Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket/List of cricketers
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This article was nominated for deletion on 30 June 2006. The result of the discussion was Move "List of cricketers" to Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/List of cricketers. |
It doesn't make much sense to keep two lists. Its a pain to keep them synchronized. IMHO we should get rid of the alphabetical list. -- Arvindn 16:22, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- It does make sense to keep an alphabetised list. Also Wikipedia contributions are voluntary, meaning your pain is someone else's pleasure. Jay 17:06, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Hi! I had an idea that in each article about a cricketer, we could give an external link to his 'Cricinfo' profile. What do you think? Jam2k 08:10, Jul 4, 2004 (UTC)
- Some of them already have such links. I think it's a good idea. If you want to go through and add them all, please go ahead! (It's quite a bit of work!) --dmmaus 09:11, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Are wikilinks for each country really such a bad idea? It looks somehow worse to me not to have the links active. The format of only listing it for the first player doesn't seem right to me. What's the consensus? Average Earthman 16:17, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Standard Wikipedia style policy is only to link the first time a word appears in an article. See Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style. --dmmaus 22:34, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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- OK, but it still looks messy to me. I think it might be preferable to list the test nations first, and have the links there, making it easier to quickly find the link. Average Earthman 12:14, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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- Howzat? ;-) --dmmaus 23:57, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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- No need for Hawk-Eye to judge that, I like it. Average Earthman 15:12, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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To do:
- create stubs for each mentioned player (so many red links looks terrible - at the least, a link to the Cricinfo profile and a précis of the profile - date of birth, team, statistics, brief career details, etc - could be included)
- add teams and dates of birth for all players (particularly ones where articles already exist).
-- ALoan (Talk) 09:46, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- At time of writting, I've completed most of the 'creating stubs' it only has a brief setence to say the person is a cricketer, what team they played or are playing for, stub message and category... but it's a start squash 22:56, Aug 13, 2004 (UTC)
Some articles about cricketers are so bad. There is almost no information. For example see these pages Lala Amarnath, Mohinder Amarnath. All sub-stubs. I agree that it will not be possible to put in enough information on each and every page but can't the people who create these pages be more responsible? Jam2k 14:38, Oct 8, 2004 (UTC)
Please! Please! I feel really terrible! Some cricketers who are legends in their own right have hardly four lines written about them in articles. Another example is Bishen Singh Bedi. I'm not telling this because I'm Indian. There is no denying that he was one of the most feared spinners of the bygone era. It's only cricketers who have a significant fan following who seem to fill more pages. Not many care about cricketers who are truly talented and deserve a detailed article. I wanted to add Cricinfo links to all pages about cricketers, but after seeing some of these pages, I don't want to waste my time adding links to such pages that don't even qualify as stubs. I appeal to every cricket fan out there, please try to find as many pages like these as you can and put in some significant information. I don't want to put these pages in sub-stub section as there are just too many. I'm very very sorry I got too emotional but I can't help it. Jam2k 15:41, Oct 18, 2004 (UTC)
- Emotional?... I think that sooner or later someone will add something to the article... Don't stop adding the Cricinfo player profile links :-) [[User:Squash|Squash (Talk)]] 06:34, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] List
There are too many players under some of the countries. Would it be possible to further divide players under their country by decade?
- The list of Players in the Test and one-day international cricketers section is generated automatically from the various [[List of <country> Test cricketers]] and [[List of <country> ODI cricketers]]. The main purpose of this list is as an index so editors can click on "Related changes" link in the toolbox to see changes made to any of these articles. If you want a list of cricketers by decade, suggest browsing (for example) List of Australian Test cricketers or List of Australian ODI cricketers. -- Ian ≡ talk 13:41, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Other cricketers
This section states that it includes notable players who have never played at test or ODI level, but includes several who have played women's tests or ODIs. I'm not sure whether it would be best to simply change the wording, or separate them into another section. JPD (talk) 15:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- I've wondered about this. I would support putting women into a separate section, but I worried that some people might find it sexist. Stephen Turner (Talk) 20:23, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Links to main articles
I think we should add links to List of Test cricketers, List of ODI cricketers, and the national lists, in the appropriate sections. I know this list is updated by bot - can I add the links by hand, or would the bot overwrite them? -- ALoan (Talk) 11:55, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
- The bot would overwrite them. It's a deliberate decision not to include them, because it makes "Related Changes" much less useful, and Related Changes is the main use of this list. Stephen Turner (Talk) 14:56, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
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- Hmm - I had presumed that this list was there for the reader. If not, query whether it ought to be in a different namespace.
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- List of Test cricketers and List of ODI cricketers both have links to the sub-articles. At the very least, this article should have such links in the "see also" section. -- ALoan (Talk) 16:42, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
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- I seriously doubt whether it's useful to ordinary readers (as opposed to active editors). Stephen Turner (Talk) 13:07, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Ted Alletson
I'm still a newbie. The page I created about Ted Alletson doesn't seem to come up to scratch, and I was advised to copy the formatting of other famous cricketers' pages. However, Alletson wasn't a very successful cricketer and it doesn't seem to make sense to copy the formatting of, say Graham Gooch for a bloke who had a good day once at Hove. Advice/contributions most welcome. Dweller 12:51, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Un-encyclopedic box
I feel that the box to view recent changes is un-encyclopedic and a violation of self-referencing guideline. I suggest its removal. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 22:27, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Is there any point in keeping this list?
I really cannot see the point of maintaining a huge and difficult to use list like this. There are probably hundreds of articles not in it and who can be bothered to look here when it's much easier to use search or categories anyway?
I'm going to propose this for deletion on Sat 1 July. --Jack 10:56, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Agree. Refer to Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a mirror or a repository of links, images, or media files, #2. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 16:37, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Broken links
After the deletion of the article, there are about a 100 broken links to that page. IMO, we can't redirect them to this page (under WikiProject) as it would be a cross-namespace redirect. How should we go about it? — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 06:03, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
- A fair few of them were links from the redirect List of international cricketers which should probably be deleted straight away (as it's a redirect to a deleted page). I don't know about all the rest - most of them are talk pages anyway, so should stay, and the links on off break and leg break were probably useless in the first place. Sam Vimes 07:11, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
