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[edit] Did you know: Royton

If we accept WP's definition ("A cotton mill is a factory housing spinning and weaving machinery") then Royton's claim to the last cotton mill built in the UK is probably incorrect. Carrington Viyella built a factory for spinning cotton in Atherton in 1978, see Holden, Roger N (1997). Stott and Sons: architects of the Lancashire cotton mills. Lancaster: Carnegie Publishing, p 17. ISBN 1-85936-047-5. . Mr Stephen 11:23, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Interesting. Though there are a number of sources that state the contrary. Perhaps a rephrase (in the article), that "sources suggest that....". I've added triva that I know of to get things going in that section - so it may appear a little NorthEast GM heavy which I apologise for whilst we get going. Jhamez84 17:00, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

So, does WP's definition of 'Cotton Mill' mean ... "A cotton mill is a factory housing spinning, 'and' weaving, machinery", or ... "A cotton mill is a factory housing spinning, 'or' weaving, machinery". In so much as, a factory which 'takes in thread, produced in a mill, and produces a cloth, by the process of weaving', is a 'weaving shed' and not a 'cotton mill'? 80.192.242.187 20:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC) JemmyH.

Seems like the cotton mill article itself needs a little work. We could do with a proper academic definition of a cotton mill first and foremost! Any good textile historians around? Jhamez84 11:21, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FAs

Doesn't Manchester City F.C. count? Mr Stephen 18:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New infoboxes

A new infobox has been developed for use on UK places articles. If you have any concerns or appraisals, please make them at Template talk:Infobox UK place. Regards, Jhamez84 01:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

The current outline map of Greater Manchester, which is being imposed by “Wikipedia:WikiProject Greater Manchester”, looks awful. Many of the red dots are in the wrong place. The rest of the country have the UK map in relation where they are, but not Greater Manchester, it has to have its own map.
It's now being seen as a "City region" rather than a "County". I can see that Greater Manchester is going to be the northern version of London. There aren't going to be Wiganers, Boltonians, Rochdalians, etc., even Salford, which has city status, won't get away, they'll be seen as Mancunians whether they like it or not. Cwb61 18:34, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

This is your opinion. But you are a traditional counties advocate, who has demonstrated the removal of Greater Manchester against policy from articles simply because you don't identify with it. The name of our county is an unfortunate one, but it is verifiably true that it is here.
The Gtr M/c WikiProject is not imposing this new infobox at all (!) - a consensus was formed by members from accross the UK to develop an improved infobox, as the previous one had many failings.
Most city-regions (EU terminology), major conurbations or urbanised counties (whichever you like) of the UK are set to use their own maps once the programming is worked out. Some regions also have them - Scotland, Northern Ireland and parts of the North East use them, as well as Greater London. It is possible however we may have a UK map also.
If dots are in the wrong place, this generally means that the wrong co-ordinates have been inputted in the infobox and need correcting. It is possible however that they may be slightly out - just notify users at the template talk page and someone will attempt to recalibrate the map settings.
I hope this helps somewhat. Though this should be raised at the template talk page as the infobox is not within the remit of the Gtr M/c WikiProject. Jhamez84 20:50, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox flag straw poll

Hello fellow editors. A straw poll has opened today (27th March 2007) regarding the use of flags on the United Kingdom place infoboxes. There are several potential options to use, and would like as many contrubutors to vote on which we should decide upon. The straw poll is found here. If joining the debate, please keep a cool head and remain civil. We look forward to seeing you there. Jhamez84 11:42, 27 March 2007 (UTC)