Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Contemporary Christian music

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[edit] Goals

WikiProject CCM has some broad goals and ambitions that it desires to achieve. Please don't edit the list; rather, propose your new ideas here and discuss them here.

[edit] List of goals

These are the list of goals so far. If you want to add more, see the below.

  1. To make a standard for articles relating to Contemporary Christian music This will be achieved using the musician structure guidline.
  2. Integrate {{infobox musical artist 2}} into pages on artists and bands This infobox is administered by WikiProject Musicians. To see the latest discussion and changes to the infobox, see their proposal page.

[edit] Discuss goals

Please discuss the goals here. In order to keep this section short, please move inactive sections to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject/Archives/Goals/1. If you aren't sure, you might be safe just leaving it there. When you are adding a new heading here, use the third headline, as in ===A descriptive heading===.

[edit] Propose goals

If you wish to add more goals or make noticable changes, please propose them below, using this format:

===Proposal name===
I would like to propose adding x, y, and z to the list of goals, because of the
reasons a, b, and c. ~~~~

[edit] Square Peg Alliance

I am a fan of several of the members of the Square Peg Alliance, a group of 13 Christian musicians who are cross-promoting one another's work. Many of them do not have pages at all, and those that do could use a lot of work. Feel free to hop on over to Square Peg Alliance and help me out with the work I've already begun over there. Thanks! Pepsi2786 07:48, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tasks

You may simply add petty and trivial tasks, which may seem laborous, below. But, these are the things that helps you get barnstars and recognition (as well as increase your edit count :-).)

[edit] List of tasks

Below is the list of WikProject CCM tasks.

  • Start adding references and citations to CCM articles.

[edit] Discussion

[edit] Project Directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:

  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
  • User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
  • User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 21:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now put the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 00:21, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Peer Review of The W's

The W's is going through the Wikipedia:Peer review process. Please leave comments and suggestions at Wikipedia:Peer review/The W's. Dan, the CowMan 20:51, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{WPBiography}}

Please use {{WPBiography}} on the talk pages of articles about people. This is important because this template comes with an important notice about the Wikipedia policy related to Biographies of living persons and can be quite helpful because it also provides a parameter for rating the quality of the article and for requesting that a template be added to the article. A list of the parameters, and a brief description of them can be found at Template:WPBiography#Usage. --Tim4christ17 talk 01:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Need help from this wikiproject

Hello. I generally stay away from music articles on Wikipedia, but I've gotten myself involved with an article about a CCM band from Canada that I am absolutely convinced meets Wikipedia's notablility guidelines. However, the article about that band has been repeatedly deleted as non-notable. I had an admin move it to my userspace where the article's creator and I have been working on it. I'd like it to be in as good a shape as possible before I take it to deletion review, but I don't want to let the AFD lie in its grave for too long, especially since the closing admin currently has several other contested decisions at DRV.

I was wondering if someone from this wikiproject who is familiar with the Canadian Contemporary Christian Music scene would take a look at User:ONUnicorn/Critical Mass and give us a hand. Thanks. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs) 20:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:55, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The New Look

Yeah... so... I got bored. I have found the previous look here at WikiProject CCM to be jumbled, hard to navigate, and just plain unfriendly for getting anything done. So, I took some initiative and made us a Navigation Bar, then chopped apart the main article and shoved it into subpages linked from said Nav bar.

In doing so, I created for us a Peer Review Page, linked to User:Badbilltucker's Assessment page, worked in User:Casey14's To-do page, and I feel most importantly, added a Collaboration page. Hopefully we can get our members more involved and work together to improve a specific article every two weeks. And hopefully the new look will help us bring in more contributors. I also created an Outreach page for the purpose of getting some more editors over here.

Oh, and I also editted User:Black and White's infobox to match the nav bar. If other members would prefer different colors for either the nav bar or the infobox, just let me know what you all would like. I hope no one minds all the changes. I suppose maybe I should have asked before I did it... -- Pepsi2786 09:30, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I love your changes to the navigation! I can't commit to helping improve an article every two weeks, as I am a member of 7 WikiProjects. I do occasionally work on an article that catches my eye. Everyone should add the Plumb (singer) article to their watchline, as some anon keeps incorrectly removing that she is a Christian Music artist. They even remove the references that I added to verify. Royalbroil T : C 03:01, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Great new layout, btw. Sorry for tardiness in saying this. Dan, the CowMan 08:43, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] www.jesusfreakhideout.com

I noticed that User:RoryS89 had created an article on the website, but it was speedy deleted. I had an admin restore the article to my userspace at User:Royalbroil/Sandbox. I will create a proper article. Anyone who wants to help develop the article is welcome. Please do not move the article to mainspace, as most of the edit history for my sandbox is about other things. Royalbroil T : C 16:11, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I wrote the article, and you can find it here: Jesus Freak Hideout. Royalbroil T : C 05:16, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Squad Five-O Featured

The newly created article Squad Five-O was featured on the main page's DYK section today, 2007-02-13. Dan, the CowMan 08:43, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I enjoyed reading the article. It was well-formed too. I look a lot at the DYK section. I hadn't noticed that this was a CCM article. I am unfamiliar with the band. Royalbroil T : C 23:55, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Should we work on this article?

For the last month, I've been considering doing an article on the album All Because of You (1984 album) by then-Facts of Life star Lisa Whelchel; partly because it was her first (and, as it turned out; only) album, partly because it was nominated for a Grammy, and also becuase it is so rare.

Just let me know if you feel this would be a good inclusion and I will begin work on the article as soon as possible. If not, no further action will be taken.

WAVY 10 00:14, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Go for it, assuming that you have at least 2 solid independent references. There are 2 assertions for notability, since it was recorded by a notable person and the album charted. Any topic that you can demonstrate these 2 criteria should be safe from deletion. Royalbroil T : C 05:15, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Purevolume.com

What does everyone think about the reliability of this website as a source? Is independent of the source (or can artists pay to get on the site)? It appears to be quite a bit weaker than jesusfreakhideout.com as a source. Or am I wrong? Royalbroil T : C 13:39, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I think that it's considered a little higher than MySpace; its not a general social networking site. It is run by the band, and their are tiers of membership (Free & Paid). It's link may be deleted by overzealous wikipedians, but I don't have a problem with linking to it. Dan, the CowMan 15:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. I was suspecting that to be the case. I think that we should consider it NOT to be a reliable source as outlined by the policy WP:SOURCE#Wikipedia_articles_must_be_based_on_reliable_sources, since it run by the band. It can still be linked to as an external link. It could also be used in the form "XYZ stated on the purevolume.com page that..." which sometimes comes up with myspace or official websites. What does everyone think about my assessment? Royalbroil T : C 17:48, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WOW Hits up for deletion

The WOW Hits articles are all up to be deleted. See the disccusion at this location.--E tac 04:46, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jesus Freak Hideout and Christian Music Central up for deletion

The two articles from this WikiProject have been nominated for deletion. You can follow the links on their website to get to their deletion nominations. Royalbroil T : C 15:00, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I've left a relatively lengthy comment on the JFH AfD. :-) Thanks for the alert! --3M163//Complete Geek 18:58, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I just got beat by 2 minutes with the comment on JFH being used as a reference in over 100 articles. What does everyone think about CMCentral.com, including you 3M163? Royalbroil T : C 19:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Across The Sky up for deletion soon.

A lot of content has been added and source material. This article could use some TLC soon. It is rated by this project currently as a stub but after the additions of the last two days that quality rating may need another visit. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.101.179.35 (talk) 01:33, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

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