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    [edit] Good luck

    Hi. I just wanted to wish you good luck with the new WikiProject. If you haven't already, you should create a category for your project (and categorize that category), along with listing your WikiProject under Wikipedia:List of WikiProjects.--HereToHelp (talk • contribs) 00:48, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Where to start

    These would be my starting points

    (Gnevin 22:44, 14 March 2006 (UTC))

    Sounds good to me. I'm willing to help but not sure how far I can. I'm in the UK and all the Gaelic sports I see are either short highlights programmes which are hard to find on Sky Sports or when I'm in Ireland. I'll try to help where I can though. - JVG 18:11, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
    Fancy taking a stab at these pages ?

    (Gnevin 19:56, 15 March 2006 (UTC))

    I know more about Mayo GAA than I do about London GAA... - JVG 10:04, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
    List_of_Gaelic_football_clubs Here is a great place to start imo, tomorow i'll start adding categorys of each of these counties . Anyone fancy helping out ?

    (Gnevin 02:28, 16 March 2006 (UTC))

    Nominated list for speedy was mostly links to towns around Ireland (Gnevin 16:06, 17 March 2006 (UTC))
    If you ask me the club tteam list should be doen on a county by county basis, in so that way we dont have a massive national list. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 09:03, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

    I dont like lists too many red links and i think i read some where that wiki is trying to move way from them , Imo the best way going forward is add Clubs to Categorys. (Gnevin 20:08, 18 March 2006 (UTC))

    Dont belive everything you read here, While categories are good they only address article that have been created anot articles that have yet to be created, and as much as people say they dont like lists their are some ways you cant effectively display information other then having them in the list. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 04:11, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Welcome

    I just like to welcome everyone to the project, first off this is also your project, so feel free to edit things on the project as you go along, as well as put up any ideas that you might have that might improve the project or what we are trying to do here. If you have any quaestions, dont hesitate to ask, doesnt mean you will get a responce or a timely one, but hopefuly some one will be around to get you an answer. So i dont know what else to say, other then welcome. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 05:44, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

    Just another thing. if you come acorss an editor that has an intrest in Gaelic Games, either threw their editing, or threw some other mention, ie on their user page or something, make sure to invint them to join the project, if they have not be invited to do so. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 09:06, 18 March 2006 (UTC)


    [edit] Article structure

    I put up a basic article structure for the county GAA pages. It is based on what has evolved up till now. You can find it at Wikipedia:WikiProject Gaelic Games/GAA county, comments/thoughts? --Boothy443 | trácht ar 05:59, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

    Looks good, Perhaps a famous players/managers section? (Gnevin 12:57, 16 March 2006 (UTC))
    Yeah i guess that would be good for inclusion, we have to take heed that the sections dont grow to much, and if they do to parse them off into their own articles. We also have to look at how some fo the information that is currenlty on the pages that is not in the line with the format can be better intergrated into the articles. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 07:27, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
    I like that. I might not have time before I go to NYC but when I come back in a week anda bit, I will see about putting the Mayo GAA page into that format and any others if they haven't been done already. - JVG 18:45, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
    Also, if the section gets too long, there is always the option of subpages. - JVG 18:47, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
    Wel when you get a chance, no big hurry, most of the count pages need a once over to celan them up anyway, i'll put a not in the to do. As for the subpages, agree, i was trying to say that with the post above. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 09:01, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
    Just like to add that I did a bit of a job with the hurling section for the Waterford GAA page. I added the mot recent championship hurling team along with a few pages for various famous players plus the counties roll of honour for intra - county club hurling. Just a thought but it would be a nice idea to add a most recent team to most GAA Counties articles. I don't know though if the format I have is the best. User:Niall123
    Yeah looks good so far, as for the team list i like it but their are some problems that i can see coming about. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 04:11, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
    Would anyone object to changing the first history to information or background something along does lines as history doesnt suit general info such as current managers , stadiums etc (Gnevin 15:54, 27 March 2006 (UTC))
    I'd suggest that the existing articles I have worked on seem to flow better where Honours are listed in a separate section, just above any See other, References, Source, or External links. This kind of Honours section also lends itself to using bullets for readability. I can provide some examples of what this has looked like, if anyone is interested. Thanks -- Argon233 T @ C  U ∠  22:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
    Yeah sure let us have a look (Gnevin 23:30, 5 April 2006 (UTC))
    I previously did this with almost all of the Affiliated Clubs of the Kildare Gaelic Athletic Association. You can find the links to those articles in the template there. Thanks, -- 63.226.38.196 04:11, 12 April 2006 (UTC) Argon233 T @ C  U ∠  04:13, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
    First off just a note to other editors, Argon233 prewviously edited under ip addresses and the artcles in question he edited from these accounts, information on such can be found on his userpage, and he should not be confused with Ecorry, who is also suspseced of editing the same artciles from ip accounts.
    As to address the issue. I can see what you mean. Their though is a specific reason why the article structure is the way it is in the project. The current article structure is basically for the the articles concerning the county level boards/clubs, and it also has to do with the fact that the GAA is also organized on, for the most part, four coded sports. The way it is set up for the counties is to list the honours for each of the codes that the county has one. A similar way should also be kept for the clubs as well, instead of all in one section, as it is easier for persons to identify what honours are one for what sport and so for. Also the outline in the page set-up is a template, not all of their fields will be included, for some clubs do not field teams for all of the codes. The reason why they are all grouped together is that one user when he put them it, only added them under one section, the way that he added them was to be honest confusing. I know this is confusing, it is easier to see in practice then for me to describe it. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 08:15, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] To do

    Shouldnt this be on the front page some where ? (Gnevin 13:23, 16 March 2006 (UTC))

    Umm, yeah, good idea, i'll stick a copy of it there. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 07:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Rounders

    I've updated the rounders page with a conciliatory note. Whether rounders is English or Irish is probably up for debate (what they call rounders is called baseball their earliest citable incidence and what we call rounders is almost identical to what is called baseball today). However, the earliest national association for "rounders" is recorded by the Irish (the GAA) in 1884. Also, the Scottish (i.e. Celtic association) formed and association in 1889 as did Liverpool (suspiciously close to the Welsh border?). An English association was not formed until 1943.

    The GAA game is quiet different to the English game - although both are comparable in type of game. In the article I have separated each by calling them the GAA game and the NRA game. Obviously, it would be preferable to call one rounders per se and the other English rounders, but there are many in-roads to be made before this can be claimed for sure. Sony-youth 00:15, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Infoboxes

    Which one of these is correct

    • {{Infobox GAA province}} - Infobox first ?
    • - Infobox last , small c,small i?
    • {{GAA Club Infobox}} - Infobox last ,big c , big i ?

    (Gnevin 13:27, 16 March 2006 (UTC))

    Not sure if it is policy or not, but the apparent MOS fot infobox names it Infobox "foo", so i guess the way it looks for the proviences box is the perfered look. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 07:24, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

    Ok fixed

    [edit] Club Templates

    Can anyone throw their eye over {{infobox GAA club }} and tell me the purpose of these categorys
    Adult Teams: {{{adult teams}}} Youth Teams: {{{youth teams}}} Team Manager: {{{manager}}} Ladies' Gaelic football: [[ ]] Camogie:

    i can't make sence of them (Gnevin 15:16, 17 March 2006 (UTC))

    Umm i cant tell you, Ecoory developed the template off of the look of the county template, mine as well just think about rework the clubs template? --Boothy443 | trácht ar 09:00, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
    Ok changed it , take a look, looks better imo (Gnevin 17:03, 20 March 2006 (UTC))
    Yeah that works for now. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 07:47, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

    Umm i am kinda thinking about removing the Championships section of the infobox, i have really 2 concers about it. First is the numer of the champoinships that could be included in it, espically for the stronger clubs, i could see it like putting all of say the Cork or Kerry honours in the inobox. Also is how they will be listed, can't really use abbrevations being that those not fimilar with the GAA system woulf not know what they stood for, and if we used the full discriptions it would overly expand the infobox. Thoughts? --Boothy443 | trácht ar 08:34, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

    Have a look at Kilmacud Crokes for an example of champsionships .(Gnevin 22:07, 24 March 2006 (UTC))

    [edit] Template Idea

    Have a look User:Gnevin/mysandbox page. Should we go with this for the club template? it works well {Gnevin 16:47, 27 March 2006 (UTC)) edit changed link (Gnevin 17:38, 27 March 2006 (UTC))

    I like the idea, but i have some issues with it, ment to bring this up when you made the initial changes on the current tepmlate.
    • I like the idea of the irish at the top under the english, but i see a problem. With them being both the same font size it can be a bit distracting in that at times it could look like all one phrase. Also being that this is the en the emphasis should be put on the en, to either i would size down the irish.
    • Though i frequenly hard code image size into the template, i dont know this would be a good case to do so. Being that i think claub crest are not, at least quailty images, going to be say to come by, the size of the images will vairy. Hard coding will leadt to the blurry image that you are diaplaying currently in the article. I would eaither take out the image coding from the templat eand make it case by case, or set the coding to 100px or so.
    • Though i was not sold on the club championships at first i am now. I like the idea of senior only, and the split into the by series and sport. My probley is with the way it is delivered, it make the box to wide, and it seems to be off-centered. I have an idea though.
    These are just my thoughts, i might shank you code and see what i can do. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 08:13, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
    So far what i have come up with is here. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 09:52, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
    *I like your improvement , I would hard code the crest at 100px , just so we have a consitant size across all the clubs
    • Also i'd put the senior championships above the kit

    (Gnevin 12:03, 28 March 2006 (UTC))

    Well i took a look at it reversed, and i just didnt like the way it looked. I have both example on the test page. Anyway, before we decide on the version, i like to do some clean up on the code, so that wahy some optionals will display correcly if not listed. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 07:41, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
    Having looked at it the 1st version looks best (Gnevin 11:00, 29 March 2006 (UTC))
    Ok well i have finished it up for now, and am going to put it live. I'll make the nesscary changes to the pages that are currently using it, as well as but a discriptor on how to use it. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 06:16, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
    Must say that looks well , the hidden structure works great , good idea their (Gnevin 14:20, 3 April 2006 (UTC))
    Minor problem why does the : after camogie display on a new line?

    (Gnevin 15:43, 3 April 2006 (UTC)) Umm i dont know, i noticed it myslef, might have to do with page rendering when their is extra text, more then likely a width issue, i'll take a look. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 02:46, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

    It fixed, it should work now. As for hidden structurs, while it great it does have it's drawbacks and detractors. Though i like to see how thy could come up with a solution for the championships table. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 07:05, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Ecorry

    I would like bring this Ecorry (talk • contribs) to the attention of project memebers.After taking a short brake he has returned . Many of his articals consist of text dumps and often make little sence. I have been told all that we can do is monitor is edits.(Gnevin 17:01, 17 March 2006 (UTC))

    Well i gave the user an invite to join us at the project, but he seems inresponsive to that invite as well as other attempts to communicate with him. I dont know what to tell you, i would ask an admin or post something on WP:AN and let them sort it out. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 08:58, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
    Ok this has got to stop , Ecorry posting under User:12.108.248.109 has rv all the changes i made to link the kildare clubs to the correct info box instead linking to his own personal hobby horse Template:Kildare GAA Clubs2 Infobox, he has also readded a wrong crest to these clubs. Surely one man cant dicated what he wants (Gnevin 18:06, 21 March 2006 (UTC))
    Well i cleaned up all the pages in the category, redirected the templates, and tagged all the articles with clean ups, and project tags. I don't mind him adding to articles, but you cant understand 2/3 rd of what is their, and to people that have no knowledge on the subject, their going to walk away with just as much as they came with. Along with his apparent lack of communication with anyone,, unless you could this. Like i said if he keeps it up you might want to take it to WP:AN, or WP:AN/I, not that i would expect much their either. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 09:28, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
    Also his {{Kildare clubs}} is just about as good as his articles, going to have to give that a major re-do. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 09:29, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
    I dont really see the need for {{Kildare clubs}} surely the best thing to do is just add the category to each page and let people find the other clubs that way . Imagen the size of it if we did a list for every county dublin would have over 100 kerry over 50 its would be mad (Gnevin 14:13, 23 March 2006 (UTC))
    I suppose so. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 07:40, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
    Wow. I’ve just come across this. What an amount of energy has been put into invective that could be put into something more positive. My articles “make little sence”. I could make offensive comments about your contribution guys but that’s not good for any of us. I’ve no idea who any of you are or where this hatred comes from. If the object of this exercise is to bully people off your patch – please reconsider. You are not going to do this on your own. My own initiative was to try to get the empty GAA sites filled with informative material (yes, lists as well) and leave it to the locals after that. It would be nice to think someone else amongst you shared that objective. I even asked PROs to upload crests, honours lists, manager names and current strength of clubs in adult and youth teams. In view of your reaction here, that was probably a mistake. For the benefit of Gnevin, the criteria were changed for weaker counties and clubs. Waterford beating Kerry in football and Kerry beating Waterford in hurling are worthy of mention, not the other way round. You are welcome to take down the information I have provided if it offends you so much but surely a project such as this needs to move forward rather than become a chatroom for axe-grinding, ranching up the sort of defamatory remarks about new contributors you have made about me here. - Ecorry
    I have no personal problem with you , my only problem is that while we are trying to agree formats for infoboxes ,clubs and counties you where doing your own thing (3 different infoboxs for kildare for example) just today you edited {{Infobox GAA club}} to add fields no one understands (see infoboxes in this talk) You also ignored my several attempts to contact you . Now your edits are more than welcome and you've done great work with kildare gaa . As i said before i would love to work with you , instead of against.(Gnevin 18:27, 27 March 2006 (UTC))
    Since I wrote the above I have received another abusive message from Gnevin, this time posted to me personally, accusing me of having a “negative effect on the artacals (sic).” It is no doubt obvious to everyone, including gnevin, that the opposite is the case, Gnevin’s name cropped up vandalising the Kildare GAA club sites as soon as I set up the templates in early March. The ambition was to have all 55 up and running by Easter. That became unlikely not because of gnevin’s vandalism, annoying as it was, but the slow response of the clubs. For example just one club crest was uploaded. This meant that, having initiated the project, I have to do the bulk of the work myself at the same time contending with gnevin’s vandalism– something I was happy to do until I saw your discussion group. So it will cheer you all up no end when I take the sites down.
    There is a really important point about your attitude to contributions from others which must be made, at the risk of becoming the recipient of more hatemail from gnevin. It would help if some of the group of self-appointed enforcers understood more about the GAA and how it works. There is much to suggest they don’t, most glaringly the repeated misspelling of ‘cumann’ in the introduction to every county site and the erroneous suggestion, repeated on every county site, that the county board is responsible for camogie and ladies football teams, It should be obvious that your proposed honours list format won’t work, or will work only for the ten most successful counties, after that it will be a lot of nones. You need to understand the nature of county identity. An O’Byrne Cup win is significant in Longford, in the same way that Exeter City’s honours list will feature different competitions than Manchester United’s. If you understood Wikipedia you would know it is an evolutionary process. A tipping point is reached after the heavy lifting has been done, honours lists, introduction etc, where people contribute under their own areas of expertise. We may be close to that with the Kildare GAA site. It is in your interests to reach that as soon as possible, not to try to prevent sites reaching it. Being aggressively territorial about these matters won’t help the credibility of the finished product, a pity because wikipedia is growing and so important to the diaspora. Presumably the bullying I was subjected to in the passages above was designed to deter other contributors from making these and similar points. For the sake of the project, I hope it didn’t succeed. There are plenty of sources of reliable information about the GAA. Why are people posting insults rather than using these? - Ecorry
    Sorry gnevin, you insult me, call me names, say my articles make little sence (sic) and insinuate my work is tipped refuse, then tell me you want to work WITH me? Vandalising sites in progress was expected, a hazard of Wikipedia, the level of personal invective directed against me was not. Are you surprised that I find your aggression and the unwarranted personal abuse you have heaped upon me militates against this? - Ecorry
    "Since I wrote the above I have received another abusive message from Gnevin, this time posted to me personally, accusing me of having a “negative effect on the artacals (sic)"
    • Firstly i assume your refering too your talk does comments where written weeks ago, 21/3 been the last note the date on them and Special:Contributions/Gnevin You will see i havent posted too your talk in weeks.
    • Second , if you consider my messages "hatemail " well your easily offened ,
    • Next "Gnevin’s name cropped up vandalising the Kildare GAA club sites as soon as I set up the templates in early March."
    as i pointed out to you on both the club page and your talk its was not vandalising it was simply using the correct infobox/template. Which you will be able to see in the todo above was one of the tasks for this project.
    • " The ambition was to have all 55 up and running by Easter"
    a very good objective which i and others would consider great work
    • "So it will cheer you all up no end when I take the sites down."
    infact quite the reverse , It would be a shame to delete all the work you put in and not be able to say every club in kildare is on wiki.
    • "There is much to suggest they don’t, most glaringly the repeated misspelling of ‘cumann’ in the introduction to every county site and the erroneous suggestion, repeated on every county site, that the county board is responsible for camogie and ladies football teams,"
    As has been noted in the talk here and we are currently in mid discussion as how to procede.
    • "It should be obvious that your proposed honours list format won’t work, or will work only for the ten most successful counties, after that it will be a lot of nones. You need to understand the nature of county identity. An O’Byrne Cup win is significant in Longford, in the same way that Exeter City’s honours list will feature different competitions than Manchester United’s"
    Also a very good point which should be in the discussion abou this issue, while it's obvious too you i had never thought about( prehaps being a dub, i only consider a sam success) that till you pointed it out , i am tending to agree with you
    • "Being aggressively territorial about these matters won’t help the credibility of the finished product"
    I have not been aggressive or territorial as i and others have said your lack of responivness to comments meant that you where pulling in a different direction than the rest of us.

    All that being said, I am once again going to say i am more than willing to work with you and willing to offer a blank slate and say we got off on the wrong foot . Your input and that of anyone who wants to contib is more than welcome. (Gnevin 21:00, 28 March 2006 (UTC))
    Ps you can sign your comments by using four tildes (~~~~)

    Let’s bring the soap opera to an end. I have taken down the Kildare club sites I created, honours lists and 20,000 words of content and my contributions to county sites. May I remind you copyright has reverted from Wikipedia on all of this material, in case of mischief. I already see mischief afoot. Some of the material which, according to this forum, “made no sence” a few days ago has been remounted. Take it down again. Get to work and try not to react as badly the next time a new contributor joins. If things improve for other contributors I feel I will have achieved something. – Eoghan Corry.

    [edit] Honours

    I am going to go threw and start to clean up the honour lsit for each of the county articles. Ecorry has dumped alot of them into a central section, problem is you cant really figure out what wimmer is what, and which would go under what sport heading, so i'll do it the best that i can figure out. I'll remove the txt dumps from the artilces and repost them on the talk pages for each article that i do, so if some one wants to dry to do it further the information is sill here. Also i dont know what everyones thoughts are, but he has a tendancy to list, what i would consider, minor titles, by todays statdards, on the list, question is should we inculde them, also he list if they were simi/quater/finalist for the all Irelands and the leagues, i really dont see the revalance of listing anything further back then the if they were finalists, and thats only for the All-Ireland. Thoughts? --Boothy443 | trácht ar 07:38, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

    I'd agree , List the big 2 All ireland and league , no one cares about the others . Also i'd agree on listing if they won or where beaten finalist or some Counties like Kerry ,Dublin,Cork ,Kilkenny what would make the list huge . Also i'd consider Senior , u21 and Minor as the only important levels

    (Gnevin 20:42, 19 March 2006 (UTC))

    Well if their listed already i dont see a need to remove them, and if they are added by some one elas, i am not going to start removing them, "but as a rule" i think that we should sitck to the format of:
    • All Ireland Senior
    • All Ireland Intermediate
    • All Ireland Junior
    • All Ireland U-21
    • All Ireland Minor
    • League
    • Provience Senior
    • Provience Intermediate
    • Provience Junior
    • Provience u-21
    • Provience Minor
    • others
    The cubs are listed by decending order by level, i think i have them right. I figure if were are going to list the u-21 and Minor mine as well list the Junior and Inter, i dont really see a reason to list the Underage at the moment. I also think the provencial titiles nned to saty as well, as though they are not as important as the all-ireland in the case of the GAA as a whole but they are, for the most part, considered to be major titles for the boards. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 08:23, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] GAA boards

    I just noticed a problem that i had not noticed before, dont know why. Their is a problem with how we have the county GAA boards described. The County GAA borads, oversee Hurling and Football, but Camogie and Ladies' Football are controled by seperate couldty boards from the GAA county boards. Currenlty we have it all listed uder one page, and for the most part one board (though their are some execptions). I dont know if we should think about spinning of the Camogie and Ladies' Football listings to seperate articles for the respective couties, or just keep as is, mention that they are seperate boards for the control of the respective codes, and let it go at that. Thoughts? --Boothy443 | trácht ar 08:30, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

    Well the major problem with spinning them of is their are nearly all going to be stub's , how about something along the lines of

    The Dublin County Board of the Gaelic Athletic Association (Irish: Cummann Luthchleas Gael Coiste Contae Ath Cliath) or Dublin GAA is one of the 32 county boards of the GAA in Ireland, and is responsible for Gaelic Games in County Dublin while camogie and ladies football teams are controled by Dublin [[Ladies' Gaelic football.

    (Gnevin 15:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC))

    The Dublin County Board of the Gaelic Athletic Association (Irish: Cummnn Luthchleas Gael Coiste Contae Ath Cliath) or Dublin GAA is one of the 32 county boards of the GAA in Ireland, and is responsible for Gaelic Football and Hurling in County Dublin. While the Dublin Camogie County Board is responible for Camogie and Dublin Ladies County Board is responsible Ladies' Gaelic football in County Dublin .

    How about this, Also shouldnt this be some sort of template to make future updates easier?(Gnevin 23:41, 5 April 2006 (UTC))

    Humm let me think about it, i have been mulling over the wording. As for template, i see where you going with it and the idea behid it, though i am not sure it would be nessicarly a good idea. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 08:39, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
    I feel that what the expansion of GAA on wiki we really should have county boards and provincal councils in a category my suggestion would be category:Gaelic Sport Governing Bodies this allows for eventual addition of camogie , ladies ,rounders while alsocovering county and provincal and misc such as central council .(Gnevin 19:23, 6 April 2006 (UTC))
    Yeah that would work, we need better categories/categorising overall anyway. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 08:17, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
    Created category, is anyone still around project seems to be going no where (Gnevin 18:21, 30 April 2006 (UTC))

    [edit] Club naming policy

    I think we should have a naming policy for gaa clubs . Currently most articials are just called name gaa eg Ellistown GAA others are just the name eg Na Fianna. my suggestions would be

    • name GAA club eg Na Fianna GAA club this is my prefered option
    • name clg eg Na Fianna CLG

    (Gnevin 17:24, 20 March 2006 (UTC))

    Umm actucally i thigk the naming ought to go on a case by case basis depending on the usage by the club. I have seen them so far laisted as:

    The cases by case would be the best macth, smilar to the naming of Footbal clubs. The oonly change i would put in id that if they refer to themselves as GAA that we use GAA club instead, though i am still not entirely sold on this idea. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 09:42, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

    Was thinking, should we go dots or non dots? ie G.F.C. or GFC --Boothy443 | trácht ar 07:43, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
    No dots the dot make it look untidy and will make linking to the pages a bit of a pain (Gnevin 11:00, 29 March 2006 (UTC))
    I see your point. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 09:11, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Contributions, Welcome or Unwelcome?

    Contributions, Welcome or Unwelcome? Unfortunately a small gang of members is using this forum to bully contributors off their patch. This is unfortunate for the project as a whole, as some of the material on your GAA pages is extremely substandard. You need to welcome contributors rather than resent them, allocate areas of specialisation, to recruit new people to project and keep this growing until the quality and quantity of information does justice to Wikipedia. The GAA project is a mess. Some of the 44 county boards don’t have pages yet, many of the others are empty, even high-profile ones. The introduction to each of the Irish county pages has two glaring errors in it. This is not an environment for people to become aggressively territorial, post insults or attempt to bully new contributors off the project. The combination of small minds and petty jealousies (not unprecedented in GAA circles) is contaminating the nature of the project and preventing corrections being made, standards being raised. It is in your interest to sort it out, as in the current condition I would not recommend anybody knowledgeable about GAA affairs to get involved. I would strongly recommend them to avoid your project until there is a change in attitude. – Eoghan Corry (Moved to correct place (Gnevin 11:06, 30 March 2006 (UTC)))

    [edit] GAA Overseas

    I recon we should rename these or delete these.

    British GAA
    European GAA'
     North American
    Asian GAA'
     'Others

    (Gnevin 16:45, 30 March 2006 (UTC))

    Would go with Europe GAA and North American GAA, as that is the name of the boards for ths respective areas. Should stick with the board names for regional articles, being that is that case is it British GAA for Britan, i could nto find anything definitave. Also spin of Warwickshire GAA, i am guseeing that is a seperat board from London, and the rest of Britan. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 09:10, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
    [1] Would seem to show Britian as a provincal board. With 7 counties . Need to mention them in British GAA (Gnevin 23:22, 5 April 2006 (UTC))
    Umm dont know why that i could not find that website, i huess then we need to outfit the article accordingly, guess it's time to develope a standard format for provinical boards. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 08:37, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
    The county board structure in North America is: North American Board (covering the USA outside New York City), the New York Board (covering New York City) and the Canadian Board. All three are county boards. --Eamonnca1 18:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Planned changes too Gaelic Athletic Association

    See Talk:Gaelic_Athletic_Association for my planned changes. (Gnevin 18:52, 30 March 2006 (UTC))

    [edit] Template:Kildare Clubs

    {{Kildare clubs}}

    What are other users feelings of this ? While i think is looks well( the yellow could be changed) do we really want 32 + of this sort of template (Gnevin 00:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC))

    I am still not entirley sold on the idea. But i would not push for a deletion. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 08:40, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] GAA Grounds

    Just wondering but I think this needs a look into too. At the moment most GAA grounds don't even have a picture in their article. Just look at the Semple Stadium article. No picture eventhough its the 2nd most important stadium in the GAA.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Niall123 (talk • contribs) .

    The trouble is with most stadiums is the difficulty in finding non copyrighted image's of these ground Parnell Park and Croke Park are both good examples of how the semple stadium articial should look (Gnevin 20:12, 15 April 2006 (UTC))

    It not so mush copyright, though non copyright images would be perferedyou could use the fair use provision for most of the stadia image, it is also a matter of finding good quailty images. I personally rather ohave no image then a crap image just for the sake of having an image. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 07:20, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Hurling

    The Hurling articial is very bad , i have removed some pov but it seems to be full of it. If anyone has some free time maybe they could look over it (Gnevin 23:08, 23 April 2006 (UTC))

    [edit] Linking Policy

    I have noticed that many articials link to gaa clubs i have been removing these links . Do other members agree see Europe GAA and Hurling as examples where their are club that i think should be removed (Gnevin 23:13, 23 April 2006 (UTC))

    [edit] Move Railway Cup to Interprovincial Championship ?

    I would suggest moving Railway Cup to Interprovincial Championship . Would anyone agree (Gnevin 14:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC))

    [edit] Photos

    Does anyone know how to go about getting photos of GAA players on their bio pages? Frainc 23:10 01 June 2006

    What do you mean? (Gnevin 18:22, 19 June 2006 (UTC))

    Is it possible to take a photo from any website, and add it to wiki as long as it is sourced? Frainc 23:22 19 June

    I'm not 100% sure i think you could called it fair use and get away with it (Gnevin 22:47, 19 June 2006 (UTC))

    [edit] Hurling 2006

    Can anyone with interest in Hurling set up ring cup and rackard cup with scores for 2006 (Gnevin 18:22, 19 June 2006 (UTC))

    [edit] Task List

    Can someone help me out here? I can't seem to edit the to-do list. --Eamonnca1 18:44, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Rampant vandalism on Mark Vaughan -- help!

    I noticed while doing some RC patrolling last night that the article Mark Vaughan has been mercilessly vandalized by a number of people, to the point where I don't think the vandalism cleaners even know what's true and what's not. Some of us have been reverting each other to varying versions, and there's a lot of confusion. I've tagged the article for cleanup via the ExpertVerify tag, but since it's part of your Wikiproject, I thought I'd let you know in the hopes that one of you could head over there and fix the inaccuracies. Thanks! --FreelanceWizard 21:30, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


    [edit] Tailteann Games

    I've created a stub for the Tailteann Games but I'm not entirely sure how to bring it into this project. I think it should be brought in given the importance of this event in inspiring Michael Cusack and the early GAA founders. --Eamonnca1 22:14, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

    I'd suggest makeing it a heading the history of the gaa articial(Gnevin 11:40, 14 August 2006 (UTC))

    [edit] Reboot

    Please leave comments hear on how too move this project forward (Gnevin 11:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC))

    [edit] Intro's Again

    The Warwickshire County Board of the Gaelic Athletic Association (or Warwickshire GAA) is one of the county boards of the GAA in Britain, and is responsible for Gaelic Games in Warwickshire. The county board is also responsible for the Warwickshire inter-county football, hurling, camogie and ladies football teams. The Warwickshire branch of the Gaelic Athletic Association was founded on date


    The Dublin County Board of the Gaelic Athletic Association (Irish: Cummann Luthchleas Gael Coiste Contae Ath Cliath) or Dublin GAA is one of the 32 county boards of the GAA in Ireland, and is responsible for Gaelic Games in County Dublin. The county board is also responsible for the Dublin inter-county football, hurling, camogie and ladies football teams.

    Here are a sample of 2 one at home one oversea's . Now my problem is that

    Surely these 2 things are one and the same ?

    We should either go with and is responsible for Gaelic Games or The county board is responsible for the Dublin inter-county football, hurling, camogie and ladies football teams.

    This also doesnt cover the ladies and camogie boards . Any thoughts ? (Gnevin 11:47, 14 August 2006 (UTC))

    [edit] Article currently nominated for deletion

    Don't know what your policy is for articles on individual GAA players, but the article for Michael Jacob, a Wexford hurler, is currently nominated for deletion- if it goes it could set a bad precedent for future player articles. Robotforaday 04:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Images

    It appears that are very few if any pictures of GAA players on Wiki, how may we obtain pictures, it would really brighten up all the pages. Is it possible to add images from other sites as long as they are properly sourced to their original page? Frainc 18:15 08 June 2006.


    [edit] DOB

    Is there any way that Bate of Births can be gotten for the players. I think that it is a huge disadvantage not having the DOB's. They would bring the articles on. There must be some kind of source for them.--Play Brian Moore 20:17, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

    I wonder if there is information on any of the GAA sticker albums that have been released over the years? Frainc 22:14 18 June 2006

    I think we'll have to start looking at match programmes. Some very illustrious players (eg I got a lot of info for Frank McGuigan) may have biogs on their club pages.--Macca7174 23:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Team of the Millenium

    I noticed that their is box with the team of the Millenium at the bottom of the page of each player from the team. Any chance of

    Football Team of the Millennium

    1 Dan O'Keefe | 2 Seán Flanagan | 3 Joe Keohane | 4 Enda Colleran | 5 Martin O'Connell | 6 J.J. O'Reilly | 7 Seán Murphy | 8 Mick O'Connell | 9 Tommy Murphy | 10 Pat Spillane | 11 Seán Purcell | 12 Seán O'Neill | 13 Kevin Heffernan | 14 Tommy Langan | 15 Mikey Sheehy 

    box at end end of each of the pages? Frainc 20:44 2 July 2006

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