Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography/Arts and entertainment

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[edit] Stub listing

I was wondering what (if any) policies or opinions there were on what stubs to list on this page. For instance, looking at the musician stubs, there are many missing. This would be okay if we're just looking for the main categories. The only thing is I don't think the Finland musician stub is a main category, while conductor and music producer stubs seem more basic. Any thoughts? --Amazzing5 19:48, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually waht it came down to, was me running out of steam copying over categories, so I figured those interested in certain areas could help finish it up and paste the rest. Personally I like having all listed as it's easier to find and copy what you need than clicking through them, but, yep, I didn't finish :-) Anyone want to help out? See the politics and government or royalty area for more fleshed out versions.... plange 01:55, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for expanding!! plange 19:51, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Arts and Entertainment Work Group - Musicians

I would just like the Arts and Entertainment Work Group - Musicians to know that the WikiProject on Musicians is undergoing a revival of sorts and would like to work with this project to ensure the improvement of musician and band-related articles. I added the project to the list. Thanks. -- Heaven's Wrath   Talk  04:55, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Cool! Might you be interested in organizing it as a Musicians work group instead? It really wouldn't be all that different than what you have now; you'd just move your current page to a sub-page of the Biography project, and we would add a line to our project tag that has a graphic for your group and says something like "this article is supported by the Musicians work group."? That way, you could make use of all the infrastructure (assessment, review processes, etc.) that we've already set up. What do you think? plange 14:47, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
That sounds like a good idea - at the moment biographies of musical groups aren't covered. --kingboyk 09:10, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1.0 assessments and this work group

Thanks to kingboyk, we now have the assessments split into work groups to make things easier to digest! What does this mean? Well, now we have a nice work list that shows not only the quality scale, but also any comments left in the project banner template. Also, you'll notice we now have stats for this workgroup displayed on the workgroup page, and you also now have your own log of changes to quality and importance... plange 05:16, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Use of WP B/A & E

I've been adding your tag using the {{WPBiography}} to any articles that relate to your subject matter. However, I now wonder if you want them all added to your grouping. It only says on the tag page that the article should be within the scope of your group - which they are... but I wasn't sure if the articles were something that you selectively choose to include. Morphh 12:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Nope, we don't selectively choose, so tag away-- as long as they are in one of the disciplines covered by A&E they can get the a&e-work-group=yes flag (as long as they're not fictional characters). Thanks! plange 17:39, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Friendly reminder

Don't forget to use infobox templates for their specific field. There are more and better specific infoboxes than Template:Infobox Celebrity. 24.126.199.129 06:44, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I'd added infoboxes specific to disciplines (musician, architect, etc) so that would be a great place to start finding the appropriate one. If you see any missing be bold and add :-) plange 15:49, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changes to {{WPBiography}}

Dear workgroup, After discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography the importance= field has been changed on the Project template. The changes and how they affect this workgroup are as follows:

  • importance= has been deprecated in favour of priority=.
  • priority= is the same as importance, it's just a friendlier word. The meanings of the grades haven't changed.
  • Importance params should be removed (not an urgent task, just don't use importance= from now and on change any you see to priority= if you feel like it)
  • importance/priority is no longer assessed on a Project scale, except for the ~200 top core articles which use a new parameter core=yes
  • this means that the priority= ratings are now for the exclusive use of the workgroups
  • The workgroups are free to work out their own "importance" (priority) ratings. priority=Top is no longer off limits. So, for example, I've upgraded John Lennon to priority=Top. He's not on the core bios list but that doesn't matter, as the priority is only for the workgroups and Lennon is no doubt top priority/importance in the arts & entertainment field.

Hope that helps. Any questions to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography please. --kingboyk 09:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Filmography formats

I wonder if we should create a standard format for filmography lists? Something that's been bugging me is how many filmographies follow the same format as the IMDb, including wording (suggesting a straight cut-and-paste making it borderline copyvio). Or, even if the wording isn't the same, the IMDb is the only film list that lists most recent films first. Logically, filmographies should have the earliest films at the top and then you work your way forward. Audrey Hepburn is an example of a filmography that was changed to the IMDb format (though I flagged it so it might have changed - in fact I intend to fix it myself). Thoughts? 23skidoo 23:38, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

I think this sounds like a good idea. Also, do you know how filmographies are greeted during FAC? --plange 01:03, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
If by FAC you mean featured category nominations, to be honest I have seen zero consistency in that. One article is given a hard time at FAC for not having lists, while another might be given a hard time because it has lists. I've seen one too many articles lose their FA status for what I consider to be silly reasons, or denied for same. I don't bother with FA anymore on any articles I work on. It ain't worth the trouble. 23skidoo 03:12, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] From Catholic Encyclopedia

I am currently working on categorising missing articles from the Catholic Encyclopedia 1912. You may be interested in a couple of categories that I've created:

Thanks! I've added these to the project page! --plange 21:46, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:

  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
  • User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
  • User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:33, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now moved the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 14:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New artist infobox

Here Template:Infobox Artist. Arniep 17:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

This template should conform much closer to Template:Infobox Writer, particularly how birth/death information is handled. It's too bulky as it is. *Sparkhead 01:17, 30 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lists of works)

I've overhauled Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lists of works) based on a 2nd round of feedback. Possibly it's complete and ready? Feedback (at it's talkpage) or improvements welcome :) --Quiddity 02:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Filmography RFC

I've created an RFC to work out the details involved in making useful filmography sections. Check it out at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Filmography. - Peregrinefisher 21:35, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] adding junk to Frank Caliendo

An anonymous editor (special:contributions/130.127.230.167) keeps adding junk about football predictions to the Frank Caliendo article and getting rude to people who revert it. I would appreciate it if a couple of other editor would watch this article and revert him so that we can show him some consensus. --rogerd 01:52, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peter Quennell

Greetings! I come under the auspices of WikiProject Abandoned Articles, a project aimed at bringing abandoned articles to life. One such one is Peter Quennell, who appears to be a prolific author and literary critic. If anybody could spare their time, knowledge and expertise, we would appreciate if you could improve on the article and bring it back to life again! Thanks. Lord Pheasant 05:52, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Joaquin Phoenix

Please check the Joaquin Phoenix article. I have the following questions: Is the "Trivia" section really necessary? Is it considered encyclopedic? Where are the cited references to these trivia alegations? If the alegations in the trivia section are verifiable facts, shouldn't they be worked into the article itself? I believe that the section should be eliminated since it doesn't present any sources to back up its claims. Input, anyone? Tony the Marine 14:24, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed Arts and Entertainment parameters to WPBiography

WikiProject Arts and Entertainment is very wide in scope and includes Actors • Architects • Artists • Illustrators • Painters • Photographers • Sculptors • Comic artists • Comedians • Dancers • Directors • Musicians • Poets • Writers and critics. Musicians have their own WPBiography parameter, but none of the others do. I have proposed here that the WPBiography template be expanded to include parameters for each of the items. Please provide your thoughts on this proposal at this location. -- Jreferee 16:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Please also see User:Ernst Stavro Blofeld/Film biography page model for the early model of the project Film biography which is about to start. THanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "I've been expecting you" 19:33, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dropping a line.

I have created an article on an author at this link Jason Frost (author). however, the name Jason Frost appears to be a publishing house pseudonym and neither me nor any one else can find out who the actual person is in order to create a decent biography. I have listed some of his books (mainly from early '80's. Pulp fiction mainly) which I own.

It would be greatly appreciated if someone could help find out more about this man. Nateland 00:04, 24 March 2007 (UTC)