Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways/Archive 1
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Adding Mile By Mile External Links
I'm in the process of adding external links to he highway guides I've created for many North American Highway. Someone suggested that I should let the highway community know I'm doing that so they don't think I'm link spamming. I've got detailed photos and text of lots of stuff along the highways in Canada, Mexico and USA. I'd welcome your thoughts on my project and the links. If folks want to use photos (I've got thousands of lovely photos) from my highway guides, feel free to use them but do give credit. Thanks, James Love James Love 13:45, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
- From "my" web site? You are not allowed to add links to your own web site. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 22:50, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Navigation
- My primary idea is to make highway articles as navigable as (and in some cases more navigable than) the highways themselves. The easier for a user to explore a highway system the better. In a really good system, users can enjoy virtual road trips. Continue discussion on the talk page. --Spikey 02:54, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- See the message I posted on your Talk page. Ilyanep 02:59, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)
I don't know if you've seen it, but the 400-Series Highway might be a good place to start for this, at least for Canadian highways :) Adam Bishop 20:25, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
New Zealand highways have portions varying from one-lane bridges to multi-lane, multi-level urban extravaganzas.
"State Highways" are largely government-funded. See various items of legislation with names starting "Land Transport ...".
Even they show a great range of physical forms, eg the Northern Motorway out of Dunedin is part of State Highway No 1 but is just two lanes most of the way, with no median barrier.
Is this the sort of discussion-starter you want?
- robinp 04:13, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I was planning to do something with Australian Highways, particularly ones that are a part of the National Highway, and ones in Tasmania (I don't know enough about the others!). A format similar to this:
Midland Highway, Tasmania
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Still needs a bit of work.. not sure whether to use green text, white text in a green box, or replace the green letters with actual shield graphics. The letters themselves just don't seem to look right. Comments? --Chuq 13:42, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Green numbers are clear and good. Shields would be fantastic unless one's browser couldn't handle them! :robinp 21:19, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Midland Highway, Tasmania
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| Launceston - Perth - Conara - Campbell Town - Ross - Oatlands - Melton Mowbray - Brighton - Bridgewater | ||||
| Launceston joins: Bass Highway 1 (to Devonport) |
Conara joins: |
Melton Mowbray joins: |
Bridgewater joins: |
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Glad to see you like it! I've done an alternate version of the table below (showing branches along the way). I'm just hoping it doesn't look too bad on smaller resolutions (i'm on a 1600x1200 screen now) --Chuq 21:44, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Interstates
Is this the right place to discuss US Interstate issues?
I noticed that pages about interstates have a heading called 'Number of miles'. I want these pages to have metric equivalents so that non-US readers understand. A 'Number of miles' heading does not make sense with km. It should be something like 'Distance' or 'Length'. I notice that there are a *lot* of road pages and they are very non-metric. Is there a place to discuss the issue of standard headings etc?
Bobblewik 18:57, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
B-class roads and individual motorway slip roads nominated for deletion
The following articles have been nominated for deletion:
- See the project page.
Uncle G 15:12:39, 2005-08-07 (UTC)
Thanks; I have commented. --SPUI (talk) 17:27, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
The following articles have been nominated for deletion:
- See the project page.
Uncle G 12:06:36, 2005-08-11 (UTC)
The following articles have been nominated for deletion:
- See the project page.
And the folowing discussion has been begun:
- See the project page.
Uncle G 12:14:34, 2005-08-12 (UTC)
Improvement drive
The article on Transportation is currently nominated on Wikipedia:This week's improvement drive. Vote for Transportation there.--Fenice 09:11, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
Virginia Secondary Roads
In Virginia, we have Interstate and Primary highways with unique numbers. But state maintained secondary routes have a numbering system which duplicates numbers from 600 up in various parts of the state. In WP, we are just now starting to get articles on some major secondary roads, such as Virginia Secondary Route 711, which is essentially as busy as and maintained like a primary highway, but isn't one because they want to keep it a scenic byway and discourage through traffic. This is an unusual situation with 711, but I see naming conflict on the horizon for others (i.e. there could be dozens of other roads which are also a Virginia secondary route numbered 711).
The article List of Virginia numbered highways does a pretty good job of describing the conflicts we will have with names such as this one, but I don't know how else to name the article. Do we have a WP naming convention for situations such as this?
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- Mark in Historic Triangle Vaoverland 19:20, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
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It is strongly recommended that those working on articles about U.S. roads put this on your user page. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:25, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
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Articles for the Wikipedia 1.0 project
Hi, I'm a member of the Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing using these criteria, and we are looking for A-class, B-class, and Good articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Can you recommend any suitable articles? Please post your suggestions here. Thanks a lot! Gflores Talk 17:40, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- As far as the U.S., see U.S. Roads, plus maybe a few of the good state articles. Don't know about otherwise, though. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:02, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
TfD plus old category
Hi, I'm done with the disambiguated Road templates. I'll keep checking for awhile before asking that the templates themselves be deleted:
now {{disambig}}, {{2LC}}, or {{3LC}}, plus Category:Lists of roads sharing the same title.
I placed the category under Category:Streets and roads, where it should be easy to find.
I'm sorry about the earlier problems with Tedernst, who didn't follow anything like standard procedure. Since I'm not a rampant disambiguation hack and slasher, please note that the pages are intact (or as intact as Ted left some of them). I merely changed the template and added the old category.
I hope things continue more peacefully on this worthwhile project.
- --William Allen Simpson 04:52, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Med Cabal
Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-03-12 U.S. Roads. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 20:57, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation
Might as well advertise this here - I'm proposing to move the disambiguation paces like Route 1 to list of highways numbered 1. --SPUI (T - C) 18:13, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Highways... why are they Notable?
Perhaps I am in the minority here... but I feel that an encyclopedia should limit itself to things that are truly notable. Many of the highways and roads connected to this project are definitely NOT notable for any reason. Given WP:NOT, I would suggest that the members of this project come up with a criteria for why a given road or highway should be included (simple existance is not enough), and delete articles for those that do not meet this criteria. Blueboar 13:52, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
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- Someone at a Department of Transportation felt the need for a highway was important enough to have it be built and numbered. There are thousands - maybe millions - of roads in any particular state; to be assigned a number, state maintenance, and have shields put up is pretty special.
- They can serve as geographical reference points. (e.g. Maysville, Oklahoma is located at the junction of State Highway 19 and State Highway 74). Such references are more meaningful to me than Maysville is located at 34°49′3″N, 97°24′37″W (34.817489, -97.410162). I know exactly where SH-74 is; I have no clue where 97°24′37″W is.
- Someone who uses the road often may be curious about when it was built, destinations further along the route, length of the highway, and so on. Those who are unfamiliar with the road may want to know about the overall "feel" of the road; the sort of terrain, traffic, and so forth.
- Highways are an important part of local history. There is a particular curve in my town that can be rather difficult to take with oncoming traffic, rain, night, and so forth. Turns out this curve was built the way it is because this was the original intersection of two highways, where both traveled on a bridge across a river. Neither highway passes through the curve anymore, so the reason for its existance would seem puzzling without knowing about the old alignments of the two highways and the now-nonexistant bridge.
- Some people do enjoy this kind of stuff. They especially like the history of them (reroutings, highways that don't exist anymore, etc.)
- They're obviously useful, if people are citing them.
- Precedent at AFD has been to keep numbered highways. I suggest searching through old V/AFDs to find other reasons why these articles are kept. —Scott5114↗ 10:31, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
New Project Template
It may be fine internationally, but that should not go on any U.S. or Canada road articles since we have separate projects for those. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 00:37, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
List of State Highways in Tamilnadu
I don't think highways should be deleted, but it may be a good idea if they have slightly shorter article titles :-). Can someone take a look at things like Cuddalore - Nellikuppam - Panruti - Thiruvamur - Madapattu - Thirukovilur - Thiruvannamalai - Polur - Vellore - Katpadi - Chittoor Road and suggest perhaps a naming scheme for these roads? They have a number, so it is not that no other name is available. There is no true guideline or policy on article title length, but this is unsearchable and rather unpractical. Fram 07:40, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Highway NorthBarnStar
I have created a proposal for a Highway NorthBarnStar, to reward significant and excellent contributions to WikiProject Highways and its descendant projects. --Kitch (Talk | Contrib) 14:26, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Project directory
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 23:31, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Avoiding the term "multiplex"
I have noticed that the term "multiplex" is often used in articles to refer to a concurrency, something that I would like to propose should be avoided as per WP:NEO. This neologism only seems to be used by the road geek community, in particular this FAQ notes that it originated from a single newsgroup and that authorities generally use the more intuitive terms "concurrency" and "overlap". Often when the term is used it is linked to Multiplex (road) as if it is expected that the reader may not understand the term (and in fact said article was redirected to Concurrency (road) over a year ago). Sometimes the terms "duplex" and "triplex" are even used interchangably with "multiplex", making things even more confusing and inconsistent.
Additionally, the term "multiplex" is often used somewhat sloppily. For example, see [1]: it's used in several inconsistent forms, such as "becomes multiplexed", "is multiplexed", "has a multiplex", which can generally more fluently stated as "overlaps", "runs concurrent", "joins", etc. Krimpet 05:29, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. I'd recommend the easier-to-conjugate overlap, and said as much on talk:concurrency (road). --NE2 16:37, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Question
Single-point urban interchange was moved to the new title Single Point Interchange on January 28 by User:Dab235. There doesn't appear to have been any consensus for this move, and the user also did several other questionable page moves at the same time (including Prince George, British Columbia to "Uj", traffic circle to "The Mega-Smallest Roundabout", roundabout to "The Mega-Rotary" and mouth to "buccal cavity".) However, I wanted to raise it for discussion here, since unlike the others it is a reasonably valid alternate title, and of all Dab's page moves it's the only one that wasn't reverted within a few hours. Change back if need be (don't forget to fix the double redirects!) But please discuss. Thanks. Bearcat 11:22, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
