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[edit] Wikilinking names

Because the standard is to only link names one a page one time, the featured list candidacy brought up the issue of having the name of the person who dedicated the temple wikilinked everywhere. Since we are using templates it would be difficult to not wikilink it everywhere.

However, we could include a parameter in the call to the list format like {{Talk:Los Angeles California Temple/data |format = LDS Temple list | dedicated_link = No | groundbreaking_link = Yes}} or soemthing like that. Then we would wikilink automatically (rather than requiring the data page to have the wikilink. Any other thoughts? --Trödel 09:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Only issue is questions surrounding what happens when a editor not familiar with templates tries to update in one location, will it auto update in all? Say he updates the list page with hard edits, will it throw everything else off? other than that, love the proposal. -Visorstuff 17:08, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes - that is the main reason for doing this :) - so that one making a change will update it for all the articles that reference the data. As to what an unfamiliar pwerson will see - if they try to edit a page where he sees the data it will look like this (for a list)

{{Talk:Kirtland Temple/data | format=LDS Temple list}}
{{Talk:Nauvoo Temple/data | format=LDS Temple list}}
=== Operating Temples ===
{{Talk:Saint George Utah Temple/data | format=LDS Temple list}}
{{Talk:Logan Utah Temple/data | format=LDS Temple list}}
{{Talk:Manti Utah Temple/data | format=LDS Temple list}}
{{Talk:Salt Lake City Temple/data | format=LDS Temple list}}
...

Or for a temple page it will look like this:

{{Talk:Salt Lake City Temple/data | format=Infobox LDS Temple}}
begin text of article 

So the data will look like it auto-magically appears. However, my plan is to put small edit links in the row or infobox. Not sure where though - common way is to use v d e (for view, discuss, edit) in the infobox for instant access to the data. See Template:Canelections for an example. I was thinking of something like edit which would link to the Data template instead of the three links since that would be more obvious what the links does.

I don't love "VDE," but do like "edit" as an alternative. Love the idea. -Visorstuff 18:25, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

OK - I'll use edit - thx for the feedback - I'll implement the first 10 temples. --Trödel 19:22, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

The date format should be defined. I believe it was suggested that it be YYYY-MM-DD so it can be sortable on sortable lists. This is fine, but the template should have some logic to convert it to [[Month DD]], [[YYYY]]. Can we even do sortable tables with this format? Bytebear 04:38, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

The ISO standard names will format according to a persons preferences ("My Preferences" under the Date/Time tab) as long as they are wikilinked like this: [[YYYY-MM-DD]]. I.e. 2006-12-25 wikilinked will appear as 25 December 2006 for me because that is my preference and will appear as December 25, 2006 for most people since that is the default preference.

Unfortunately, they are sorted based on how the data appears on the page - so they have to be in the YYYY-MM-DD format on the comparison list page. See examples for first 10 temples on the list and temple article pages. --Trödel 06:29, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Clarification on the comparison page - if they are wikilinked they will sort April then August for people with the default date display preference. Or for me they will sort according to the day of the month rather than the year. --Trödel 14:02, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] coordinates

I added coordinates to the Talk:Ogden_Utah_Temple/data page - I used the {{coor d|41.226958|N|111.972036|W|}} template; I used the Goggle Maps API which gave me -111.972036,41.226958,0 which after some tinkering discovered was to be marked up as 41.226958|N|111.972036|W. It appears the temples template doesn't yet use this info; here is a sample of the output of the coor d template: 41.226958° N 111.972036° W

MeekMark 15:51, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Ahhh, the coordinates template appears in the heading of the article, sometimes, not in the infobox! :( I added the coor d template to the Talk:Los Angeles California Temple/data and now there is a coordinates link at the top of Los Angeles California Temple, but there is no coordinates link in the Ogden Utah Temple so I guess it is the template style? If the community doesn't like where it appears, feel free to revert. I brewed up a simple web page that accepts a "123 Street Name, City, State" and returns a coor d to cut/paste at http://meekmark.com/cgi-bin/google_api3.cgi MeekMark 16:16, 1 January 2007 (UTC)