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[edit] Proposed WikiFun For All Members

Wikifun is linked to from the Community Portal. Please join the fun if you a member of the project & report on your findings to Laleena (talk • contribs • count). Thank you.

Laleenatalk to me contributions to Wikipedia 00:45, 20 December 2006 (UTC) =Click on the Random Page link & click on the eighth link to each page you go to. Report your findings below.

I've taken the liberty of moving this entry to the talk page since it looks like a "talk-related" issue. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 01:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Proposals

It has been suggested that this group institute a collaboration and maybe something like a governing body. I personally think it might be a bit early to go for a collaboration, but am curious as to what the members think about creating a project official. Certainly, there is now a subpage of the WikiProject Council at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Contacts where it is requested that individual contacts for each project be listed. The designated contact should probably be the individual who will be working most often on specific project related activies. Badbilltucker 15:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC) My suggestion is that we do one or the other sooner or later, and then do the projects. I suggest we vote for a council first, then do contacts (from the council), then do the collaboration. Laleenatalk to me contributions to Wikipedia 13:28, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Signing up

I noticed that a WikiProject Denmark template had been added to an article I have been grooming and followed the link. Sounds fun - where do I sign up?

chochem 00:45, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

You can sign up right here: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Denmark#Participants Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 10:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nordic / Scandinavian task force on WikiProject military history?

It has been proposed on WikiProject military history to set up an either Nordic or Scandinavian task force. If you are intrested in this topic, please comment on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history#Two_task_force_ideas. Cheers. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 10:33, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Getting the article on DK featured

Shouldn't we try to get the article on DK featured, as it has already come a long way. I would very much like to help, but I'm not sure if I can do it all by myself. Snailwalker | talk 19:28, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

It should be a priority, but it takes a lot of work doing research and adding sources. Perhaps we could have this as an collaboration in February. --Maitch 17:33, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm in on this. It shouldn't be too hard really. Cheers, MartinDK 20:21, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
So, are we going to do this? MartinDK 11:06, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
To get things rolling here perhaps the first step should be to request a new peer review. I will do so once I figure out how to! MartinDK 14:24, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I have requested a new review here. MartinDK 14:38, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Using Danish terms

How would you all feel about using Danish words and nomenclatures in all Danish administrative division article texts? eg, use amter instead of counties in the text of all Danish articles, not just the titles? --Bob 04:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

As I see it, the main problem with the current situation is that a reform of 1671 created a large number of fiefs held by either barons or counts, see the list at: da:Danske grevskaber og baronier (grevskab = county, baroni = barony). If we use the words "county" and "barony" it should be for the fiefs actually held by the nobility. The fiefs abolished in 1662 were referred to as "Len", e.g. Hammershus Len (da:Danske len).
The administrative "amter" (1662-2006) had nothing to do with the nobility. The word was taken directly from German and until 1970, the "amtmand" represented royal authority in the province. He might be compared to a British governor. The word "hundred" also presents a challenge since Denmark had many more than this (da:Kategori:Herreder, da:Skånske herreder, da:Sønderjyske herreder) and the word will not be easily recognized.
I'm still not sure how to properly procede with the administrative divisions of territories no longer under Danish control, (e.g. da:Slesvigs amter (før 1864) and de:Ämter und Harden in Schleswig). But all in all, I would rather go with "Syssel", "Herred", "Len" and "Amt", but I have no problem with "Parish" rather than "Sogn" or "County" / "Barony" for fiefs actually held by the nobility. I have no strong opinion on using "Kommune" rather than "municipality" but changing the latter material would take a long time. We still have to update almost 200 articles in Cat:Municipalities of Denmark and its children due to the municipal reform of January 1, 2007. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 10:50, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adding a resource

I would like to add a local resource to make finding fair use, CC and copy left images for use in articles relating to the Cathedral in Roskilde easy. It simply is a category for images uploaded to Wikipedia of the Cathedral, the tombs inside, etc etc. I think this will improve article quality in the long run. --OrbitOne [Talk|Babel] 20:10, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Cat:Roskilde Cathedral Photo Resource

[edit] Blue Order

Could someone take a look at Blue Order? Sounds like a hoax... Olessi 17:59, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Agree. It fails WP:V completely. No independent sources at all to back this one up. Added a Prod. Valentinian T / C 07:55, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Population ranking of cities

The Esbjerg article says Esbjerg is the 5th largest city in Denmark, while technically that is Frederiksberg.

I imagine there are other changes in the ranking because of the recent reform, so a few cities ranking should probably be updated.

One must also consider, if it is the city population, or the municipiality population that is ranked.

What are your opinion on this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Koderko (talk • contribs) 23:03, 1 March 2007 (UTC).


[edit] Tagging relevant articles with {{WikiProject Denmark}}

Perhaps it would be a possibility to get at Bot to auto-tag all articles that falls within the scope of this project. I know that when wikiproject Visual Arts started up they got User:Alphachimpbot operated by User:Alphachimp to do it, and is hs approval to do it. The bot can go through The Denmark category, other danish stub related categories, to get the tag. -Angelbo 00:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it would be nice if a bot collected all articles in the category and sub-categories that are not tagged, but I still think we should evaluate them. The categories divide in strange fashions, and some reach areas not related to Denmark. Carewolf 10:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Around two months ago, I created a list of potential articles the way suggested. I did around 1/3 of it, but I haven't had the time to do the rest. AWB combined with Kingboyk's plugin makes the work a lot easier but the assessing will still have to be done manually. Please note that I have not checked if all entries on the list are relevant, I've only sorted parts of this material. Anyway, the "missing" part of the list is here: User:Valentinian/WP Denmark tagging. Feel free to work on it, but please remember to keep the list updated. If you simply tag the talk pages, simply add {{WikiProject Denmark|class=|importance=}} to the top of the talk pages. If anybody wishes to use AWB for this purpose, copy-paste the content of the list into an empty .txt file. In this case, all entries should use the current format: # [[Talk:Esbjerg]] . Valentinian T / C 10:45, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Btw, this list is not the latest version, so a number of articles on it might have been done already by me or others. Unfortunately, this is the best version I can find as my harddrive crashed a few days ago. Valentinian T / C 10:53, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Everything through #100 #200 on the list is tagged as of March 14. -- Pastordavid 16:25, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Done through no. 270. I've been a bit cautious regarding the tagging of former colonies in India and Africa. Valentinian T / C 20:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Grundtvig

Was just passing by, and thought I would mention this article. It is in dire need of in-text citations, and I don't know the sources well enough to do that ... I thought that someone here might. With the citations, I think the article could easily be promoted to a Good Article. -- Pastordavid 19:12, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment Chart

For easy reference, I added the assessment chart to the main page, along with a link to the project stats and the assessment page. -- Pastordavid 17:26, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The articles about Danish municipalities need updating

Denmark carried out an administrative reform on 1 January this year, slashing the number of municipalities from 271 to 98. Result: we now have almost 300 incorrect articles about these entities. All articles in Cat:Future municipalities of Denmark need to be moved to Cat:Municipalities of Denmark and the future tense must be changed to past tense since these entities now exist. The articles in Cat:Municipalities of Denmark also need updating. Many of them need to be updated to reflect that the entity has been abolished and moved to Cat:Former municipalities of Denmark. A number of entities about towns also refer to entities now abolished. The articles about the counties and regions have all been fixed, but any help on the articles about the municipalities would be very much appreciated. Most of these articles are very similar so perhaps a bot could be programmed to do some of this work? If this work is done manually, we'll need to set up a check list to avoid a lot of duplicate work. Valentinian T / C 21:35, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Could we also please try to separate cities and municipalities? It is silly that Copenhagen talk about the municipality and not the city as a whole. Others like Vallø shares name with a geographic area that might or might not be equivalent to the municipal area. I propose that all articles that talk about the municipalities end in .. Municipality, and we move out all municipal specific content out of, for instance Copenhagen to Copenhagen Municipality. (Roskilde and Roskilde municipality has already done this.) Carewolf 09:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Sounds like a good idea. Much of this material has been split off already, and we might as well do the same for the remaining articles. There is a bit confusion regarding the names of these articles, and we have articles using both upper- and lowercase article names (Odense Municipality and Roskilde municipality) so having a uniform naming system would be nice. The articles about the regions and counties use upper-case spelling (Funen County). However, I don't like the Danish Wikipedia's practice about creating duplicate articles for entities that have been enlarged by the reform, e.g. we should have one article about Kerteminde but only one article about Kerteminde municipality (the Danish Wikipedia has da:Kerteminde, da:Kerteminde Kommune and da:Kerteminde Kommune (1970-2006)). A Czech editor has created a series of infoboxes, so we might find them useful here as well? We never really introduced them for the Danish material. I've made a few experiments on Odense, Næstved, Roskilde, and Region Sjælland but the boxes can contain much more information, see e.g. the articles Pilsen and Pilsen Region. Valentinian T / C 11:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
As an experiment, I've added infoboxes to both Fredericia and Fredericia municipality. The colour for the municipal infobox is the same as the one proposed for the regions, but I don't think it will pose any actual problems. Valentinian T / C 19:06, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What to do with {{SightLandmarkDenmark}}  ?

I just discovered this one. The list of places is not a UNESCO list or something similar, not that I know of anyway. I don't necessarily disagree with the buildings listed but the list is a grab bag. Where is Saint Canute's Cathedral in Odense, Viborg Cathedral, the Little Mermaid, the Dybbøl trenches, Kronborg Castle, Koldinghus, and Ribe Cathedral. It looks like WP:TFD fodder to me. Valentinian T / C 21:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Danish films

Hi!! Please can you help fill in the List of Danish films I am afraid it will be up for afd. I and a few other users are trying to fill the lists by country in. If you can add the details on the films already on wikipedia in year order from Category:Danish films and any others you know of from notable directors etc that would be a great help for WP Film sand Denmark!. THanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" "S.P.E.C.T.R.E" 16:48, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

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