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[edit] Probelm on Kali page, please help!

I don’t even know where to begin. Recently on the Kali article, the image Kali2.JPG has repeatedly been deleted from the page on the grounds that it “doesn’t do the goddess justice” or its “grotesque”. At first there was just one, a new user named Dipendra2007, who constantly deleted the photo without first discussing it or replacing it with a new one. I left them several messages on their talk page telling them that they needed to discuss changes like that before doing anything. But time and time again they kept on doing it. I respect that this person is a great devotee of Kali, as they’ve stated she is "a multi-faceted Goddess who is at once the nurturer and shatterer, the upholder of the family as well as one who stands outside all social norms", but therein lies the problem. I believe they are trying to whitewash the page of any material that they feel reflects a negative light on Kali. I keep on telling them that the page needs to be balanced and even opened up a discussion on the talk page in an effort to get some open dialogue going. I suggested that maybe some of the pictures could be switched around. There is one picture, Image:Kaligoddess.jpg, that is still wrathful, but toned down a bit. It is already in the article. I suggested this, but no one has ever read or at least responded to that part of the discussion.

Now all of a sudden there is a new users--MrinaliniB--who has started to delete the photo without discussing it. They too have given me very POV reasons why the picture should not be on the page. I have NEVER once said that I only wanted the current picture up. I’ve stated to all three people that the pictures could be switched around, but yet they keep on deleting it. These two new users just recently created their accounts within the last day or so. I’ve tried to explain that they do not own the article and anyone can edit it, but they don’t listen. They do what they wish. I’m not sure if Dipendra2007 has created a “puppet account” or if he is enlisting people to have the image removed. Either way, that is wrong if their sole purpose on Wikipedia is to get one single picture removed.

If you visit these two editors’ talk pages you will see that I’ve been trying to come to an amiable agreement that will make ALL editors happy. Yet they resist going through the proper channels of discussion and resolvement. They just want what they want, when they want it. They don’t care. I’ve even gone to the point of issuing an idle threat of possible vandalism charges (as you will see on their talk pages) in effort to halt the deletion of the photo, while forcing them to actually engage in some kind of discussion. But that hasn’t stopped them. I told them also that any discussions about the Kali page should take place on the Kali talk page, but they continue to discuss amongst themselves on their own talk pages. This does not leave an accurate record of what is going on on the Kali page.

I therefore come to this wikiproject, which I have been member of for a while, to ask for some sort of intervention here. Please help. Thank you. (Ghostexorcist 19:09, 23 February 2007 (UTC))

The picture problem has been solved as of this morning. However, that doesn't mean there won't be a problem in the future. (Ghostexorcist 12:16, 25 February 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Ganges

I'm doing up the Ganges article. There are some sentences on Ganges in Hinduism that needs to be cited. Since this wikiproject has access to sources, could all the phrases be marked up with references ASAP? Thanks! =Nichalp «Talk»= 16:12, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

The more active page for discussing general issues on Hinduism is WT:HNB. Perhaps I should put a template up notifying non-regular members... GizzaChat © 10:46, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spam-Whitelist

Hi yall. Over at the spam whitelist we received a request for a page relating to Hinduism. I have a fairly good grasp of the larger issues involved, but in trying to evaluate the page I'm way out of my depth.

The Request can be found here: MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist#bharatatatparyanirnaya.122mb.com. Any further insight would be appreciated. Basically I'm trying to figure out if the site contains reliable information and if the commentary provided would be accepted as reliable. Thanks! ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 07:48, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't see the noticeboard. I'll cross-post this over there. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 07:49, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sathya Sai Baba movement can somebody take over?

I will probably receive a topic ban from the arbcom. I was and am the only major contributor to the article. I am looking for a replacement. The article was never controversial and there were never disputes, except about the external link section. Thanks in advance. Andries 17:01, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox creation

Is anyone willing to help create an infobox for WP:HINDU? Of course several types of infoboxes may need to be created but I'm thinking specifically of religious leaders. There is allowance for this at Wikipedia:List_of_infoboxes/Society#Religious_leaders. A Hindu-oriented infobox needs to be created (we have no Popes!) so if anyone is willing to get on this please let me know. Ekantik talk 19:23, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

We already have one. Check the templates section.--D-Boy 20:58, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] expansion

I've recently expanded the Kali (Demon) page. I only have one picture of an actor portraying this being. I would like it if other editors who had free images of him could add them to the page. Thanks. (Ghostexorcist 00:17, 8 March 2007 (UTC))

I found a very large detailed painting of King Parikshit raising his sword to kill a pleading Kali. It is very nice, but I highly doubt I could get the artist's permission to display the pic in the article. Therefore, I have just added the pic's link to the external links section. Check it out:
http://www.krsna-art.com/paints/viewImage.asp?image=KA2_094.jpg
(Ghostexorcist 05:32, 8 March 2007 (UTC))
I found another picture of Kali and it was already on wikipedia! It was in the Sacred cow article. I found a couple of books that mentioned a pamphlet that was circulated by the cow protection league which showed Kali attempting to slaughter a cow with a sword. After I read that, I remembered the image there! The picture is called Image:Cowdivine.jpg. I recently added some passages from the book to further explain the contents of the image. Despite another good find, the page still needs more pics. (Ghostexorcist 07:21, 9 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Gujarati

Can someone on here read Gujarati? If so, which part of the following phrase is the name Kali?:

કલિયુગનાં ચાર આશ્રયસ્થાન

I got it from this website. As far as I know, the term says "Kaliyuga's mainstay". I would like to have the Gujarati version of his name on the Kali (Demon) page. I think the first four or five symbols from the left are it because They look somewhat similar to his name in Devanāgarī, but of course I can't read either one. (Ghostexorcist 03:59, 8 March 2007 (UTC))

This is: કલિ Abecedare 04:08, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Is there any kind of code that I should type along with his name? The reason I ask is because his Devanāgarī name has {{lang|sa|कलि}}? (Ghostexorcist 04:32, 8 March 2007 (UTC))
I don't know Gujarati, but in Devanāgarī the name of the goddess is Kālī (काली) and in what you have written there, are both vowels long? They appear to be short. The name of the fourth age of the world uses short vowels (kali कलि) so perhaps you are copying from the source too literally. Buddhipriya 04:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
It's not the goddess. It's the similarly named male demon. (Ghostexorcist 04:32, 8 March 2007 (UTC))
I see this is irrelevant as you say. I should have looked on the page first. :( Buddhipriya 04:33, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

The code to be entered is {{lang|gu|કલિ}}. "gu" is the ISO 639-1 code for Gujarati. Abecedare 04:43, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again. (Ghostexorcist 04:46, 8 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Sri Anandamoyi Ma

The article on Sri Anandamoyi Ma is in serious shambles. Help wanted. Aditya Kabir 16:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I have made a few changes to the article. Happy editing, S.D. 19:32, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Hindu kingdoms in West Asia

I have proposed this article for deletion. Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hindu kingdoms in West Asia. deeptrivia (talk) 02:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

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