Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Brighton

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[edit] Publicizing

I note that the project isn't really publicized anywhere. You might at least add links to the project on the various other related UK projects. Also, evidently there's some way to announce new projects on the Wikipedia:Community Portal. You might consider contacting them to let them know about the project as well. Badbilltucker 20:23, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sassoon Mausoleum and related Brighton questions

I am a bit confused about this fascinating building. I put a note to that effect on the talk page of Edward Sassoon. Also, do the Brighton Baths still exist? Where did Dr. Anthony Relhan live in Brighton and/or hove? Is there much of a hill in Hove? I see references to things being on a hilltop but the pictures I see do not look very large. Any plans for a page on Flora Sassoon, who was a prominent figure in town? Was the famous war poet Sassoon her nephew or her grandson? --Filll 20:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I've replied on the Edward Sassoon talk page about the mausoleum. By the baths, if you mean Mohammed's Baths, then no they don't, although I seem to remember reading that the Queen's Hotel building may incorporate some part of them, but that needs to be checked. The best resource, which is cited on the main Brighton page, is The Encyclopædia of Brighton. Other notable baths in Brighton include the Moderne open air "lido" at Black Rock, also sadly demolished for the benefit of the marina.
Sorry, can't help much on the other questions. With regard to the hill, do you mean a particular hill or just Hove's topography in general? The estate of Hangleton, for example, is well above the height of the centre of Hove, but I'd not call it a hill, it's more a ridge, as the South Downs begin. – Kieran T (talk | contribs) 21:18, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A good idea, where do I join?

Good to see this portal get started, I am very interested in contributing. Brief intro, I started the Marth Gunn and Peter Ward (English footballer) pages and re-wrote the Whitehawk article from scratch. I have also contributed to the Brighton and Brighton & Hove Albion F.C. pages. Fork me 10:49, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bands, solo artists, comedians, actors etc from Brighton

Should articles to these also be included in the project? There are loads of wikipedia articles about Brighton bands (including the Levellers, Peter & the Test-Tube Babies, Norman Cook), it would make sense to include them IMO as well as other celebrities who live in or come (came in the case of dead ones!) from Brighton. I would be happy to trawl around wikipedia, see what's there and start any that aren't if it's desirable to the project. I'm also wondering whether the page on the Quadrophenia film and other films set in Brighton should be included. Fork me 11:11, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I'd say yes, don't know what other project members think. There is a category for films set in Brighton. I thought perhaps our list of articles in the project should be grouped, e.g. "Places (Bevendean, Moulsecoomb ...)" "Tourist attractions (Pier, Pavilion)", "Arts and culture" etc. Itsmejudith 14:30, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Where would we "draw the line", though? The Levellers for example have long owned a studio complex in Brighton, but would we list other bands whose members merely used those facilities (the studio) or perhaps had a much-reported weekend home in the town? We need a definite criterion. (And I vote that it not be "member of band was born in Brighton" because that's not particularly relevant to Brighton culture.)
Also it would probably pay to come up with a standard form of words to add to the talk page for each article we add in this way, so people who know nothing about the connection to Brighton aren't bemused. – Kieran T (talk | contribs) 14:38, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I think we'd draw the line at the band live, lived (for a significant amount of time) or were formed in Brighton. With other artistes again, lived, live or born. The Levs, for example, don't just own a studio in Brighton but the band are/were based here. These Animal Men were formed in Brighton and most of the band lived here. (I went to school with the bassist and the manager). Norman Cook lives here now and has made Brighton his home, etc etc etc Fork me 20:49, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Really like the grouping of articles. How do we go about starting to rate these articles for importance and quality? Itsmejudith 19:37, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
I didn't realise the grouping had already been suggested on here before I did it, great minds think alike :) (and it was me who misplaced Brighton Rock, don't know how I managed to do that!) On the matter of people from Brighton being included in the project, there are an awful lot of notable people from Brighton and we have to have limits somewhere, I think we should be concentrating our effects on those articles directly relating to Brighton, otherwise the scope is going to be too wide. -- Joolz 15:38, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Replication in the project page

How many should we add to the project page? (This isn't the same issue as "which ones to include in the project itself") I was just about to add some obvious omissions to the "people" section which I was alphabetising, but then realised they're all in the article List of notable Brighton and Hove inhabitants – so why need we add them to our list too? – Kieran T (talk | contribs) 19:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps if they're all listed in the project then that article will be redundant? Itsmejudith 19:59, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
I hope not! The project should never set itself above the articles. Projects sometimes become "dormant" and get wiped. Additionally, that article, though not expansive, does provide more information per person (such as their Brighton connection) than does our list. – Kieran T (talk | contribs) 20:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Your points taken, thanks. Itsmejudith 22:30, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
I think this is something we need to look at. Do articles contained within the categories we list also need to be listed seperately within the project or do we just assume that if they're in, for example, Category:Music from Brighton, England, then they're also a part of the project? Fork me 11:15, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Indeed. I'd suggest that all we need do is have a clear link from the project page to each category, and relevant "list" article. – Kieran T (talk | contribs) 13:11, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome box

When I received it, it said: "Hi, and welcome to the Brighton WikiProject! We're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Londons metro systems."

As a quick fix I've changed the line to: "We're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of everything to do with the City of Brighton & Hove."

It may need changing to something better.

Fork me 09:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project page organisation

A quick suggestion.. instead of having a seperate 'to do' section (or perhaps as well as) I think it would be better since we have a list of articles to build a table and for each article information about what needs to be done to it, so people can easily see what needs to be done to which article, would anyone mind if I went ahead with this? -- Joolz 14:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External links

I've just added an issue regarding external links to the Brighton main article talk page and would appreciate opinions from you guys. – Kieran T (talk | contribs) 16:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC) — Issue sorted. Hurrah for talk page discussions which work! – Kieran T (talk | contribs) 17:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 17:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Articles for deletion candidate

Some projects have this topic as a section on the main project page... perhaps we should consider that. But for now, I'll mention here on the talk page, that a Brighton-related article is up for deletion. The debate is here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Brighton and Hove buses named after famous people – Kieran T (talk | contribs) 19:04, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Albion article

An anonymous user deleted a chunk of info on the Brighton & Hove Albion F.C. page. S/he may or may not have a point, but I have replaced it and initiated a discussion on the talk page. Fork me 10:00, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 21:05, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] George IV of the United Kingdom FAR

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