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[edit] Update the main towns.

Here is my suggestion for a task. Getting all the Kent towns up to "B" standard. The ultimate goal would be Featured articles, but one step at a time. There is a category Category:Towns in Kent from which I produced the table below. If we agree, then we can put this on the main page.

  • Delete any Non-Towns from the table, add any that have been missed.
  • Update the table with the current state of the articles.
  • Create our own Kent rating template.
  • Add template to town talk pages (Hopefully attracting people to this project).
  • Assess non-rated articles.
  • Re-assess UK geography articles.
  • Once we have a list of things to do, we start editing. (After further discussion on standards).
Category:Towns in Kent
Town Active Rating Assessor Assessment Date Infobox Next Requirement
Ashford, Kent Yes Start UK Geography 24 Aug 06 Yes Create "People from..." paragraph and move list of people to a new page
Broadstairs No Start UK Geography Yes
Canterbury No Start UK Geography Yes
Chatham, Kent No Start UK Geography Yes
Whitstable

Active = Judging by the history, are there people currently trying to improve the article.
Rating, Assessor, Date = Articles current rating as per Wikipedia Quality Scale, who assessed the page and date, to keep track of progress.
Infobox = Does the article have the town infobox.

Are there any more columns that would be useful? MortimerCat 01:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Table and idea looks good. What will appear in the date column? Do you think we need a column for who is actively working on a page? and whether a assessment/reassessment has been requested? Olive Oil 17:39, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

My intention was to put an assessment date, so we can reassess after six months maybe. A assessment flag would be good or maybe just put REQUEST in the date column? Not sure about the current editor column. If someone stakes a claim that may discourage other editors. How about a "This article needs" column, where we put in requests for photographs, or someone to write about local politics?

I have put a table onto the main page, and I will be filling in the details shortly. I am only putting in the columns that show how we can get involved. The status will be my own quick assessment based on Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements using the grades of Wikipedia Quality Scale. This will give us an idea of the current state, and maybe we can come up with official grading rules later. MortimerCat 22:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Rochester appears to be missing- but Canterbury (a city) is there !?

Updated, welcome aboard - Olive Oil -ŢάĽɮ - 15:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Our own Kent rating standards

Our own ratings would be good for more active people but we shouldn't rate our own writing, a third party viewpoint would be better. I think an overview of the article would be better guidance as to where to work next - i.e Basic (e.g only 1 paragraph) - Formatted (e.g article sections) - Started (ready for the first level of rating), perhaps we could agree standards. Olive Oil 20:47, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I agree that we do not rate our own articles and have a simplistic guide instead. Earlier, I noticed Wikipedia:WikiProject Devon were adding their project box to lots of articles. I first thought about a twinning arrangement, we review their articles, they review ours. That led me to something I have mentioned before - Wikipedia:WikiProject_England. This would be really useful if it was to be an active meeting place for all the county projects. MortimerCat 01:07, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The template

I have created a template, borrowed from Devon.

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Kent, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics connected with Kent. If you would like to participate, you can visit the WikiProject Kent project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks.
Portal:Kent
 Kent Portal

The following changes have been suggested to improve this article:

  • no suggestions have been made

You can update this list by editing this page and changing the suggestions parameter of this template.

To use, just add {{WikiProject Kent }} to the talk page of any Kent based article. Later reviewers, whoever they may be, can fill in suggestions.

I think adding the template is good but we should make suggestions, rather than just the blank template, or perhaps we should suggest looking at Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography#Resources and guidelines Olive Oil 08:10, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kent Portal selected pictures.

I have made the selected picture on the Portal:Kent change automatically each week. I now need help in creating the list of choices. Please visit Portal talk:Kent/Pictures to help out. MortimerCat 01:32, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Are we going to vote for the pictures? or do we just need 53 to use? can we have text with each of the pictures (if so perhaps the nominators should write a sentence)? Olive Oil 08:04, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

This no longer applies, we have a random picture system now. MortimerCat 19:37, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I think from looking at reviews of other portals we need to credit the photos, below the picture but above any text i.e
Credit: website text, User:Name ?
<small><center>Credit: [http://www.blah-blah.jpg website text], [[User:Name ?]]</center></small>

- Olive Oil -ŢάĽɮ - 02:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

The few random portals I just looked at do not credit photos. Beside, are not all the photos we would use are public domain and not need crediting? MortimerCat 02:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Very dependant upon the licence of the photos. some stuff doesn't require it, others do, while other photos (eg fair use) may not be usable (ie on a portal it isn't fair use as it was back in the article). Pickle 03:10, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I'll will go through the pictures and check the licences. Can you show me a Portal where they have that credit. MortimerCat 08:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
The same applies to the biography and featured article. Roger Dean, the biography which was originally static on this page, was using a debatable copyrighted image of his work. MortimerCat 08:29, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Portal:Architecture, Portal:Texas, Portal:Science are just a few of the Featured portals that credit the photos, (there are as many that don't). I didn't think about the licensing issue, I was just following suggestions for other sites after they'd had peer reviews, thinking it was polite to credit the creator. - Olive Oil -ŢάĽɮ - 08:45, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:WikiProject Kent

I've created Category:WikiProject Kent to show pages actively involved with the Kent Project, it includes the Project pages plus any pages using the {{User Wikiprojectkent}}, {{WikiProject Kent improve}} and {{WikiProject Kent}} templates. Olive Oil 13:45, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2 things

  1. a suggestion - put this on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals. Show the proposal of the project and follow the procedure.
  1. WP:RM London to Ashford to Dover Line --> South Eastern Main Line. Simply south 19:25, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I think its a bit late for the project proposal procedure! MortimerCat 20:39, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Project/Article/Area of the month

Please read/edit the seperate Article Improvement subpage.

[edit] Citations

I've created the {{FactKent}} template

 {{FactKent}}  adds a request for a citation (source information). 

Appearing as [citation needed], linking to the Citing sources Manual of Style page

used in the body of an article as a request for other editors to find citations:
1. to label a passage which is incomplete without a cited source of information
2. to label a quotation which lacks a citation

The template updates Category:WikiProject Kent Citation needed - Olive Oil - Talk 08:46, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kent discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals

Description
Improving articles related to the county of Kent in South East England
Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
  1. Olive Oil 20:48, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
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WikiProject Kent

[edit] To Do list

I've created Wikipedia:WikiProject Kent/To Do, which uses the comments added when using {{WP:Kent}}. Included are the Top and High priority articles, please add to these, but more importantly edit the articles or add comments on the Talk pages - Olive Oil -ŢάĽɮ - 15:20, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Project banners

Forgive me, for I am a complete outsider, but a couple of things. Why do you have two project banners? And do you not think {{WP:Kent}} is rather large? Seems to dwarf other banners on the same page to me - and there is enough discussion about how project banners are taking up too much space at the moment. Regards, Severo 01:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

IMHO the kent ones do look a little to big, especailly when next to some of the others (eg trains, geogrphy, etc), but not being a techy i don't know how to change it. Pickle 15:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
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