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Spoilers?

Why is it deemed a spoiler if someone in Australia sees Smackdown! and adds the result of a match to it before the episode airs in the US? User:Night_Bringer

That's just how we roll!Bdve 14:56, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm guessing that it's because the US is the biggest market. Plus it's good to have a standard, and since it's an American company, the American airings are chosen as the standard. --JFred 18:07, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Sig move?

I was wondering if anyone thinks that Eddie Gurrerro's variation of the chair/belt-shot and Kane & Undertaker's situp could be considered signature moves, since no one else uses them. Or do they have to be actual attacks to count in this regard? If so would it be possible to add a catergory to cover these? User:Night_Bringer

They could probably be mentioned in trivia..."Eddie G was known for his specific weapon shot..." "Both Kane & The Undertaker are known to perform 'zombie situps'...", but probably not signature "moves" Bdve 19:08, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Fansites

What Wikipedia is not states, "There is nothing wrong with adding a list of content-relevant links to an article; however, excessive lists can dwarf articles and detract from the purpose of Wikipedia. On articles about topics with many fansites, including a link to one major fansite is appropriate, marking the link as such." Wikipedia:External links states, "Fan sites: On articles about topics with many fansites, including a link to one major fansite is appropriate, marking the link as such. In extreme cases, a link to a web directory of fansites can replace this link. (Note: fanlistings are generally not informative and should not ordinarily be included.)". With this in mind, I think that all fansites should be deleted from external links. Opinions? McPhail 14:36, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

What pages would you say this is a major problem with?--Darren Jowalsen 21:56, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

The pages of the female wrestlers seem to attract a lot of links, e.g. [1]. McPhail 00:07, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I also think that this is a problem (at least on articles I have a intrest in), but I think it would be overboard to delete *all* fansites. One fan site seems to me quite acceptable bearing that site is of a high quality (eye pleasing design, updated, and with quality infomation). Anything over one link though would be too much as in most cases they provide the same content over and over.--Anthony 04:39, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
I would just stick to policy and leave only one fansite. --LBMixPro<Speak|on|it!> 23:58, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Succession boxes

I have been pondering this for a while and recent edits on the Rey Mysterio article have really got me thinking. What should the logic be when arranging titles in the succession boxes. I think it should be chronological based on first reign with each title either starting at the top with the oldest with the most recent title at the bottom or the oldest at the bottom with the most recent on top. Any opinions?--Darren Jowalsen 23:31, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I think it's better for the opposite. Starting from the first unique title won, then the oldest to newest time that person got it, then state the next unique title. --LBMixPro<Speak|on|it!>

I don't think the succession boxes are a particularly good idea, to be honest. They convey very little information and take up a lot of space. The Booker Huffman article is dominated by a fairly uninformative list of boxes that only give two pieces of information - who he won the title from, and who he lost it to. They don't tell us when, where, in what type of match, on what show, etc. Compare this to the Bill Goldberg article, where far more information is conveyed in a much smaller space. McPhail 16:01, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I think it should be arranged by relevance of the titles, with World titles at the top.--Trick man01 06:31, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

About AWA

I think spliting the AWA Articles (Belts/Main AWA Page) into AWA (Classic), AWA: Superstars of Wrestling, and move AWA territories article to AWA: Superstars of Wrestling article as a section, and update all title histories thru current day. Since the new AWA is an extension of the old AWA but with a totally new concept (Its actual legality is up to later discussion on this or AWA's talk page) BionicWilliam 02:29, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

King of the Ring

I'm in the middle of reorganising the King of the Ring article and replacing tournament lists with bracket templates. The only problem is that by the time it's finished, the article is going to end up huge in size. It's going to need seperating but I don't know how should I seperate it as. At the moment, I was thinking of making something along the lines of two articles called King of the Ring results, 1985-1995 and King of the Ring results, 1996-2006 as there's not enough detail for each tournament to have its own article but even that has a problem in the future if a 2007 tournament is held. Any suggestions? --Oakster 17:28, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

I think it would best to split that article into King of the Ring Tournament brackets, King of the Ring PPV Results Page, all linking from the original page as disambiguate page with an introduction of the situation. I also think the same thing be done with the Royal Rumble Page and maybe the Survivor Series Page since all three PPV have a match/matches (normally) exclusive to them (i.e. there Main Event). BionicWilliam 18:52, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

That would be the ideal situation. However, the only problem is the main contributing factor to the large size are the tournament brackets. Each one takes about 2-3 kilobytes and with 17 tournaments, it still doesn't solve my original problem. --Oakster 18:32, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Ethan de Sade; Ian Walsh

An independent wrestler has added a page of himself Ethan de Sade; Ian Walsh, and has added himself to some articles (his contribs). I reverted the changes to the other pages as vanity, as Wikipedia policy is that people should not edit pages of themselves. Google finds some stuff about the guy, but nothing suggests that he'd be notable enough for Wikipedia. So I'm suggesting the page should be added for deletion.
↪Lakes (Talk) 21:30, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Just to add, he also has Ethan de Sade and Ian Walsh linking to that article too, so those need to be deleted as well. --JFred 20:38, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Inactive lists

Just to let you know I reworded a lot of the inactive explainations on the Current WWE roster page. While doing this, I had a thought that we should have a standard for the wording, especially when it comes to injuries. I feel that we should mention the date of injury (or date of surgery if they had it), including type of injury, and total expected ring time to miss. I used this wording when rewording some of the injuries. --JFred 02:05, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I think the World Heavyweight Championship should merged with List of Number of World Title Reigns

Since the WHC Page restates the same infomation,the belt factoids should be added to the page under the List of Number of World Title Reigns#World Titles in Pro Wrestling section BionicWilliam 03:14, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

never mind, Moe E changed my thinking (please delete) BionicWilliam 01:05, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I also request the WWE United States Championship be expanded

I request the it should be expanded to include an overview about it NWA & WCW History as the NWA/WCW United States Heavywieght Championshipto be more like the WWE Crusierwieght Championship (that also needs more info. BionicWilliam 04:24, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

List of professional wrestlers

Wow, I haven't been to this talk page in a while. :-D Well, first can someone please look for updated rosters of all of the ones featured on the List of professional wrestlers. It seems all the rosters, except for the WWE and TNA rosters don't get updated often.

Next, can someone look through the unactive/retired wrestlers list and see if any wrestlers mentioned on that page need to be deleted. The last time I came to that page, there was a bunch of red links and now, for the most part, they are filled. Some articles aren't worth having and should be put up on WP:AFD. I went to the first link on the unactive/retired list and found the article Mean Marc Ash. I decided not to put it up on AFD, but to clean it up and rename it. Please everyone, check the pages above for articles that don't need to be here. Moe ε 05:36, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Men Who Have Defeated The Undertaker

Bit of a wierd article but it might be worth keeping... though i think the article's name needs to be changed... but i dont know how you could put it... any suggestions --- Paulley 18:36, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

If this article is cleaned-up, then we could create a "The Undertaker" category (Category:The Undertaker) as a sub-category of Category:American professional wrestlers. The category could contain the aforementioned article, Mark Calaway, Personas of The Undertaker, Brothers of Destruction, Tombstone: The History of The Undertaker, Ministry of Darkness and Percy Pringle. The article itself is a list, so should be moved to something like "List of wrestlers / people (gender neutral) who have defeated The Undertaker". McPhail 19:54, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm putting this article up on AFD. At the most, it should be merged into the Undertaker article because alone the article isnt encyclopedic enough to hold it's own article. Moe ε 20:00, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

New article on the Freebird rule

Now, if you may or may not know, any two members of the Spirit Squad may defend the WTTC, which of course is reminiscent of the Freebird rule. Perhaps we should make an article about it? kelvSYC 01:50, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Or include it in the Tag Title article. --JFred 04:49, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
The problem is that the Freebird rule is applied inconsistently, and not only in WWE (after all, the Freebird rule came out of GCW). The definition of a tag team and a stable really has to come into question (how about tag teams that form a part of a stable?) - you couldn't call the Freebird rule on the New Age Outlaws and suddenly say that DX teammates Triple H and X-Pac could defend Road Dogg and Billy Gunn's belts, for instance. Even in TNA today - AMW is aligned with Team Canada with that Planet Jarrett thing, but I haven't seen Team Canada defending the tag belts there. kelvSYC 05:22, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
I think it's usually fairly simple to note the differences between a tag team with more than two members and a stable, and especially a tag team in a stable. The only group that I can think of as being ambiguous about who would be defending belts under a freebird rule situation right now would be if (TNA) Team Canada got their hands on them. They could be argued both ways.Bdve 17:30, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Don't forget that Triple X used this rule in TNA, or was it 3Live Kru? Maybe they both used it, though I know one of these groups used it for sure. --JFred 23:47, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
I added a section on the rule to the Freebirds page. Bdve 01:28, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Stephanie Finochio

Someone keeps putting in unverified info that she is to debut on Raw as Mickie James' bodyguard. I keep removing the info and note that they must show proof, but anon users keep putting it back in. Besides, I think that this info makes no sense. How can someone be a bodyguard to someone of basically the same size, if not heavier? ErikNY 01:15, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I reverted Dalip Singh to his real name plus about spoilers

Since it hasn't been posted on WWE.com and SD! hasn't aired yet in the US (to keep to the Title Holder Standard). Wouldn't be simple to make the rule on spoilers to just post whats been posted on WWE.com for WWE and TNA.com for TNA etc. So we eliminate any USA POV from Wikipedia on Wrestling? BionicWilliam 23:54, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I basically agree with that, but with respect to Dalip Singh, since they didn't refer to him by any other name last week, and the fact that he has already debuted, means I don't consider it a spoiler per se. --JFred 00:59, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
That's literally the rule I go by in terms of spoilers anyway. Though there was a slight mishap where WWE.com posted the recent Angle/Orton result and removed it a few hours later. --Oakster (Talk) 20:40, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Would anyone be interested in a site dedicated to this?

You can read my thoughts in my User profile. I appreciate all the hard work everyone has put in this project; however, I would much rather see one wiki site devoted to professional wrestling. Hence: www.smashmania.com.

There is a Wiki dedicated to lucha libre out there as well; someone recommended it to me when creating Dr. Wagner, Jr. and you can find the link included at the end of the page. Please remember to sign your posts. BronzeWarrior 08:19, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the tip. I've been working pretty hard on the database. Smashmania 10:13, 20 April 2006 (EST)

Deathmatch types page

Professional wrestling Deathmatch types I'd merge this into match types or delete it. Its useless even to FMW fans etc. Warmon 00:35, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

The Shane Twins/The Gymini

I think that the articles for Mike Shane and Todd Shane should be merged with Shane Twins since the individual articles repeat the same info as the Shane Twins article. --JFred 05:41, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

TNA image blanking

Can everybody be on the watch out on the move articles it seems an anon user doesnt like TNA and repeatedly tries to blank out any and every TNA pic. On occasion this user will replaces TNApics with poor quality WWE versions aswell --- Paulley 09:28, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

User:Jeffjhicks

I've been monitoring this guy's contributions here, and pretty much every edit he makes has needed to be reverted. I think he should be blocked indefinately since he doesn't appear to be a positive contributer to Wikipedia. --JFred 18:29, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

G-Unit192

I just had to do some cleaning to the slang page from a guy signing everything as G-Unit192 with the IP: 67.176.240.95.

Just something that may need to be watched out for.Bdve 20:44, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Former WWE performers/Previous WWE roster

Just wanted to get everyone's opinion on this. Trosk and myself have been debating what name the page currently titled Former World Wrestling Entertainment performers (formerly Previous World Wrestling Entertainment roster) should have. I was arguing that previous sounded too time specific, while roster typically denotes something current (though that's not part of the dictionary definition). Also, should the word Current be put back at the beginning of World Wrestling Entertainment roster. --JFred 19:43, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

How about a WWE alumni category, similar to that of the ECW alumni category? Genocidal 09:21, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
World Wrestling Entertainment Alumni definately sounds better than what Trosk and myself were suggesting. In fact, I think Alumni should be used for all former roster lists. --JFred 22:49, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
I've moved it to World Wrestling Entertainment alumni. I also did the same for Extreme Championship Wrestling alumni, World Championship Wrestling alumni, Jim Crockett Promotions alumni, and Total Nonstop Action Wrestling alumni. This way we have a standard to go by. --JFred 23:11, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

The Justin Roberts (a secondary annouccer) Page need to be recreated

Or redone if deleted for any other purpose BionicWilliam 01:46, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

The Rockers

This page has very little info about their WWF history and just about the breakup, I think that should be expanded.

User 70.248.33.133

This user is repeatedly adding false info and speculation to several WWE wrestler articles, as well as the WWE roster article. I keep reverting him, but he keeps re-adding the false info. I've been monitoring him here. If someone here has the authority, he needs to be blocked. --JFred 05:35, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Jim Ross

I think this article needs to be trimmed a little bit, and at least have more info about his WWE career, pre-2005. Burgwerworldz 20:59, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

World Wrestling Entertainment alumni

Could I get any kind of feedback on the revamping I am doing to the World Wrestling Entertainment alumni page? I am making it more of a Table format. Alphabetical order by thier real last name to lessen the confusion and a notes section for a possible reason they left. Thoughts? Moe ε 23:38, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't really like listing everyone by their real name. It's harder to find what you are looking for. Especially for someone like Boris Zhukov, the average fan (myself included) is not going to know his real name off the top of his/her head.--Darren Jowalsen 00:05, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Any suggestions as to which name I should list it by? Moe ε 00:53, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Maybe the last ring name used in WWE? --JFred 01:06, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

remove WCW/ECW only Stars from the alumini page they where not apart of the Invasion (most WCW stars that weren't apart of the Invasion were contracted to AOL/Time Warner not WCW or didn't sign a WWF or WWF Development Contract. Most ECW Stars that weren't apart of Invasion didn't sign a WWF or WWF Development Contract) BionicWilliam 01:13, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Responding to both of you:
JFred: There tends to be a problem with this. As some newbies to Wikipedia log on Wikipedia and re-list wrestlers twice. Sometimes under differant names and differant times they were released from WWE. IMHO, I think by listing it by thier real name in alphabetical order, it will cut down on users re-listing them in differant places under new names and differant dates. Moe ε 01:18, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
BionicWilliam About the WCW/ECW wrestlers, thier contracts were bought by WWE and were either renewed or the wrestler was released. Hence, everyone's contract was sold to WWE and should be listed; even if they didn't make an appearance or not. Moe ε 01:18, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

The Big Stars (Sting,Hogan,Goldberg,Nash,Stiener,Flair) in WCW were contracted to AOL/Time Warner not WCW,that is the reason they didn't take part with Invasion,other wrestlers left WCW before or at buyout since they didn't want to work for the WWF or signed WWF Developement Contracts,ECW wasn't bought it assets where won in a court case by the WWF/WWE a year or 2 after the Invasion happened. (RVD,Lynn,Tazz,Dreamer all came to WWF by there own intitive). Atleast change all WWE refence to them to the WWF since thats what was then known as. BionicWilliam 01:33, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Just because of few problems, I don't think we should resort to a highly user unfriendly list that only the smarkiest of smarks will be able to use. For the few problem people like Sean Waltman, you can list by real name but if somone is going to look for someone like Arn Anderson, you are making it more difficult to find the information they want with only real names.--Darren Jowalsen 02:56, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I also think we should have a section for the particular year; that is what i visited the page for, recent releases easy to find, but that is impossible now. Trosk 19:51, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Update: I am starting to/still am improving on the list and have taken into consideration on what everyone has said.

Darren Jowalsen/JFred: As to how the list will be kept, I have listed in alphabetical order by thier stage name as suggested. I guess to solve the problem of double listing and misinformation, I will have to moniter the page often.

BionicWilliam: As to the WWF/WCW/ECW merger and what happened to thier contracts, it's impossible to tell who was actually contracted to who (big names like Sting contracted to AOL/TIme Warner or WCW dispute). So instead of listing them with superstars that were 100% released from the company without dispute to which company they were contracted with, I have started a seperate section of wrestlers that were released from WCW/ECW that were (supposedly) never really contracted.

Trosk: While a seperate list for recent releases might be more convienent, there are more ways than one on Wikipedia to find out if a wrestler was released. World Wrestling Entertainment roster is constantly updated witht the latest information and if a wrestlers name isn't there anymore, than more than likely you can check the alumni page and see his/her name there. Wrestlers articles are probably up-to-date with the latest. Also many external links can provide the latest information on releases from WWE. In short, a seperate list for the latest releases of unnessecary.

If you have any furthur ideas on how to improve on the page or concerns about my editing. Please respond here. Moe ε 20:32, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

On a side note, I'm thinking that wrestlers like Chris Cage and Dean Visk who only wrestled in the developmental territories prior to their release should be placed in a seperate section as well as the casual fan has probably never heard of these guys. Your call. --JFred 21:18, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I'll consider it. Thanks for the suggetion. Moe ε 22:20, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

"Kayfabe"

I must admire the extensive work that has been done to ensure every wrestling article is accurate and well-written. These articles have been created similar to other forms of sport and entertainment. However, there is one major flaw. The frequent, non-stop metioning of "this did not really happen in real life", or, as it is called, kayfabe. I myself a devoted mark, which some of you know, I have a problem with this, but even thinking like a smark it troubles me. Any other article on Wikipedia, other than those of professional wrestling, never mention that "this did not really happen in real life". Neither articles on The Simpsons, All in the Family, That 70's Show or even Unan1mous (though, this is up for debate) mention "this did not really happen in real life". So, then, why do we constantly do this in our articles? According to the smarks of the world and the Internet Wrestling Community, it should be common knowledge that wrestling is "fake" or "staged", whatever you prefer to define it as. So, to keep on par with other articles on sports and/or entertainment we should eliminate "this did not really happen in real life", with the exception of current and previous rosters. Please do not scoff at my viewpoint, and throw it out the window, but consider it. Trosk 19:51, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

It can get truely confusing when talking about the world of wrestling when things are or aren't Kayfabe. Especially when we have invented relations and injuries. It just makes for a better to understand article when we mention, quickly, that Ole Anderson and Arn Anderson aren't really brothers or that Randy Savage and Liz were already married when they...got married...before getting on with the story. Bdve 20:17, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
An example would be useful. Also, it has to be noted when injuries are real and when they are fake; when acrimony is real and when it is fake, etc. Wrestling is different from TV shows in that it frequently attempts to blend fact and fiction, as with the Edge/Lita/Hardy storyline or the ongoing storyline with Orton, his suspension and his ankle. McPhail 20:25, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I know when I've read kayfabe stuff elsewhere, they've used quotation marks (ie. Undertaker and Kane are "brothers", or Orton was "injured" at the hands of Angle). Maybe doing something like that here might help. --JFred 20:29, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
The quotes have been tried here and get really distracting. It's easier to just put a (kayfabe) at the first mention of something then let it go on from there. Bdve 21:02, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually, after hearing what Bdve had to say, I found that this problem really has no solution for a simple reason: The page for the person is the same for that of the "character" as you call it. This is because that "character" is that person. So, I guess we should leave it as it is. Trosk 19:18, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Kane

I was looking at the Kane article and noticed that the "Championships and Accomplishments" section needs some cleaning up, like adding that box format. I know if I try I'll screw up. Someone should also go around and see if other profiles need that section, or any other, cleaned up. --JFred 21:12, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually I changed it about a week ago and a few of the other articles have also got the same format. I believe McPhail said it well here why this format might be a good idea. --Oakster (Talk) 21:31, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Ah, forgot about that. Fair enough. --JFred 21:36, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

User:JB196

User:JB196, is a person who claims to have compiled move lists for independent wrestling stars over the past three years and submitted them to Obsessed with Wrestling.com ... he claims as he has compiled them he should get credit for any article that has move lists... and first this was for 8 or 9 different wrestlers from very different backgrounds including Chris Sabin, Amazing Red, The S.A.T., John Kronus where he would go on to his name under the move section for each article in brakets... these obviously were reverted... but he persisted...

Almost all of these article already have OWW linked in the references yet he considered this not to be enough... even though on many accounts what OWW had as moves differ from what is in the article (esspecially move descriptions of which OWW has very little)... i have continually have been sending messages and trying to stop his credit rampage. Finding out along the way he has sent him move list not only to OWW but a variaty of Web pages and sources... how can he claim to this beleif that move list are his and his alone is beyond reason... esspecially when it is things like the SAT use the Spanish fly... its a fact they do how can he say that the article should credit him for an obvious fact --- Paulley 19:34, 26 April 2006 (UTC) --- sorry he is really starting to get on my nerves

If adding OWW as a reference will keep him happy, then it's probably worthwhile doing it. McPhail 13:50, 28 April 2006 (UTC)


Paulley, that's an EXTREMELY bias version of the situation.

"Finding out along the way he has sent him move list not only to OWW but a variaty of Web pages and sources"

False

"what OWW had as moves differ from what is in the article (esspecially move descriptions of which OWW has very little)"

That's not relevent to the argument.

"esspecially when it is things like the SAT use the Spanish fly... its a fact they do how can he say that the article should credit him for an obvious fact"

That's like saying a historian shouldn't be credited with information because it's all fact.

"8 or 9 different wrestlers from very different backgrounds"

So what? -- User:JB196


Lol look if you dont want to freely share information... on wikipedia then dont add any... and you told me yourself that you have sent it to other places... unless you were lying to me when you replied to this comment
"wait i know where i have seen that list before... that was part of the finishing and signature move page of http://robbo.oeck.net/Stuff/ROH.html (back when it was online in 2005)"
with
- "Hey, Genius, that page WAS my work, and I gave the guy permission to print it? Why? Because he was a friend of mine from Thesmartmarks.com and I wanted him to host all my move lists."
if its very different from your work how can you take credit saying it yours.
Historian's dont need to watch a TV show to find thier info
8 or 9 was in reference to the fact if you really thought that you should be taking credit for the movelists then why are you not adding your name to the likes of Paul London, Brian Kendrick, Petey Williams, AJ Styles, etc etc --- Paulley 10:36, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Repeat Vandal

An anonymous user who uses the IP address 4.38.35.1 continually vandalizes wrestling related pages. He has been blocked several times this month already, but when the block expires, he's right back at it. Just thought I'd let you guys know, as I've already reverted him twice today. --JFred 19:47, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I haven't checked any of the articles I created or rewrote yet, but I will to make sure this guy didn't vandalize them. Thanks for the tip! BronzeWarrior 06:36, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Pro Wrestling Slang

McPhail pulled the fan specific stuff from the slang page, and after thinking about it for a minute I decided that I agreed with the decision but I still think the removed items deserve to be mentioned somewhere. Would anyone object (or forsee any objections) to a Professional Wrestling fan slang type page? Bdve 18:01, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

I would. WP:NOT says that Wikipedia isn't for definitions and the professional wrestling slang article treads the gray area with dictionary definitions as it is. --Jtalledo (talk) 20:09, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Good point, good point, nevermind. Bdve 06:11, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Paul London and Brian Kendrick

There is an article up for this team, which is perfectly fine, because they have been teaming together for quite a while now, but the article needs a LOT of work. It was a very inexperienced user who created the page, and only refers to info in the last few months. Can anyone help with the extensive cleanup this page requires?--Sentinel boy 08:08, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Done and done --- Paulley

Descendant Wikiprojects

I have started a new WikiProject along with Kingfisherswift called Wikipedia:WikiProject Music of wrestling. It is the Pro Wrestling WikiProjects new descendant Wikiproject. It is aimed around organizing and starting articles related to WWE albums/theme music for PPV's and entrance musics. Hope everyone joins! Moe ε 17:03, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

PLEASE ASSIST, WRESTLING FANS OF WIKIPEDIA

Me and the soon to be departing (hopefully not) Moe Epsilon are setting up a project to deal with the music of this great business. It will be Wikipedia:WikiProject Music of wrestling. Join if you are remotely interested - every little helps! Thanks. Kingfisherswift 17:13, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

I'll join. I've been busy working on the WWE Wreckless Intent article for months so I'll be very glad to give a helping hand. --Oakster (Talk) 21:18, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

WWE alumni page protection

Anon. users keep reverting the WWE alumni page back to it's original format. Because of this, I feel that page needs to be protected like the WWE roster page is. --JFred 22:17, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Combat Zone Wrestling

I'm currently working on the article and using the RoH page as a model. Jsst a heads up to expect many changes in the article in the umpcoming days. --Smoltz 02:01, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Due the recent and numberous vandals and edits made the page, which I'm assuming stems from the storyline of the CZW vs. RoH, I feel it should be placed under protection, like it was earlier at one point.
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