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[edit] Day of the Dead?

Is the Spanish-language translation "El Día de los Muertos" or "Día de Muertos"? BlankVerse ∅ 09:06, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

you can omit the article "El", and leave it as "Día de Muertos". Nanahuatzin 06:45, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
I asked my wife about this, and she agrees Dia de muertos is correct. However, she also noted that 1 November is Día de niños and 2 November is Día de difuntos (adult dead). I'd also note that in Spanish only the first letter of a sentence and proper nouns are capitalized. Tubezone 03:45, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team cooperation

Hello. I'm a member of the Version 1.0 Editorial Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing articles using these criteria, and we are are asking for your help. As you are most aware of the issues surrounding your focus area, we are wondering if you could provide us with a list of the articles that fall within the scope of your WikiProject, and that are either featured, A-class, B-class, or Good articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Do you have any recommendations? If you do, please post your suggestions at the listing of all active Places WikiProjects, and if you have any questions, ask me in the Work Via WikiProjects talk page or directly in my talk page. Thanks a lot! Titoxd(?!? - help us) 18:35, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I would like to join

Hello, I've been a Wikipedian for most than a year, and I would like to join this project. I think that I could significantly contribute to expand it. User:Lufthmark


[edit] Mexican cuisine

1) the stub/category combination, {{Mexico-cuisine-stub}} / Cat:Mexican cuisine stubs, is currently listed for deletion at Stub types for deletion. My personal opinion is that it shouldn't be too hard to fill up the stub category just by creating articles for all the redlinks in the list in the Mexican cuisine article.

2) For the Mexican cuisine article itself, it would be very helpful to add some annotations to the list of Traditional dishes, and maybe even divide the list into various subcategories. BlankVerse 08:45, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mexican crime article nominated for deletion

User:Robert talan created an article on Mexican crime. That article has now been nominated for deletion. If that article is deleted, the content will probably be merged here. Please read the AfD and express your opinion.

--Richard 23:37, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

This article is no longer slated for deletion. It is getting some attention to make it into a serious article worthy of Wikipedia. Originally, the text was unsourced and tending towards a POV attack on Mexico. It is now a more objective treatment of the serious problem that Mexico has with crime.

--Richard 04:51, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

It's still got a serious POV problem, but mostly because of the difference between how crimes are reported in the USA vs. Mexico. For example, the bank robbery rate in Mexico is infintesimal compared to the USA, but there's few head to head statistical comparisons that I can find. The homicide rate in Mexico is going to include traffic accident deaths (all traffic deaths in Mexico are considered crimes) that don't get counted as actual violent homicides in the USA. AAMOF, the homicide rate reported in the USA is questionable because what qualifies as a homicide varies from state to state, for example, in some states a drunk-driving death is a negligent homicide, in others it may not be. Mexico follows the French model, thanks to Juarez, thus does not have the delineation between felonies and misdemeanors the English model contries like the USA has.
I did update the the crime statistics columns and added a column for comparable US statistics.Tubezone 04:07, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Juarez needs work

Ciudad Juárez needs a lot of work. There's a decent enough history but almost nothing about the city today. --Dhartung | Talk 07:12, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Human geography

Is Mexico part of North America, Central America, or what? And do we abide by the United Nations geoscheme, or conventional usage, or National Geographic?

Do the Spanish-speaking world and English-speaking world disagree over where to "place" this wonderful country? I tried to follow the dispute between Wikipedians over this matter, but it's scattered all over your web site. --Wing Nut 16:17, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mexico vs México

Now, is there a big reason for the México article redirecting to Mexico and not the other way? It's customary to name mexican cities, states, etc with the proper accented title, but the main article about the country is the opposite. Is there a good reason for that? Is there a problem if I switch them? -- Drini 00:29, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Mexico (without the accent) is how the country is known in English, so that's the name used as per the MoS. Other less known towns/places may keep the original spelling of their name. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 14:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 18:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mexican American War

This article has lots of facts and background, but only for the American side. It needs more information on Mexican strategies, personalities, etc. I suggest peer reviewing it. Kevlar67 02:54, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question: The Nine Flowers of Christmas

A new user posted the article The Nine Flowers of Christmas. Google returns no matches for "Nine Flowers of Christmas" (including the quotation marks). Is this article true? Fg2 06:25, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I have never heard about that. At least thats not a tradition in Jalisco, Tamaulipas or Nuevo Leon where I have lived. I believe article isnt true. Abögarp 00:28, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Final (?) two missing articles for places in Mexico with populations > 100,000

The Wikipedia:Missing articles for towns and cities with 100,000 or more inhabitants project has identified two places in Mexico which appear to have current populations of more than 100,000 and do not have articles in the English-language Wikipedia.

They are:

Would anyone be interested in creating articles for these places? -- The Anome 11:15, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 21:57, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of taco fillings

List of taco fillings has been nominated for deletion, along with List of burrito fillings. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of taco fillings. BlankVerse 09:21, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mexico is a North American country vandal

I want to desperately ask for the community support in this issue. Ever since I joined Wikipedia this very specific user is trying to promote the false idea that Mexico is geopolitically part of Central America, or trying to give the idea that Mexico is considered part of Central America (geographically) most of the times. We all know that is not true.

It is impossible to me to stop his very biased edits. I know that some geographers consider the territory east of Isthmus of Tehuantepec physiographically part of Central America, but his biased edits and the words he uses are only to confuse the reader and give the "feeling" that Mexico is part of Central America.

First of all check the articles Mexico, Geography of Mexico, Central America and North America. Also Mesoamerica and Middle America. I know some of you can clean up the words he's using to give the bad impression that Mexico is part of CA.

Secondly, please check my evidence about his behaviour.

User Corticopia (his current user account) is the same person that used the accounts User:E Pluribus Anthony, User:Cogito ergo sumo, User:Ex post factoid, User:Lucky Mustard and User:A the 0th. His edits follow the same pattern: ignore the evidence provided to prove that in some parts of the world America is considered a single continent (and that North America = Canada, US and Mexico), ignoring that Central Americans do not consider Mexico part of this region, ignoring that in most educational systems Mexico is not included in Central America.

When he could not fight the overwhelming evidence proving him wrong (and after I won a case of suckpuppetry against him [1] and [2]), he started editing the articles in order to say "Mexico is in southern North America", and lately to avoid saying "North America" at all and including the less used and very obscure term "Middle America". Please check the articles those accounts edit. The very same pattern.

Please check the evidence I provide to probe those users are Corticopia here. It is very important that you read the whole evidence.

However, if you chose to ignore the evidence I present (I do it so you can understand how long and how deep this problem is) please just help to clean up the articles. It is very frustrating that only me and other user are trying to avoid bias in Mexico-related articles. PLEASE HELP! AlexCovarrubias ( Let's talk! ) 06:10, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Alex, I thought this issue was already settled down, especially after the poll, to which Corticopia and all participants fully agreed in Talk:Mexico. At least, on my part, I have already told you, if you believe your evidence is strong enough, then simply report him for sock puppetry yourself.
Now, per consensual agreement in Talk:Mexico (it might not be the case in other articles in which he is participating), the introductory paragraph will only state that Mexico is located in North America, whereas the Geography section will contain, all possible existing neutral geographical terms and definitions (ergo NPOV): geopolitical, geographical and physiographical, and that included "Middle America". This term, which I don't particularly like, is widely used in geography in the English speaking world, so it is not obscure. It is in fact used by CIA Factbook. It is rather in disuse, but nonetheless, existing. As such, it was included in the Geography section.
--theDúnadan 16:31, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I understand what you're saying. As I told you, I'm not accusing him of sockpuppetry since he's using just one account right now (that I know). I am presenting my evidence for the users to know he's a well known user, famous for using personal attacks, editing articles with particular bias and also by using sockpuppets. However, talking about "Middle America", it is very obvious that his edits and his wording are only to favour the wrong idea that Mexico is part of CA. Please check the recent edits in the articles Central America, Mesoamerica and Geography of Mexico where he's not commited to write in a very direct way that Mexico is not considered geopolitically part of CA. He reverts my edits. And about "Middle America", I am not saying it does not exist. It does. The important thing here is he's favouring the terms that are not widely used, just to give the impression that terms are the ultimate knowledge. And more importantly, why the article Mexico (geography section) have almost half a paragraph explaining what Central America is according to the different souces? That should be placed in the proper article, not in Mexico. AlexCovarrubias ( Let's talk! ) 23:44, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
The paragraph is not giving the definitions of Central America per se, but the definitions of Central America vis-à-vis Mexico, the country that happens to be the defining parameter of both regions (whether its the border, the isthmus or a transvolcanic belt). If Mexico's geographical, geological and physiogracial location is what gives North America and Central America their limits, it is quite obvious that these definitions should be included. Think of it the other way around, instead of saying "Central America starts at the isthmus..." you can say "North America ends at the isthmus..." same thing. Corticopia does not favor any term over any other term. After all the introduction only says "North America", whereas the Geography section elaborates on the limits of North America and Central America, and specifies a location in the geographical term "Middle America". I find it quite neutral to include all possible definitions and not just "favouring" one (North America). --theDúnadan 04:10, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
If the information should be presented in a very netural way, then the subarticle Geography should include the most extended usage, Mexico is in North America, then Mexico is partly in Central America and finally the alternate use of Mexico is in Middle America. Check the article North America, it already uses that logical order: the most extended version to the less used and finally the alternate version. It is not a matter of favoring "North America" over "Central America", just a logical order that the subsection do not follow. Insted of that, it first uses the concept of "Americas" by saying Mexico is in the middle latitudes of the Americas, then it says "southern North America". Corticopia always favored and even denied the conception of a single continent. Contradictory... AlexCovarrubias ( Let's talk! ) 10:44, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
If it is just a matter of order, then I see no problem in changing it, as long as we include all. --theDúnadan 18:18, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request for assistance with Valley of Oaxaca

Hey all - I recently created an article for the Valley of Oaxaca and am looking for help in expanding it. Unfortunately, I'm a Meso archaeologist by training, and am largely unfamiliar with a number of details concerning the valley. Specifically, the article needs a geography section and a dicussion on the more recent history - i.e., the later phase of Spanish rule through the modern era. Geographically speaking, information is needed on the geological formation of the valley and generaly geography - climate, hydrology (I can't seem to find it, but what are the names of the rivers that run through the valley?), land area, population statistics, etc. Any info/help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance, -- Oaxaca dan 14:36, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

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