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[edit] Doncaster Lakers colours
Could someone with better wiki knowledge than me please change the club colours icon for doncaster lakers to blue and gold. The little square picture which goes next to the clubs name. It is currently black white and red but we have reverted back to blue and gold.
[edit] Collaboration
What about selecting an individual article for a collaborative effort? Maybe we could look at potential FA subjects. I know there are some great writers in this project. A lot of other projects do this in one way or another, so maybe we should trial it? Forever young 08:07, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
- Thats a good idea, but perhaps only useful for large projects? I seem to have so many articles that i'm doing at the moment, i dont have a lot of time for anything else. I think it should at least be tried. POds 17:47, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Feature Articles
An idea from Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union is to have articles to collaborate on for a fortnight to improve them up to feature article standard. I have created Template:RugbyLeagueFortnight and we can open up a new section under this link to discuss what article we will work on to improve. Perhaps if we get it established, a section on the main page just showing articles that have been improved previously or up to feature article standard, including the fortnight's current article for collaboration. What do you all think? --JRA WestyQld2 08:57, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- A good idea. One problem is that sometimes in the union project something gets nominated that I don't know very much about and then cannot help. This collaboration works best if the nominated articles are neither about Northern Hemisphere subjects nor Southern Hemisphere subjects e.g. the main rugby league article or rugby league world cup etc.GordyB 13:00, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- I doubt there will ever be rugby league as a feature article. Looking over the rules, I am scared shoitless that I will be banned for uploading images that I myself have taken of footballers, so it will always be a hard thing to do. Rugby 666
[edit] Infoboxes
Please can I ask why we have separate NRL and ESL infoboxes and also why both of these include variable fields for {{{Sport}}} and {{{League}}} when they are league-specific rugby league templates?
I suggest we make a {{infobox_rl_club}} from {{infobox_nrl_club}} (since it contains the most info) and redirect the existing NRL and ESL templates there, and that "Sport: Rugby league" should be hard-coded into it to save entering it into every article.
Any objections?
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- The ESL infobox is used on a number of union teams as well I think. I dont know why. I created it because the ESL clubs did not have logos/infoboxes at the time, and I guess union clubs just used it because it was there. I think it is on a number of gay clubs as well. So yeah, redireccting it or whatever probably isnt the best idea until it becomes completely useless. I know its a pretty crappy template, so I too would like to see it phased out. Cheers Cvene64 16:09, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Okay, that means we need to keep {{{Sport}}} and {{{League}}} as variable fields then.
Why don't we direct the lot to {{Rugby Team infobox}}? We could add all the extra fields that {{infobox_nrl_club}} as optional ones (so the ESL and RU articles don't end up with big, ugly, empty, infoboxes). {{Infobox England place}} is an example of a template that has optional fields (which are completely omitted if not defined) and others with titles that can be varied ({{{DistrictType}}} controls the {{{District}}} title). I believe we could use similar code to make {{Rugby Team infobox}} into a one size fits all template.
Better still: I could start work on new global rugby club template, test it on ESL, NRL and RU teams then redirect everything to it, if it works. Any thoughts?
| Sydney Roosters | |
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| Full name | Eastern Suburbs District Rugby League Football Club |
| Nickname(s) | Roosters |
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| Founded | 1908 as Eastern Suburbs |
| Ground | Aussie Stadium Moore Park, Sydney |
| Capacity | 41,159 |
| CEO | {{{ceo}}} |
| Coach |  Chris Anderson |
| League | National Rugby League |
| 2006 | National Rugby League, 14th |
Coincidentally, I just thought of this issue whilst doing work on Sydney Roosters. I don't like how the template drags on and includes a few too many details such as premierships, minor premierships, runners-up, wooden spoons and record scores. I think it'd be better if we simplified it to something like what Arsenal FC have (the football template). So I made this one: Template:Infobox rugby league club, which is essentially an appropriation of the football one. The good thing about this one is that it's very variable, and things such as "coach" can be easily renamed to "manager" if need be. What does everyone think of this - it is simple, useful and gives out only the essential information that userboxes are meant to serve for. It is also much shorter than the older one which is what I was trying to get to. --mdmanser 02:50, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
- I like the new template, do we have an agreement that the old infobox was probably excessive? --JRA WestyQld2 06:27, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
- I certainly think so. The only difference between this one and the football one is that they have team jerseys in their infobox. I quite like the idea of them, but to be honest, it'll take a lot of time setting up and maintaining it. At the moment I think the priority is to move every rugby league club's old template onto the new style. For the moment, however, only move existing clubs, as there is not an option in the coding that allows for a "left league" date to be put in. I will look into that in future weeks. --mdmanser 07:04, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Can someone explain why we can't show jerseys anymore?--JRA WestyQld2 02:09, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- What exactly are you referring to? Did jerseys ever feature on pages? --mdmanser 02:18, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- I believe so, I just can't believe I missed it for so long :-s --JRA WestyQld2 01:07, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- I preferred the other template, more information at your fingertips. Rugby 666
- I believe so, I just can't believe I missed it for so long :-s --JRA WestyQld2 01:07, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 1911 rugby league premiership final
I don't know a thing about rugby league to even tell what's going on in this article. Someone want to take a look? NickelShoe (Talk) 03:12, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Danny Tickle
Could I ask someone with better knowledge to go over to this article. We have an anon user who keeps changing from the cited source the player's place of birth. They have provided another source but won't wait for further checks before part changing the article. I'm not fussed what is right, but just that it's right. Thanks for any help --Regan123 03:04, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Western Reds v WA Reds
Although I'm not a member, I'm having a conflict with myself as whether or not to start a new page for the WA Reds or to update the Western Reds. I believe both franchises are different and for the fact that the Western Reds is in the toolbar as a defunct NRL team whereas the WA Reds is a new club. While incorporating some of the information of the Western Reds to the WA Reds is an option I think that for the article itself and for the benefit of the rugby league network on Wikipedia it would save much confusion if the separate article was created for the simple fact that people will be confused as to whether its a new team or a dead team. I'd like to go ahead with the new article, are there any objections? Sbryce858 09:19, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- I think you are correct, two pages seems the best option to me.GordyB 09:23, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'd have to agree that 2 pages would probably be best. However.. if the club decides to incorporate the records of the old Reds into the new club, then the 2 pages could be combined Steeden 06:09, 26 February 2007 (UTC).
- Since the announcement of the Perth side in the NSWRL Jim Beam Cup I have been updating the Western Reds site with the revamped side's information - as far as I'm concerned they are, in most respects, the same club playing in a lower grade. This will be especially true if the WA Reds become an NRL side as is envisaged. I support one page at this point - also because there isn't really a lot more to say about the WA Reds at this time and is best covered in a paragraph in the main article. As an side, I think we need some guidelines over what a 'defunct club' is - a club is not 'defunct' just because it no longer plays at the highest level, this is a mistake too often made in Australian RL circles. CumberlandsAshes81 03:35, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'd have to agree that 2 pages would probably be best. However.. if the club decides to incorporate the records of the old Reds into the new club, then the 2 pages could be combined Steeden 06:09, 26 February 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Archive
As this page was getting overlong, I've moved old discussions to an archive page. If you feel that any particular discussion was on-going and should not have been moved then just move it back.GordyB 10:57, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
