Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Morocco

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Hi everyone! Any chance of reviving this project? Regards, deeptrivia (talk) 00:51, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

I have no idea, but there are some peculiar articles listed on the front page. (Collounsbury 18:32, 1 March 2006 (UTC))
We're planning to get it going. Please consider joining. deeptrivia (talk) 18:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Here a voice. Can't promise huge work, but by little steps one can get thuings move. Cheers wikima 12:19, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi guys. Just to let you know that many articles has been created. Please let's expand them together. The following table is a recapitulation of the work done w/ remarks: -- Szvest 18:45, 27 May 2006 (UTC) Wiki me up™
Definitely would like to join the effort. I'm in Meknes and can definitely provide photos and info (have also published one book on Morocco) alifbaa

NOTE: Table moved to the main page. Szvest 19:52, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Wikiproject Country Studies

I've been working on Wikipedia:WikiProject Library of Congress Country Studies, a Wikiproject designed to incorporate the Library of Congress Country Studies into Wikipedia. The Country Studies are in the public domain, so the text may be freely used here. The Country Studies program has just released a profile on Morocco with information on Morocco's history, society, economy, and other topics. See the profile here. I have been using the profile's text and information. If you would like to use text from the profile, please update the Morocco subpage for the Wikiproject. This allows other editors to see what still needs to be done. Thanks, I would appreciate any help with importing the Morocco profile into Wikipedia.--Bkwillwm 07:50, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the info BKw! Much appreciated. -- Szvest 12:57, 17 May 2006 (UTC) Wiki me up™


[edit] The whole information relating to Morocco represents a rewriting of history

Essentially by not including that what you dont want to remember. It is superficial at best, and criminaly dishonest at worst.

In relation to the article on Morocco:

It can be argued that the last 50 years in Morocco’s history have been the most relevant as it has become an independent country and has had a belligerent foreign policy with its neighbours, Algeria and western Sahara.

How come the only link to the green march is in the Geography section and is not mentioned in the history??? How come there is no link AT ALL in the article to the sand war

How come that the hundreds of victims of 30 years of repression are written of with a couple of lines: " Hassan II became King of Morocco on March 3, 1961. His rule would be marked by political unrest, and the ruthless government response earned the period the name "the years of lead"."

If you visit the article on Hassan II you get a little bit more of information, but why is this information not included in the main article about Morocco??? Is it only of interest to the personality of Hassan II??

Why is there no mention of the reasons for this political unrest, and the civil and student protest marches that were brutally dissolved by police? Why is there no mention of the extensive use of torture against dissidents? Why isn't there a reference to Tazmarat and other concentration camps to which these where sent?

One aspect of Moroccan torture is that the King is "the giver of light" so many of those imprisoned are submitted to entire years at a time without any light...

Even important aspects of its pre-independence history are ignored. From the ethnological map you can see that Morocco is mainly divided by Arabs in the Plains and Berebers in the mountains. For hundreds of years tribal relations prevailed and when there was disagreement conflict would arise, with a deadlock, as the mountains proved superb defence positions. It was only until the French arrived and set up an effective road system to move troops around, that the country could finally be ruled under one unified leadership.

Why is there no mention about this??

All the questions I pose are discussed at length in Gilles Perrault Notre ami le roi ISBN 2070326950.

Other books are: Stolen Lives: Twenty Years in a Desert Jail (Talk Miramax Books, April 2001)

And Oufkir, un destin marocain (Calmann-Lévy) published by Stephen Smith, formerly African correspondent for the French newspaper Libération and now working for the prestigious daily Le Monde. http://www.nd.edu/~romlang/news/oufkir.html

Conclusion

The rule under Hassan II was oppressive and repressive, he killed thousands for various reasons, and several attempts where made on his life, mainly from his own military. He started wars with Algeria when they where weak, just after their independence. He took over Western Sahara when Spain was weak, creating a conflict that is raging today.

That this dark history of modern Morocco is dispatched in the article with a couple of passing comments is shameful. We may have an excellent encyclopaedic article, but it is useless if it says nothing.

There are thousands of words to be written, but it seems that Hassan II has done a good job and the truth is buried and forgotten to the majority of its people and the international community. What will happen if I add this information to the page?? Will the Moroccan press (censorship) office come in and delete it?? I wouldn’t be surprised if this comment disappears on Monday.


  • Your saying is too onesided. All countries/Chief of states have their dark sides.
  • Make (constructive) suggestions for change / compeltion in this page and lets see
  • Wikipedia is common work. The remark on Moroccan *censorichip* is just absurd.
wikima 19:21, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Natural Wonders of Morocco

I tested Wikipedia's coverage of Natural Wonders of the World, and Morocco had the most missing articles besides Spain:

Although I searched, it's possible that some of these might exist under alternate names. If not, put them on your "to do" list. —Keenan Pepper 20:32, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 15:01, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Marrakech sections

Hello,

I've noticed that the page on Marrakech could use some work. The biggest problem is the Sites section, which provides several lists, but no descriptions/explanations at all. Most of the things listed can be removed, and the ones that remain should be described and explained in detail.

I am not a member of this WikiProject, and don't know much about Morocco. If someone has the time and knows the correct information, please fix it up.

Twas Now 09:50, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 20:00, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

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