 19:58, 18 February 2007 (GMT)

[edit] Raoul Wallenberg

Raoul Wallenberg is up for a featured article. Please read the article and leave critical comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Raoul Wallenberg. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 14:58, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I gave some comments. I could have given them here too, dunno... basically I just think the articles needs more work before it reaches FA quality. Nice work so far though. / Fred-Chess 22:08, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Members of the Riksdag

Hello. I'd just like to mention I've begun some kind of a one-man wikiproject on our MPs: members of the Riksdag. See User:Jobjörn/Riksdagsledamöter and feel free to help out. Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 20:13, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gray content boxing

Why oh why is the project page GRAY? Why all that useless formating? How about NOT boxing the contents? May I change that? Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 17:40, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Yea, sure , no problem. / Fred-Chess 19:57, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Liked it better the previous way. --Krm500 00:09, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Me too. I especially loathe the long list of core articles. / Fred-Chess 16:59, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to put that into tables again, though. Wikitables, not HTML tables. Although, if I'm the only one preferring the white background... restore it and I won't argue. Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 19:38, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Emigrants

I created those pages a couple of months ago, put I haven't had the time to make them of decent quality. Anyone wanna help me and contribute to those articles? --The monkeyhate 12:26, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Film titles

In film titles, the foreign version often becomes the title of the article, so we are having a discussion in Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (films)#Capitalization in titles, trying to establish what is correct for each language. We would appreciate if you could drop us a line about it. Hoverfish Talk 21:36, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Featured pictures

I just want to point out that a featured picture on Commons is not the same as a featured picture on English Wikipedia.

I think the difference is mainly that Commons featured pictures have less focus on encyclopedic use.

Fred-Chess 09:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Same-sex marriage in Sweden

It looks like this article should be updated. I read that a congressman from Sweden presented a report asking for gay-marriage (or something like that). A.Z. 10:33, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Task force

There has been a small discussion on the Elitserien article talk page about starting up a task force within this project. Basically the idea to give users who focus on ice hockey in sweden, a place to discuss and collaborate our efforts. I don't know if there are any special procedures for doing this so I ask here; Is it ok to start create for example Wikipedia:WikiProject Sweden/Ice hockey? --Krm500 23:16, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Go ahead. Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 00:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
I think it sounds like a good idea. If Elisson is watching he could probably give further advice, with his experience in the WikiProject on football. / Fred-Chess 13:37, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
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