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This subpage is for discussion on the 2007 MLB team articles, go to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball for the main discussion.

Contents 1 Integration with Baseball WikiProject 2 Standard form 3 Good Job! 4 Player stats 5 Stats 6 Extra Innings 7 Why are we using articles as templates?

[edit] Integration with Baseball WikiProject

Hi, I've added this page to the contents list of the Baseball WikiProject, it'd be better for this page to be moved to Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball/2007 MLB team articles, so that the page is kept under the project and for more people to feel they are able to edit it.

Please consider this --Borgarde 08:20, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Standard form

Should we create a standard form for the 2007 team articles. For example, should we include the team roster/team infobox on each page? Fbdave 23:12, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I believe the team roster should be included. After all, the article is about the season, not just the results. --Borgarde 01:28, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree that the team rosters should be included. Fbdave 02:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps we wanted to use templates for the standings. I created Template:2007 NL East Standings. That eliminates the chances of having five different versions of the standings. Fbdave 23:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

That's a great idea. It'll make it a lot easier to edit and keep up to date. --Borgarde 03:51, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

The season articles should have the season roster, not just the current roster. —Mike 20:38, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Is it really necessary to change the 2006 Minnesota Twins article to a standard form? I think it is fine like it is, and many of us have been working on that particular article, as well as historic Minnesota Twins seasons for some time now. --Smarterthanu91 • Talk 01:06, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I cringed after looking at the 2007 Kansas City Royals season article. I hope this isn't going to turn into a "let's just copy the statistics we can get from every other site" kind of article. Users wanting current stats should be referred to MLB's own stats page which will be more up-to-date than these articles will be. Also, the lead sentence should be linking to the MLB season article, not just the general baseball year article (eg. "In the 2007 Major League Baseball season, the Kansas City Royals ..."). —Mike 20:38, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Are the rosters included or not? User:Ksy92003 removed the roster from the New York Yankees Article with the message, "we don't need to include this information." Michael Greiner 20:06, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Response from User:Ksy92003:"Hello, Michael Greiner. It isn't a really good idea to include the rosters as the information changes (not added onto, but changed entirely). Plus, at the end of the season, what roster will you put here? Because of this, a current roster isn't gonna be of any use to anybody looking at the article 20 years from now. Do you catch my drift? Ksy92003 23:10, 4 April 2007 (UTC)"

I know that the info changes but the info is current as this is the current season. At the end of the season, the template would be removed and the names of the players on the roster then plus any other players who made the active roster (25-man) during the season would be moved. (I'm willing to go through and look at previous changes) Michael Greiner 00:43, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Still, it doesn't make hardly any sense to include something if it's just gonna be removed at the end of the season anyway. Ksy92003 00:46, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

It wouldn't be removed, just made permanent. (Template would be replaced by the text of the template) Michael Greiner 01:31, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

The National Hockey League season articles include the current rosters. See 2006-07 Anaheim Ducks season. I would follow their lead. Fbdave 18:08, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good Job!

I'm really glad that we have at least gotten all 14 American League teams up and running, and three of the NL's 16 teams. I wasn't expecting there to be this much of a turnout on this project. My congratulations go out to everybody contributing to this project! Ksy92003 01:40, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Player stats

Hey everybody, I just realized that the link for the player stats is only for the 2006 stats, as 2007 hasn't begun. When the 2007 season begins, it is not known whether the links already on the articles will be the links for the new stats. Please be aware for any changes to these links. Ksy92003 14:45, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I didn't check whether anyone changed anything, but I did a little exploring a while ago and the 2007 season should automatically go to this link. There is a link directly to the 2007 season which I might go through and change them all manually later so when the season is over they do not need to be changed again. --Borgarde^talk 00:19, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stats

Is it necessary to include pitchers' hitting stats? Tomdaddy53 21:35, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Extra Innings

I have come here to seek consensus for non-objection for me adding extra innings to the game logs. I initially did this and was reverted for the ARI-COL game on April 3. I added the innings to the score in parenthesis in what I believe is a very unobtrusive fashion without adding a column to the table. To see what it looks like, please see these diffs [1] [2]. Is there any serious objection to this? I realize that the extra innings do not change the score of the game or have any actual bearing on the season standings, but as I mentioned on User talk:Ksy92003 when I was reverted, it doesn't damage the table or negatively impact the readability, so I would really like to do this. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 00:30, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I think it looks fine and is a good idea. ESPN and whatnot always note extra innings next to their scores in pretty much every sport. Don't see why it should be removed.++aviper2k7++ 02:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why are we using articles as templates?

All the 2007 xxx season game log are just being used as templates. These really aren't articles and should be in the Template space.++aviper2k7++ 02:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I'll get right on moving them all to templates. Ksy92003 03:27, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Is there any way I can help in this process? If so tell m what I nee to do and I can help speed the task along. --Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 13:41, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I have already personally moved all of the articles to their respective templates manually, and there shouldn't be anything left to do. Thanks anyway. Ksy92003 20:12, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, that's much better.++aviper2k7++ 21:05, 6 April 2007 (UTC)