Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ontario

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Okay, I started this page to help focus building the information on here about Ontario, I have modelled it after some similar projects and hopefully some of you will pick it up from here! user:blacknail 19:31, 7 September 2005

I'm interested in developing the articles pertaining to the Rainy River District, I'd certainly need some help as I'm not too familiar with the formatting used.--Picard102 16:58, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Dead project? --Picard102 17:32, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

The project isn't dead, just not particularly active. Technically, it hasn't really gotten started yet, though a few users have silently edited WP to add new Ontario-related content (for example, Bearcat). Of course, we welcome any ideas regarding this project or its promotion. Mindmatrix 19:01, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Demographics?

I'm not currently a participant in this project (is it still alive?) but I have noticed a significant number of Ontario-related articles now include a Demographics section. While I guess this information is relevant to some, I have a few issues with how it's being done:

  • Contributions seem to be anonymous and mainly from 24.226.10.98 and 24.42.42.132 with no edit summaries
  • Inconsistent formatting & terminology (e.g. "racial" vs "ethnic", "native american" vs "aboriginal", etc.)
  • Prominence (does Demographics really deserve to appear before History?)
  • Lack of references. In at least one case, Regional Municipality of Niagara, Ontario, someone has added the source as the Canada 2001 Census, however when I do my own calculations using census data the numbers don't always agree.

Thoughts? Ideally I'd love to hear from the two anonymous contributors, as it's obvious they've put a lot of work into tabulating this information. -- Darthsco 20:19, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

I hear ya, I'm having a similiar problem in the Hamilton, Ontario article where an editor wants to include figures that have no cited source and are not in the 2001 census. It doesn't seem useful to me to give a discussion on demographics in an article as they are frequently changing, easily linked to on a statscan site and tend to produce a lot of debate over accuracy and under representation. I know one fellow was calling them rascist on the talk page. Your thoughts? Alan.ca 10:14, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

We have had that problem all over the place - at one time, there were 3 different population numbers on the article for Markham. The best answer is to write the data in its full context, ie "according to the 2001 census, etc.". Other population data is OK as long as it is referenceable, so population numbers on roadsigns should be avoided. PKT 17:04, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mapit

Canadian mapit tag (example for Midland, Ontario)

--Aou 19:14, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ontario Mental Health Act

I recently created this article, I think it would be great if someone could take a look over and offer suggestions for improvement. I think there's still lots to do here and the redlinks indicate more articles that could be created. Thanks Matt 01:10, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team cooperation

Hello. I'm a member of the Version 1.0 Editorial Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing articles using these criteria, and we are are asking for your help. As you are most aware of the issues surrounding your focus area, we are wondering if you could provide us with a list of the articles that fall within the scope of your WikiProject, and that are either featured, A-class, B-class, or Good articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Do you have any recommendations? If you do, please post your suggestions at the listing of all active Places WikiProjects, and if you have any questions, ask me in the Work Via WikiProjects talk page or directly in my talk page. Thanks a lot! Titoxd(?!? - help us) 18:29, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Volunteer recognition

  • The Canadian Content Award
    The Canadian Content Award
    This is for outstanding contributions to Canadian related pages on Wikipedia.


[edit] Canadian city naming convention

To try to get a good consensus, I am posting at all Canadian regional wikiprojects: Wikipedia talk:Canadian wikipedians' notice board#Canadian city naming convention. Thanks! -- Usgnus 21:45, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Provincial stub categories

Provincial Stub Proposals - Should templates and stub categories be created for Alberta, Saskatchewan and Newfoundland & Labrador? (See related SFD discussion regarding N.B., PEI, and Manitoba (plus the territories)). Agent 86 02:38, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the "Western Ontario" stub, the official name for this part of the province is "Southwestern Ontario". Western Ontario is an outdated name partly because it can be confused with Northwestern Ontario. I think the name of the stub should be changed. Jc8025 19:08, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I need help with article Kristen French

I wrighte article about Kristen on cs.wikipedia, but I am frustrated from to small part of article, which is related to her life befor kidnaping. May be, these infromations are on internet and I can not find it (as You see, my english is really primitive :-). Please, help me! If you find, what I need, give me link. If you have (solid) newpapers with this or tape with this, contact me, please.

The second problem: I need Image for article. On internet are many Images (1, 2, but I am afraid to be thinking about copyright od this Images is works for very crazzy men. And If You have Image PD or GFDL, please, I need it_ :-).

After all, These things will be good for these article to. If you will improve en: article, I'll improve cs: article too... :-). Cinik 18:38, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I need help too with articles:

  • Green Ribbon Trail
  • Green Ribbon of Hope Campaign
  • Child Find Canada

Cinik 18:51, 7 August 2006 (UTC) I see the difficulty you're facing, as per the AfD nom. I will do some research and attempt to put some cited sources in the document. I will also add the page to the biography project.Alan.ca 06:58, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 18:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] York Region Road Construction Project

The referenced project has been linked to Regional Municipality of York, Ontario, not a bad thing in itself but when I checked the project page, my concern began. The author seems to want to compartmentalize York Region's road network, which I think is ill-advised since roads are built to connect municipalities. Any opinions on how, or whether, to address this? PKT 02:45, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hamilton, Ontario and subs

We could really use some help at the Hamilton, Ontario article. Does this project have a peer review process or would someone advise where we should start? Alan.ca 10:12, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hamilton Article for deletion

Last week, I discovered that the stub entry for downtown Hamilton's historic MacNab Street Presbyterian Church (Hamilton) was given the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bayside Community Church nomination, in a "Mass Afd" centering on a number of Churches...I don't have the time at present to expand the stub, but if anyone has any input for the Afd (preferably KEEP), be aware this Hamilton feature is in limbo!! Bacl-presby 01:20, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Comment: If we don't start sourcing our statements in the Hamilton articles I imagine there are going to be more nominations. I flag articles on other topics frequently for deletion that lack sources. I think the wikipedia community has been extremely tolerant with our articles considering how few of them have been deleted. If we need a concerted effort, it's not to dispute the AfDs, but to get atleast one well included source in each article. Alan.ca 12:29, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
  • ARTICLE DELETED, however, I've placed an appeal...hopefully that some folks here in Ontario might have concerns; for some reason, it was a someone from Oakland, California who pulled the article...guess we all remember the California Golden Seals?? Bacl-presby 18:20, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
If it was the article I saw, which only included a list of the ministers of the church, then the deletion was appropriate. An article about the church ought to point out its historic or architectural importance. PKT 19:29, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Geography sections uncited

I am having a difficult time citing sources in the sections/articles related to Geography. I have searched many other cities around the world and it seems to be a common problem. If anyone has any suggestions on how we can overcome this problem I would appreciate their assistance. Alan.ca 12:32, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Provincial templates update

Should the provincial templates be updated with the standard {{Navbox generic}} layout? Please comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Canada#Province templates. --Qyd 23:17, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 21:51, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Greater Toronto Area

I just realized that Category:GTA was resurrected, despite having been deleted in July. It is poorly populated (again). Do we need it? If so, I'm concerned that it doesn't seem to have any structure, and would strongly recommend that it should sort of adopt the existing categories for Toronto, York, Durham, Peel, Halton, etc. as its subcategories. If we don't need it, let's have it deleted. Opinions? PKT 17:12, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Julia Munro

Greetings! I come under the auspices of WikiProject Abandoned Articles, a project designed to bring abandoned articles that have not been edited for a number of years back to life. One such is Julia Munro, which by the looks of things seems to have a lot of outdated information, as well as not being perticularly informative. So if anybody would be able to spare some time, knowledge and expertise in bringing it back to life and expanding on it, it would be much appreciated. Lord Pheasant 05:57, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Ms. Munro is my MPP, and she is not a particularly active one. She's an opposition backbencher these days, and consequently does not make much news. I would agree that the article could use more biographical detail. PKT 20:50, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
  • So, with Belinda in thev federal scene, it notes that Newmarket-Aurora is a VACANT Provincial seat (no by-election like in Markham, Burlington, and York South-Weston this coming Thursday)...

What gives??? Bacl-presby 22:57, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Newmarket-Aurora isn't a Provincial riding (yet). See this and this. PKT 00:50, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Fine, it looks like someone wrote her off in past tense; I've revised it..... Bacl-presby 00:56, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hamilton, Ontario

I removed your project banner from the talk page for Hamilton, Ontario because it does not support a small version. Please look at other project banners to develop a small version of your talk page banner and then re-add it to this talk page. 22:50, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redirects

  1. Government of Ontario redirects to Politics of Ontario.
  2. Ontario government redirects to Legislative Assembly of Ontario.

The articles link to each other at the top, but for the sake of consistency they should redirect to the same one. Which? –Pomte 13:24, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I think Government of Ontario, Government in Ontario, and Politics of Ontario should be split up. If it is decided to keep them in one place, the title Government and politics of Ontario would seem appropriate to me. I think we should find a place to coordinate the discussion for all of Canada. I've left a move request on WP:Canada suggesting a discussion at Category talk:Politics of Canada. If you think Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Canada (or some other place) would be better, then you can start the discussion there and I'll leave a note on Category talk:Politics of Canada directing people there. Joeldl 21:48, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Government of Ontario should be its own article, referencing the Legislative Assembly and Politics articles. It shouldn't redirect to either one. PKT 22:19, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
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