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[edit] Category:[YEAR] architecture

You may have noticed the new categories for architecture by year - Category:1st century architecture, Category:1110s architecture, Category:1897 architecture, etc. Please feel free to add them to any architecture articles you work on - using the one or two most important dates for the building or other project in question - the categories are currently underpopulated. Warofdreams talk 00:02, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merging articles related to Prefabricated housing

I would strongly support a merger between Manufactured housing, Mobile home, Modular home, Prefabricated home, Prefabricated housing and possibly Prefabricated buildings. See discussion at Talk:Mobile home#Total confusion and Talk:Manufactured housing.

One option is to put US specific info in Manufactured housing - HUD Code and general info in another article.

I was thinking it would be good to have information on recent developments in prefab housing, such as the Glide house (currently a redirect)... but the priority is to do appropriate merging.

btw, if two articles are very clearly about the same thing, there is no need for discussion; they can be immediately merged. I'm almost bold enough to do that, but it's not my field and I'd appreciate the input of someone who knows the field better than me. --Singkong2005 talk 14:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Related FAC

If anyone is interested in examining a related featured article candidacy, please check out Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Point Park Civic Center. Christopher Parham (talk) 20:17, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help for military history

Hi

Could you help us on the fortress article and its subarticles a bit? We need some suggestions, how we make a presentation of this kind of building and its different types. Thank you Wandalstouring 19:18, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Peer review request

City of Manchester Stadium is currently on peer review. As I developed the article primarily from a sporting standpoint, I'd like to know if there are any gaping holes in the article with regards to architecture. Thanks Oldelpaso 12:20, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] 17 State Street (Manhattan) up for deletion

I think this discussion could use some more input from architecture fans. I'm not familiar with the notability criteria for skyscrapers. Zagalejo 00:36, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Architects Without Borders

There's no article yet for Architects Without Borders[1]. It seems notable, with 11,000 hits, including a few articles, on google:Architects-Without-Borders. I've suggested by email to the organization that if they wish to contribute, they could do it at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Architecture/Architects_Without_Borders_draft, then post a message here, and ask editors to use the material for the article. --Singkong2005 talk 02:23, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Image:Szydlowiec church town hall.jpg

  • This image on Commons may have from my untrained eyes some use to this project as its not in any categories that editors here would normally look I've brought to your attention. Gnangarra 12:19, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Infobox Skyscraper

I just want to post a heads-up saying I merged several of the skyscraper infoboxes into Template:Infobox Skyscraper. You may want to look at the changes, and if necessary, add more fields that could belong in the infobox. Note that all fields are optional, so the infobox probably won't be as long as it appears. -- tariqabjotu 10:40, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:

  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
  • User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
  • User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 20:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now put the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 23:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Colditz Castle

Colditz Castle is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy (Talk) 17:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

thanks sandy I'll have a look. --Mcginnly | Natter 17:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion on glossaries

Discussion over whether glossaries should be removed from wikipedia and moved over to Wiktionary at Wikipedia_talk:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Glossaries. If you have an interest in keeping the Architectural glossary within wikipedia or have it moved to Wiktionary, you might want to participate in the discussion. Luigizanasi 03:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Architectural visualization article prodded for deletion

Hi, I prodded the architectural visualization article for deletion as a dictionary definition. Since it seems like a low traffic article and the original craeator doesn't seem to be editing anymore I wanted to make sure editors with an interest in the subject were aware. If you think it should stay all you need to d is remove the tag, though it would be good to get a little expansion so it'a no longer a definition and it's clearer what a full article on the subject would encompass. Thanks. --Siobhan Hansa 15:13, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] question about vault

I've written Kazdağlı Mosque article. All my sources are Turkish, and there is a term "aynalı tonoz" but i don't know what is it in English. Tonoz is vault. If it helps aynalı means "mirrored". I've found a Turkish definition for the term; manastır tonozunun üst bölümünü yatay bir üzlemde keserek elde edilen tonozdur meaning: "aynalı vault is made cutting monastery vault's upper part in a horizontal plane." Also there is an image on article. Thanks in advance. --Ugur Basak 12:31, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

It's quite hard to tell without seeing some internal photos looking up at the dome and vaults. Do you have any? --Mcginnly | Natter 12:52, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunately i don't have any other photos, i also can't find any photo from intertet. --Ugur Basak 13:10, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
I've founded a few photos on this site Check the ones named "Kazdağlı". --Ugur Basak 13:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm really struggling on this one - I think you need a english speaking turkish archtect - but my best guess, is rather than mirror I believe Aynali can also mean paneled - so a panelled vault. I thought perhaps also a decorated vault - most sources where that word appeared that had pictures seemed to include decorated domes - (can tonoz also mean dome?) - or just a vault with a flat soffit. regards --Mcginnly | Natter 14:25, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
I searched the term and find the meaning, it's cavetto vault. There is no article about caveotte vault and cavetto is redirecting to Molding (decorative). Is molding deal with cavetto vault. Thanks for your interest. --Ugur Basak 09:25, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I'm looking for an Architectural Administrator

to change a fairly new article, Maya Revival Style to Mayan Revival architecture. Actually a look at the list of the different articles about the various styles of architectures seemed to reveal that there is not much consistancy here. So I'll propose that at least all the revival style articles be named [or re-named] Whatever [Gothic, Egyptian, Colonial, Classical, Tudor, etc.] Revival architecture. Let's talk. Carptrash 20:04, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

You don't need an admin to change Maya Revival Style to Mayan Revival Architecture. Just use the move tab. Ask at that talkpage first and talk to User:TravisNygard about it. You can also use WP:RM. Looking now, the others you mentioned already seem to be at the names you mention. Regards, DVD+ R/W 00:53, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I'll try that MOVE button thing. The person who first posted the article is not a registered user or I would have discussed it with him\her. We'll talk photos elsewhere. Carptrash 15:28, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Forms in architecture

Whatever that... Thing is, can somebody have a look to try and clean it what is useable in it?

Am currently cleaning up Category:Architectural elements by transferring elements into subcategories, BTW. Will soon move to Category:Architecture itself. Circeus 19:52, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

To where? - perhaps a little discussion first please? --Mcginnly | Natter 22:46, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Palladian window

Someone who has more knowledge on the subject than I do might want to consider reverting this edit to the article Palladian window, which is now a redirect to Palladian architecture. Note that there is a major section the the Palladian architecture article about the Palladian window. I personally think the Palladian window should have its own article in addition to its section in the larger article, but I don't feel comfortable making that decision. Thanks. --TantalumTelluride 02:28, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

As the article on Palladian windows was so short, and all the relevant information is in the Palladian architecture article, I don't think that there's any need to revert this. If more detail on the windows is forthcoming, the article could be split out again. Warofdreams talk 00:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm inclined to agree with warofdreams here - there didn't seem much scope to expand the article in its own right and it given context and reference by its current location within the palladian architecture article. Quality vs. quantity --Mcginnly | Natter 13:05, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Palladian architecture

Palladian architecture has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" from featured status. The instructions for the FAR process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Sandy (Talk) 01:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Are fictional structures in the scope of this project?

I happened to notice this project's banner on Talk:Death Star. It was added by a bot,[2] so its possible that it was added by mistake. Anyone? EVula // talk // ☯ // 18:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

The bot added the tag because Death star carries a Megastructure category - it should probably be something like Fictional Megastructures. My inclination is to remove the tag and say that fiction structures aren't necessarily architecture, but can be - it rather depends on if they add anything to architectural discourse. Metropolis (1927 film) probably is but Springfields probably isn't - who knows about the Emerald City - i'm sure there will some venturiesque thesis somewhere about it's place in pop consciousness and it's application to architecture. Anyone else? --Mcginnly | Natter 19:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Architecture of the Teutonic Order

I've prodded this article for deletion because it is just a photo gallery and I've had no response from the author. Perhaps someone here will object? --Mcginnly | Natter 19:01, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dab page tags?

I have created several dab pages for buildings (Trump International Hotel and Tower, Trump Plaza, & Marquette Building). I am not sure if I should add {{Architecture}} tags to them, but I did. TonyTheTiger 15:52, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Great - I'd add the {{architecture|class=NA}} (not article) though --Mcginnly | Natter 15:55, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for help (easy)

Hi. I'm looking for some competent help to add a few sentences about German architecture in the article Germany (currently up for Featured Article status). Like I said, it's just supposed to be a few meaningful lines, not a full detailed treatment (as the article is already quite long). This would be very appreciated. Thanks, Pascal.Tesson 04:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I've added something to the article; any other contributors are very welcome to look over and improve on it! Warofdreams talk 23:30, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Did you know"s

I'm not sure if you all keep records of such things, but:

If you want further records of such things, please indicate below where to post them. Thank you. Badbilltucker 21:00, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afriad) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 15:53, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Castles

Might I draw your attention to Wikipedia:WikiProject Castles. Neddyseagoon - talk 13:23, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah thanks - I'll add it as a related project. --Mcginnly | Natter 00:44, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested moves

Articles covered by this WikiProject currently experiencing a move request :-)

Best regards, Evv 01:05, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Taj Mahal - Request for Comment: Inclusion of minority points of view

During efforts to improve this article, a number of editors asserted the need to emphasize a non-academic minority theory. Initially proposed by P.N. Oak, this theory asserts that the Taj Mahal was not originally built by the Mogul Emperor Shah Jahan, but was a much older Hindu temple or palace stolen by the Mughals. It is instructive to note that Oak also claims that the tombs of Humayun, Itmad-Ud-Daulahand Akbar — as well as the Vatican in Rome, the Kaaba in Mecca, Stonehenge and "all historic buildings" in India — were also stolen Hindu temples or palaces.[3]

"The Taj is only a typical illustration of how all historic buildings and townships from Kashmir to Cape Comorin though of Hindu origin have been ascribed to this or that Muslim ruler or courtier."P.N. Oak at www.hindunet.org

We seek comment, prior to an overhaul of the article, to establish "to what extent we are obliged to include minority points of view within this article." 17:10, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

If anyone would like to comment the link is Talk:Taj Mahal#Request for Comment: Inclusion of minority points of view. --Joopercoopers 17
44, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A bunch of AfDs on people in the field of eco-cemeteries

I recently filed AfDs on articles about five people, who all have something to do wiki eco-cemeteries. Maybe people with an interest in architecture would be interested in taking a look?

// habj 19:35, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese roofing

At some point in the not-too-distant future, I'll likely be looking to create articles on elements or types of Japanese roofing, particularly those pertaining to castles, including karahafu, chidorihafu, and irimoya, assuming these things are not already covered somewhere else. (I haven't really looked all that hard yet.) Are there any standards for this sort of thing, or does anyone have any suggestions how to phrase or group these things?

  1. I could simply add sections pertaining to Japan to articles such as hipped roof, gable, etc.
  2. I could create an article called Japanese roofing styles, Japanese roof, Japanese roofing architecture or the like, and try to cover them all. (If anyone has suggestions for a good standard-style name, this might be the best option.)
  3. I could create separate articles for each individual thing, by the Japanese name, e.g. karahafu (Chinese-style gable element), chidorihafu, etc.

Any help would be most appreciated. Thank you. LordAmeth 14:42, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

    1. The manual of style should be your first port of call.
    2. It might be a good idea to first create an article called something like Japanese roofing styles and list them as headings rather than various little stubs. If the headings or the article get to large at a later date then you can fork them into stub articles.
    3. There's a category called Category:Roofs which your articles should be listed in - have a look there for any 'themes'.
    4. I suggest you contact and sign up to the Castles wikiproject - they should be able to help you there (and you them).
regards --Mcginnly | Natter 15:10, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Error?

When you click edit in the section of Participants it goes to edit section 36, when it actually is supposed to go to section 31. --Parker007 06:37, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Parker, I've fixed it for now. The problem was the new article announcements are transcluded into the project page - each section header in the transclusion (January 2007 December 2006 etc) was being read as a section header within the main page. I've just removed all section headers from the new article announcements for now, but perhaps a knowledgeable code bunny can work out a more elegant solution. Regards --Mcginnly | Natter 12:16, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alexander "Greek" Thomson images

Would anyone mind putting in their opinion, either way, on the debate at Talk:Alexander Thomson. We're clearly not getting anywhere. Maccoinnich 15:45, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Architectural missing topics

Could anyone have a look at my page about missing architectural topics? I've tried to find any obvious redirects but I'm still not sure about the rest - Skysmith 12:22, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New template for architectural practice

I've just created a new infobox for architectural practices, as the one for architects is slightly inappropriate in places. It is, however, closely based on the architect box.

See Template:Infobox Architectural Practice. Please refine, and use it if you think it's useful.

I've tried it out at Bennetts Associates. (Article I created, and not many other editors, so I'm probably not going to annoy anyone by testing it there).

Maccoinnich 15:20, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Peer review

A request has been made for Joseph F. Glidden House to undergo a peer review. Please help out at the article's peer review page. Thanks.A mcmurray 10:16, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I didn't see much feedback on the peer review for the Joseph F. Glidden house. I don't know if that means it shines or not, I got little from the regular peer review as well. Anyway, if no one had anything to add I was going to archive the review and submit it for GA. Of course, if you have something to add, by all means . . . A mcmurray 17:22, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New daughter project?

Am interested in a daughter project here involving agricultural buildings and architecture. I have significantly expanded the number of articles in Category:Barns, am looking for collaborators and/or support from WikiProject Architecture. What does everyone think?A mcmurray 13:34, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Go for your life - I'm a bit overcommitted to help I'm afraid though. --Mcginnly | Natter 02:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
  • I'm on the fence with this one. {{Main}} articles from Category:Buildings and structures have been added to the architecture assessments. But once the ball gets rolling with these articles, perhaps Wikipedia:WikiProject Buildings and structures can be created as a daughter of WP:WPARCH - to include all the different building types, including Category:Barns. Someone spent a long time organizing all the building types in Buildings and structures, and there's a active project on Commons to classify building images (See User:TomAlt message above]] - both can be used as a guideline. Is this too ambitious? —Dogears (talk) 02:36, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
It might be. I just thought the coverage was kind of lacking, maybe a section that just has broad goals such as, improve coverage?A mcmurray 17:22, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bots

Rather than bug the people at WP:BOTREQ every time we want the architecture tag adding to a category, It's been suggested I apply for my own bot approval which I've done. It will just add the tags to architecture categories. Does anyone have any objections? --Mcginnly | Natter 01:46, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Go for it! Warofdreams talk 03:56, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gabriele Tagliaventi

I removed a deletion proposal (PROD) from Gabriele Tagliaventi ("a main figure of the movement for the European Urban Renaissance and the New Urbanism in Europe"), but it still seems that it may need some assistance from experienced wikipedians, particularly those involved in this project. The author may or may not be identical to the subject, but I don't know how important that is as long as everything can be cited in accordance with Wikipedia's guidelines. I also added a tag for this project (I hope that was OK). Pharamond 19:47, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Goan Architecture

Hello. If anyone feels like taking on a small stub project, I've just blanked Goan Architecture as a blatant copyright violation. Perhaps someone from the project has the tools to write a proper stub in its place. It would be sad to just let that article get deleted. Pascal.Tesson 21:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New articles

There's an experiment at User:AlexNewArtBot to automatically find new articles which are of interest to a specific WikiProject. I've created a ruleset for Sheffield at User:AlexNewArtBot/architecture, and new articles should appear listed at Portal:Architecture/New article announcements. Please feel free to add new keywords to the ruleset (instructions at User:AlexNewArtBot, or ask me, and give feedback on its accuracy. Warofdreams talk 19:21, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Access to books (John/Jeffry/Jeffrey Wyattville/Wyatville).

I'm trying to figure out if John and Jeffry's the same person. If anyone here has access to the following books:

  • Lloyd, Thomas; Julian Orbach; Robert Scourfield, The buildings of Wales Pembrokeshire, 2004, p. 462.
  • Newman, John; Nikolaus Pevsner, The buildings of England Shropshire, 2nd edition, 2006, p. 326.
  • Richards, Eric, The leviathan of wealth: the sutherland fortune in the industrial revolution, University of Toronto Press, 1973, ISBN 0710074557, p. 15.

and/or something better, please source Jeffry Wyattville. Ta. -- Jeandré, 2007-03-23t08:23z

NO - they were brothers! John was not as well known as his brother Sir Jeffry, but equally architecturally adapt as well as being a better gardiner. Rgds, - Trident13 12:49, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A project related collaboration at NRHP

Check out the new WikiProject National Register of Historic Places Frank Lloyd Wright Collaboration. An effort to expand Wikipedia's coverage of Registered Historic Places designed by this most important architect.

To join the collaboration or help out you can visit the collaboration subpage or the collaboration talk page.

Encouraging cross project participation to be sure. Please consider participating. Thanks. IvoShandor 08:16, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tags

When should the architecture tag be added? I saw some being removed with edit summaries stating "not globally important." Then, at the same time, some articles that would seemingly be "not globally important" (but still in some way about architecture, get the tag added by other users. I am just curious as to when to add it to talk pages, I didn't see anything specific about global importance in the project scope. For instance, should DeKalb County Courthouse (Illinois), a current good article, be tagged or not? Thanks ahead of time. : ) IvoShandor 08:21, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Architecture articles don't have to be globally important to receive a tag - naturally globally important movements, buildings and architects get a higher rating in the 'importance' field - where have you seen tags removed like that? I think the tag you removed here should be reinstated. The only rule really is 'if it's architecture' it gets a tag. There's a very long standing debate however about what is and what isn't architecture - so it's not always cut and dried - certain structures and buildings aren't architecture, but the distinction is probably subjective. For me, architecture is construction expressed as an 'art' - so if it has some aspirations other than just fulfilling the functions required of it, then it's architecture. --Mcginnly | Natter 09:57, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
I gotcha. I removed that tag because some other articles had them removed, they were kind of related, so I guess I just assumed . . . I saw some tags on some of the articles I created somewhere, maybe Sycamore Historic District, which, on second look needs to have many of its articles on its list just combined and set up for WP:SUMMARY should it be necessary, I just haven't gotten around to it. I just wasn't sure what to do, and maybe this should be clarified in the scope because I think I saw it happen more than once, to other pages, just on my watchlist, I think (there's about 2100 pages there, so its hard to sort it all out) and if I ever find the diffs I will show you. Anyway thanks. IvoShandor 10:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
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