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[edit] Representative Article

It has been proposed that every WikiProject choose a single article which represents what the Project members hope each article will eventually look like, so that interested onlookers can see where a Project is heading. If this project is ready to choose such an article, please do so and link to it after the Project name at Wikipedia:WikiProject. If there are no articles ready for this yet, you may wish to focus as a group on an article which is close and/or will be relatively easy to research.

I suggest The Foundation Series article as the representation of this project - it's even listed on the Wikipedia:Featured articles page. Anyone disagrees? Ausir 03:23, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I think The Foundation Series is too small a universe. We should be considering something like Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, or Star Wars. The same rules aren't going to apply to series with dozens of potential related articles and ones with hundreds :). Gaurav 17:01, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I disagree. It's rather better to find out that you've made a horrendous mistake on only a small number of pages than on a huge number: the reverting would take much less time and give much less chance of making further mistakes. I'm actually liking the idea of using (visual) tables now the self-linking thing is working nicely. Thus we could construct a Mediawiki:Books in the FUBAR series table and {msg:include}} it into each book in the series. Thus whenever a new book is added to the series it automagically appears in all the other articles. --Phil 17:29, Feb 20, 2004 (UTC)
20 books is not that small of a series (of course it's nothing compared to the number of SW books, but more than LotR, not to mention Harry Potter - of course the number of LotR articles will be bigger (or rather, Middle-earth, as LotR is not a series - it's a single book most often, but not always, divided into 3 volumes). Still, Foundation is a very well known series, the only science fiction series ever awarded the special "Best All-Time Series" Hugo Award. It's also certainly one of the biggest science-fiction series not counting the ones based on movie/tv licenses. And the "Foundation Series" article is pretty much complete currently, compared to other series articles. Ausir 19:15, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Regarding Phil's comment. The other side of that coin is that a framwork that is only tested on a subject that involves a smaller set of articles, and therefor is likley to be less complex, may not work for a larger subject. To make sure that its robust enough, and that the examples cover enough cases as to be useful to others trying to learn the framwork, then the test case should be ... well at least in the upper 25% of complexity. 207.46.121.17 22:36, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

How about Middle-earth as the representation? It has been featured recently. Ausir 10:20, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I would suggest a series thjat is more complex (has more books and more sub-series) than either Foundation or LOTR, and one on which perhaps there is not quite so much pre-existing work. Perhaps the Aubrey/Maturin series by Patrick O'Brien, which starts with Master and Commander? Although there is a lot of pre-existing work on that series, also. DES 30 June 2005 17:36 (UTC)

[edit] Film series: Not as few as you think.

"The parent of this WikiProject is the WikiProject Novels, as it is not clear whether movie series (which rarely exceed three movies) need further organisation. We may move to Arts and Humanities if the need arises."

It is not that rare. There are 99 trilogies listed and 121 series of films that are above 3 in length. Lady Aleena 06:18, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Lists of film serires:

Keep that list in mind for this project. - LA @ 14:42, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Belated Notice of 'Resurection'

Belated Notice


   On the following section, a 'seeming Non-sequitar'

  • ...it's really not. Lady Aleena is responding to a notice on WPP:Books and WPP:Novels that I was going to try and revitalize this WikiProject ca mid-last-week. I just hadn't gotten here to plant my first spade into this page yet. I'm 'overbooked' momentarily, preoccupied and involved on a Meta interwiki category linking system of all language wikipedias to the commons (Project proposal that spun-off from/as part of a Commons project re-catting Maps categories into a uniform heirarchial top-down designed system.), at least on Meta defined categories at the moment.
  • You might take note of the new shortcuts posted to the project page: WPP:series / WPP:seriesTalk and the more eponymous WP:WFs (all caps match as in initialisms).
  • But I'll be moving things incrementally as at increasing speed as that settles. So stay tuned to this 'Bat Channel', as it were. I'll be spamming more folks and notices on the VP, etc. when time permits. Anyone want to help with some of that advertising? Aleena, you did some spamming on your excellent proposal, do you have a list you can share? Drop it on User:fabartus/desk if so. Thanks!
Besides, it's summer! <g> Family and RL comes first! Go grok with your favorite summer hangout while you wait! ttfn // FrankB 18:33, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Look at the Xanth series and Midkemia and Kelewan

Take a look at the Xanth series to see how things are being handled there. You might also want to look at Midkemia and Kelewan for locations in a series and how they are handled. Just a few thoughts.
—Lady Aleena talk/contribs 14:48, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I intend to make a start on such a survey this week some time. I'm 'overbooked', but these are 'old favorites' I occasionally still re-read, and would have checked them out now that it seems I'm being sucked into matters fictional as a more primary wikiPfocus. Good suggestions. I'd looked into one other (Humanx Commonwealth ) that I was tempted to 'rename' as ending with 'series', but this all needs worked out. Honorverse isn't 'Honorverse series' either, so 'Waiting will fill' 'til I Grok with you all! // FrankB 18:12, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Middle-earth

Middle-earth is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy 17:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project material in article-space categories

Please don't add project pages, and categories of project pages (such as Cat:WikiProject Fictional series) to categories designed for use on articles. Doing so is to hopelessly jumble up metadata (for use by editors) with the actual encyclopaedic "data" (for the use of readers). Alai 07:35, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:

  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
  • User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
  • User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now moved the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 14:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Holmes Project

It seems that right now Wikipedia:WikiProject Holmes is, at best, dormant. Would this project be interested in perhaps either making it a sub-project of itself, or, if that isn't workable, perhaps deleting it? The scope of your project seems to me at least to almost completely overlap. B2T2 17:48, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Narnia

Hello all, I added the WikiProject Narnia to the list of descendent projects. I also wanted to inform you all that I recently nominated Narnian timeline for Featured List status; however, it was not promoted due to no support votes (there was only one participant in the nomination, and it was a comment). I was going to renominate it but I feel that it could be better referenced. You will see in the timeline there is a section concerning the verifiability of the source. If anybody knows anything about the Walter Hooper/Kathryn Lindskoog feud, it would be greatly appreciated if you could head over to the article and see if you agree with the Verifiability section. If so, I think we need a reference that C. S. Lewis scholars accept the timeline as by him and not Hooper. Once this is cited in some way, I'm going to renominate the timeline and I urge you all to assess it accordingly, as I was advised on the talk page of WP:FLC. Thanks! --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 04:07, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, we managed to find a source for the sentences, so I've renominated the page at WP:FLC. Hope you'll get a chance to look at the article and assess it accordingly. Thanks! --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 21:24, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] New WikiProject: Wikipedia:WikiProject Science Fiction

To give some coherency to the many little sf-oriented communities on Wikipedia.--ragesoss 20:12, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:34, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] discussions of categories of series, sequels, and other serial formats

Haha, well, I didn't realize there was a WikiProject for this. I just started a Category:Series to collate Television series, Book series, and so on. This came from a Wikipedia:Categories for discussion on another serial form, the various sequels category; a category I think very problematic. More discussion at Category talk:Sequels. --lquilter 23:00, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AFD notice

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