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[edit] Welcome to the Dialysis Unit

We're ready to start washing!

Welcome to Wikiproject Nephrology, and I hope we can improve the quality of kidney disease related articles, as well as add to the database of articles.

Your comments/suggestions are invited.

Nephron  T|C 04:39, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Living unrelated donor transplantation and Living anonymous donor transplantation

Interesting and hot topics currently. Probably enough for their own articles or significant section in kidney transplantation. PMID 16549137, PMID 16423173, PMID 16398708, PMID 12603214 -- Samir धर्म 06:12, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I remember hearing an interesting story about that on the CBC a while back. Tons to write about on that subject. One topic to add to the list... along with writing an article about the sale of organs/buying organs. Nephron  T|C 02:33, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MARS

Anyone have a picture of MARS / liver dialysis for the Hepatorenal syndrome article (and, I guess, the liver dialysis article)? -- Samir धर्म 06:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HRS

I expanded Hepatorenal syndrome tonight, but I think I made it too technical. I've also written it with an admitted GI bias (almost all refs are from the hepatology literature). Would appreciate if anyone gets a chance to review it. Thanks -- Samir धर्म 09:02, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dialysis

I think that the dialysis articles are fairly good, do we think that they need much improvement, or should they be taken off the needs improvement list? The transplantation article is diabolical so I've bunged it on the list too, as I lack the moral fibre to start editing tonight...Felix-felix 18:53, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I put 'em on the list 'cause they could be much better and 'cause (with a million people on dialysis worldwide[1] --and the numbers increasing, but awareness among the public low[2]) I think they are the sort of stuff that could make it to the main page. Nephron  T|C 07:16, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 00:17, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:MEDMOS needs YOU!

The Manual of Style (Medicine-related articles) is entering a critical stage: I'm informing people to visit the page, make corrections where possible, and then state there support or disagreements on the talk page, so we can see if there is consensus to turn this proposed guideline into a consensus-supported guideline.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:33, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 18:14, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merging azotemia and uremia... ?

I put-up the merge tags. I think it would make sense to merge the two articles. Comments can be made on Talk:uremia. Nephron  T|C 21:13, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Food, diet, and dialysis

I think that an article about food, diet, and dialysis is missing. It will be util. Something like this one. GermanX 13:45, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I have no objection personally, but I do wonder if it a HOWTO guide-- something WP is NOT (WP:NOT). Nephron  T|C 01:57, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Yep, perhaps an article on the principles of renal dietetics (although my skin crawls at the thought of even reading it, let alone editing it..) but not a recipe article, which the nephrology project seems to be plagued by (as well as step by step guides..)Felix-felix 08:53, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Categories - Nephrology, Kidney diseases, Renal dialysis

GermanX has been changing the categories of many nephrology articles.

I'd like to open a discussion about that because I'm wonder whether it is useful to subdivide the nephrology category. For technical reasons I think it sometimes easier to go with 'nephrology' than 'kidney diseases' -- acute renal failure for instance is often not a kidney disease per se... it is caused by another event i.e. hypovolemia, benign prostatic hypertrophy, blocked urinary catheter. Thoughts on the above would be appreciated. I'm not categorically opposed to subdividing the nephrology category--- but I think it should be planned-out a bit/discussed. I look forward to your comments. Nephron  T|C 06:28, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

  • I think that the nephrology category must be subdivided in order to organize and group similar subjects (and not having all of them "mixed" and cluttering the main category). If, for example, I am interested on some article about a specific kidney disease and If all articles are in nephrology category, then it will be difficult to find it. It will be easy to have a subcategory for "kidney diseases" to isolate its articles from articles about "kidney anatomy", that belong to other very specific category.
  • Having articles in subcategories give us another very useful advantage, we can put the whole category in more than one place. For example, We can put Category:Kidney diseases into Category:Nephrology, and also inside Category:Diseases, and if in the future someone wants to put all kidney diseases into another category, he or she only has to move the whole category that comprises all the articles instead of moving each one at a time. This gives a great flexibility.
  • Additionally, categories not only organizes and group articles, they are useful for navigating too. I can go from nephrology to its subcategories and viceversa very easily.
  • I agree with you that categorizing articles should be planned out and discussed. I'm not the best one to categorize them (I'm not a physician). But I created these categories because I think the Category:Nephrology is a little bit messed and it has sufficient number of articles to justify grouping them in subcategories.
  • I also agree with you that it is necessary to fix the mistakes you mentioned above (and others) about wrongly classifying articles in the bad category. GermanX 13:48, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Is there a way of displaying the sub-categories and categories together? The advantage of putting things in "nephrology" is they are all together... and if one clicks on the category one has the whole list-- like an appendix of a book. As for the subdividing... I think it would be good to go with something derived from the nephrology template-- i.e. a division based on the anatomy of the kidney. The other things I'm wondering about is-- whether it might be good to just include articles in the subcategory and category, i.e. post-infectious glomerulonephritis is included in the "nephrology" category and the category "glomerulonephritis". I'm going to leave message for User:Felix-felix... perhaps they will have a few more comments... Nephron  T|C 02:59, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Personally, I'd just leave everything in a single large category, I don't really see what subdividing into smaller (and necessarily arbitary) subcategories achieves, except making the subject more complex to navigate around. It's not like we're drowning in articles, so why bother?FelixFelix talk 23:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Low-protein diet

Please see the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine#Low-protein diet on the above article. --Bduke 22:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)