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Archives AOWR Talk: Archive 1 (October 2006-November 2006)

Contents 1 F1 specific Indy page 2 Just a note 3 Indy F1 Summary 4 USAC 5 Old race results 6 Need for a WikiProject: Motorsport? 7 Need for WikiProject American Motorsports or WikiProject North American Motorsports? 8 Driver profiles 9 Willard Prentiss is being considered for deletion 10 Wikipedia Day Awards 11 Indy 500 Drivers 12 'Indy' constructors category 13 Archive 14 2004 Champ Car World Series 15 Template:Racing car 16 F1 driver template design 17 Indy 500 annual infobox 18 Indy 500 Winners Template 19 1990 CART World Series Season/Temp 20 Changes in Templates 21 Panoz DP01 Image 22 Disambiguation of IndyCar 23 19xx in motor racing 24 List of champ car circuits 25 IRL race results

[edit] F1 specific Indy page

I've worked up an F-1 specific Indy page. I suggest that the F1 races link to pages like this rather than try to cram the F-1 square peg into the "500" round hole. Take a look here.--Mycroft.Holmes 22:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Nothing wrong with the layout you propose in itself, but I think it would probably be subject to a merge proposal pretty quickly. It's the same race, after all, so having a separate page seems like overkill. I floated the idea above of having an inconspicuous extra column in the Indy race results for F1 points scored. If not that, a small section towards the bottom of the page could give the same information. 4u1e 17:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I'd prefer a separate section to an additional column. Some drivers have careers that span the 40's, 50's and 60's. I'd like to use one format for all Indy drivers and for all Indy races. But, that's just my opinion.--Mycroft.Holmes 17:19, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

My view is that a column would look better - but that's just my opinion, too. It wouldn't really change the format noticeably, as currently written for the 1952 Indianapolis 500, for example, it's the furthest right column anyway.

I'm not as knowledgeable about American racing as I should be. More recent races have counted towards (one of) the major American open wheel championships and have therefore carried points, which perhaps should be recorded in the race results. I imagine that the points schemes have changed from year to year, and that in some years the race did not count towards any championship. If this is true, then the results tables are not going to be completely consistent anyway, and for some years should perhaps include a 'points' column, although in different years it might be an F1, a CART or an IRL column. Just a thought. 4u1e 17:30, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

How about including a points column on ALL Indy 500 pages. You could leave it blank (or use N/A) if it doesn't apply. Make it title of the points column flexible so that the it could work for whatever series applies. Royalbroil ^T : C 01:46, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure that USAC or AAA or the "real" sanctioning body of the "500" awarded points in addition to those awarded by the FIA. Are we gonna add another column for that? The vast majority of "500" results will have N/A in the "F1 points" column. I'll work on a table toady to summarize F1 participation for a driver, summarizing wins, podiums, poles, fast laps and points. We can put that in a separate section AFTER "Indy 500 results". I'll also work up a table to summarize points for each race. We can put that AFTER the official results for the F1 years.--Mycroft.Holmes 13:49, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Are you proposing to make a separate table to the right of the Indy 500 table? Sounds good. As long as you don't add a table below the 500 table. I don't have a strong opinion about how to formulate or format the table, as long as it looks good. The pages should look simular, but don't need to use the exact same format IMHO. Royalbroil ^T : C 14:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Just a note

I started this page, Fastmasters, but it could use a lot more information. It's not really open-wheel related, but racing nonetheless. Doctorindy 22:38, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Indy F1 Summary

Take a look at User:Mycroft.Holmes/Indy_F1_Summary. This is a test page containing a summary of F1 participation at Indy from 1950 to 1960. The table does NOT include shared drives and fast laps (yet). Take a look and comment. I'd like to put this somewhere, but I'm not quite sure where.--Mycroft.Holmes 22:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't see the purpose of the table, so I cannot comment. I ask you some questions to further the discussion. Why should someone care how drivers did at Indy during the F1 years only? What data are you trying to communicate or summarize? Royalbroil ^T : C 04:30, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] USAC

I started a discussion on the USAC page at Talk:United States Automobile Club about how I think that each of the touring series should have its own article. Please join the discussion there. Royalbroil ^T : C 03:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Old race results

I started working on some "old" race results, but few seemed to warrant their own page. I decided it seemed appropriate that old races from AAA/USAC/old CART years that were held in the same city (sometimes loosely interpretated) can merge well with a current race in the same city. For example, I added the following:

• The Tamiami (Miami GP) CART race results to the Homestead-Miami Indy 300 list, both have Miami in common. Also, I added the 1995 Miami race, since it was actually of the same incarnation of the Homestead race.
• The lone Fuji result to the list of Indy Japan 300. They both have Japan as a location in common.
• Detroit 100 winners to the list of Detroit Indy Grand Prix, both have Detroit in common.

I don't think there will be much objection, since there really isn't any other place for most of those other older race results to be, short of creating an unecessary new page. I'm going to look at some others, and do more if it seems worthwhile. Doctorindy 20:52, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

• Also created Pocono 500 (Indycar)...needs work. Doctorindy 20:52, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Need for a WikiProject: Motorsport?

Do we need a WikiProject Motorsport for collaboration on topics that affect all motorsport articles? I came across Wikipedia:WikiProject_Rugby - the purpose of which is to "maintain its children Wikiprojects: Rugby league and Rugby union as well as recognising, organising and improving the common areas between the codes." Now we have a lot more Motorsport WikiProjects covered than two and I sometimes think stuff such as the UK country discussion on the F1 Wikiproject applies across several others. I'm posting this on the F1, WRC, NASCAR, American Open Wheel Racing, A1GP and IROC to get people's opinions. Your comments are welcome! Alexj2002 21:10, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm in. I am a member of three of the WikiProjects (IROC, NASCAR, and American Open Wheel). I am knowledgable and often work on areas of racing that lie outside these specific genres, like midget cars, off-road racing, sprint cars, non-NASCAR stockcars, national series that tour local tracks in the United States, and other national series in the United States. These "missed" areas could be managed/organized by the meta-WikiProject. A meta-WikiProject to encompass all types of racing is needed. Royalbroil ^T : C 02:34, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm in too. I'm already a member of several relevant WikiProjects (F1, A1GP, British Motorsport and MotoGP) and I agree that there is a lot of overlap between all of these and an umbrella project would be helpful in co-ordinating style and approach, especially where drivers are in more than one series in their careers. Justin Wilson is a good current example - he gets infoboxes for both Champ Car and F1 and they don't really sit well on top of each other.--Jsydave 11:03, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Should the proposed WikiProject be restricted to racing with motors, or should in encompass all forms of organized racing? Or should there be two WikiProject created, one to oversee all forms of racing, and one to oversee all motorized racing? Gray areas include: bicycle racing (both road and off-road), horse racing, dog racing, track and field, cross country running, skiing, swimming, other animal racing, other human-powered racing, etc. Royalbroil ^T : C 12:32, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

There have also been issues between this WikiProject and F1 on how to present the 1950 to 1960 Indy 500 results since the race was a combined event. A meta-WikiProject could facilitate how to deal with the inter-WikiProjects' problems. Royalbroil ^T : C 12:36, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Racing with motors - there's little overlap between, horse racing or swimming and F1 for example, whilst there's much overlap between F1 and Champ Car. A WIP is available at WP:MOTOR - please help improve it as you see fit. Alexj2002 11:30, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Need for WikiProject American Motorsports or WikiProject North American Motorsports?

I think there a need for a WikiProject about all motorsports in America that are not covered under other existing WikiProjects: WP:NASCAR, WP:IROC, WP:American Open Wheel Racing, Sports Car Racing, etc. The WikiProject would be similiar to Wikipedia:WikiProject British Motorsport in scope. The introduction would be "WikiProject American/North American aims to create, expand, update and standardize Wikipedia articles related to Motorsport in the United States/North America." Other WikiProject would replace the article marking template with their own as a driver moves up through the ranks.

I propose a WikiProject would encompass all motorsport articles in the United States, and I am asking for input if it should include Canada and Mexico. There is a fair bit of border hopping into Canada by NASCAR (especially with the new NASCAR Canadian Tire Series), and I would like to see the Baja 1000 included in the WikiProject.

It could be either organized as a parent of WikiProject NASCAR/WikiProject IROC, or as an equal. It would not do oversight of the WikiProjects, as that is covered by the new WikiProject Motorsports. Applicable articles would include notable racetracks, drivers, halls of fame, sanctioning bodies, etc. A sample of specific articles would include: ARCA, American Speed Association, IMCA, UMP, World of Outlaws, CORR, SODA (series), USAR Hooters Pro Cup, National Dirt Late Model Hall of Fame, National Midget Auto Racing Hall of Fame, Mike Eddy, Manzanita Speedway, Knoxville Raceway, Lake Geneva Raceway, Crandon International Off-Road Raceway, Berlin Raceway, Bonneville Speedway, Knoxville Nationals, Dirt track racing in the United States just to name a few. I have been spending much of my time recently improving this part of Wikipedia.

What does everyone think? Does anyone else have interests in some of these areas? Royalbroil ^T : C 15:51, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I officially proposed it here. I amended it slightly. Please add your name there if interested. Royalbroil ^T : C 15:19, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Driver profiles

Completed all i/500 driver profiles up to the 1941 race. There should be no broken links from 1911 to 1941.--Mycroft.Holmes 06:36, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Willard Prentiss is being considered for deletion

Add your voice of support to Willard by adding your views here - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Willard Prentiss. Readro 16:42, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 19:27, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Indy 500 Drivers

We were having a discussion on Mycroft.Holmes talk page about the Indy 500 category. I have copied the following text between the lines from there to get concensus from project participants. The discussion is whether to add all winners of the Indy 500 category to the Indy 500 drivers category. This link has the guideline: Wikipedia:Categorization and subcategories .

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Surely since "Indy 500 Winners" is a sub-category of "Indy 500 Drivers" you don't need to add both? -- Ian Dalziel 12:46, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

• Good question. When I looked looked at the Indy 500 drivers category under "U", I found only Robby, Jerry, and Johnny Unser. I expected to see all of the Unsers in that category. Same with Mario, Michael, Marco and the rest of the Andrettis.--Mycroft.Holmes 15:50, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Blowed if I can get it to work - I thought it should automatically include members of the subcategory. In which case Danny Sullivan would appear in "Indy 500 Drivers" - but he doesn't! I'll keep fiddling with it. -- Ian Dalziel 16:56, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

I was just hear to tell you the same thing. You need to stop adding polesitters, winners, etc. to the driver's category. All of Wikipedia is set up that if something is in a child category, it is automatically included in the parent category (and grandparent, etc.). I am positive. Do you want me to find and quote the policy or guideline? Royalbroil ^T : C 19:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Here's the guideline: Wikipedia:Categorization and subcategories. Since it is a guideline, it should be broken only occasionally and with strong justification. If you think you have an exception, you should probably discuss it at Wikipedia:WikiProject American Open Wheel Racing. Cheers! Royalbroil ^T : C 19:13, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

That guideline seems to say that both categories should be applied.

The example given is "Often an article could belong in more than one subcategory of a major category, but not all of these subcategories will necessarily exist. For example, actor Marlon Brando is in Category:Best Actor Academy Award winners and its parent Category:Film actors." -- Ian Dalziel 21:45, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Both Ian and I have tried subcategories. Specifically, take a look at Danny Sullivan. He's listed only as an Indy 500 winner. The winner category is a subcat of Indy 500 drivers. However, Sullivan is not listed as an Indy 500 driver. I would expect to see Sullivan displayed in both categories. --Mycroft.Holmes 19:46, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

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I have no problem with the exception, as a Category:Indy 500 drivers should include the winners. I don't normally see thing done this way in Wikipedia, but I think this is a reasonable exception. We should change the description on the category page to say that it includes winners too. Should we nominate the winners category for deletion as unneeded? My thought is no, but I thought this should be discussed. I have a bot (see WP:AWB), so please don't waste your time doing each one by hand. Royalbroil ^T : C 00:31, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

I think you've gotta a category for winners and pole-sitters. --Mycroft.Holmes 01:11, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 'Indy' constructors category

As part of a discussion on the Formula One constructors category over at WP:F1, the question arose of whether there should be a category for 'Indy' constructors. Since 'Indy' would plainly be the wrong thing to call them, the best I've come up with so far was 'Constructors for American Open Wheel Racing series'. The slightly cumbersome construction is to avoid the implication that the constructors themselves are necessarily American. A decision on this is probably best taken by this project, however, so over to you! This would probably also help with the Indy constructors currently listed as F1 constructors (analogous to the situation with Indy drivers 1950 - 1960). There's a discussion on this topic here. Cheers. 4u1e 12:30, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archive

Archived the first portion of the Talk page, the above link shows it. The size was well over 55k. Although it says that it should not be changed, I think a few small comments can still apply to those topics within reason. Doctorindy 22:00, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

And they can always be restored by anyone later if needed. Royalbroil ^T : C 01:37, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2004 Champ Car World Series

I have just created this page here. The results table needs formatting in line with our standard and some other info needs adding. If anyone would like to help please feel free.--Jsydave 01:43, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

I've added the table with the list of teams and drivers, but I've only added the drivers who were in the first race of the season. Someone still needs to check for driver changes during the season and add them to the table. Gasheadsteve 20:43, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I've already done this work, but have not yet been able to add to the page --Jsydave 10:10, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Racing car

There exists a template for racing car types: {{Racing car}} . Royalbroil ^T : C 15:27, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] F1 driver template design

Very effective, and is used already for several CART/CCWS driver-performance stats I've seen. The color-coding of the positions makes sense, and is much better, in my mind, then simply giving a bold-lettering only for pole position or victory; using it also makes it simpler for international fans to quickly grasp the situations as the seasons for drivers unfolded. Does anyone else concur? --Chr.K. 04:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

And while I'm at it, this kind of color-coding for the 500 performances, only with slight changes, possibly in both templates, in making the bluish "also ran" color for all cars outside of the top ten, not the top eight. --Chr.K. 04:52, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Is this the template that you are talking about: {{F1 driver}} ? Royalbroil ^T : C 05:00, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

No, the complete F1 results, and the color coding for given positions, as shown in, for example, Clark's, "Complete Formula One results." --Chr.K. 03:34, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

It looks good to me, and it would be good to be consistent with a standard in a simular genre of racing. Royalbroil ^T : C 16:38, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I've started on a few, mainly Vasser and Junqueira. Like with all things I do it will take time to make everything up to date. Manwithaduck 05:34, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Here's the thing: I want to apply it to all forms of grade-1 American open-wheel, IndyCar/IRL as well as CCWS/CART, starting with the modern drivers and then backtracking to the days of USAC and AAA. For the color scheme, I say fourth through tenth should be green, for a top ten finish; blue should be the remainder of the running cars, and purple should be, per the F1 project standard, for cars gone out; if an Out car finishes in the top ten, though, it should be marked with the number as well as a "Ret", and be purple all the same. Any problems with this? --Chr.K. 09:55, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Indy 500 annual infobox

I'm going to take a stab at creating an annual infobox for each Indy 500, much like the info box shown here Super Bowl XLI. Should be up soon Doctorindy 14:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

We need to go backtrack with them, I think. Working out such details for 1919 is going to be a lot more difficult than 2005 or '06. --Chr.K. 10:07, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Indy 500 Winners Template

I created this, now it should be added to each winner's page...

Indianapolis 500 Winners

Four-time winners A. J. Foyt • Al Unser, Sr. • Rick Mears Three-time winners Meyer • Shaw • Rose • Rutherford • B. Unser Two-time winners Milton • Vukovich • Ward • Johncock • Fittipaldi • Luyendyk • Unser, Jr. • Castroneves One win Harroun • Dawson • Goux • Thomas • DePalma • Resta • Wilcox • Chevrolet • Murphy • Corum • Boyer • DePaolo • Lockhart • Souders • Keech • Arnold • Schneider • Frame • Cummings • Petillo • Roberts • Davis • Robson • Holland • Parsons • Wallard • Ruttman • Sweikert • Flaherty • Hanks • Bryan • Rathmann • Jones • Clark • Hill • Andretti • Donohue • Sneva • Sullivan • Rahal • Villeneuve • Lazier • Cheever • Brack • Montoya • de Ferran • Rice • Wheldon • Hornish

Doctorindy 18:23, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

• Great job! Royalbroil ^T : C 18:57, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 1990 CART World Series Season/Temp

Is there any particular reason why the details of the 1990 CART World Series Season are documented in 1990 CART World Series Season/Temp, with 1990 CART World Series Season being a redirect to that article, rather than actually having the information in 1990 CART World Series Season ? DH85868993 00:34, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Simply because it isn't finished. I've had some people in the past msg and abuse me for having an unfinished article on a standard page. Any article of mine that is redirected to a temp page is still under contstruction. Manwithaduck 05:30, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I see. FYI, WP:SP suggests that draft versions of pages should be created in the Talk namespace, not the main article namespace. DH85868993 06:19, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I remember seeing and using a template that marks that the article is in the process of being written. It is green. I can't remember the name. That works to keep people off your back. Another alternative is to put a nearly blank article in the right place, and mark it as cleanup. You can add a note explaining your progress that doesn't display using a comment like this: . Another alternative is to start it in your sandbox, but then you risk someone else writing it while you are developing it. Royalbroil ^T : C 13:15, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changes in Templates

Hi, I'm currently making some changes over on the WikiProject Motorsport Assessment Page. Look in the statistics section. Only 240 articles have the template WikiProject Motorsport on it. I'm thererfore going to propose something (I think this has been discussed a while back). Can every single Motorsport article have the template on it's talk page. My reasoning for this is that some drivers have only the Formula One template on the article. However, surely (by the way, this goes for virtually all articles), they haven't got to Formula One someway. They haven't just been thrown into F1, I don't think any drivers done that. They've gone through other forms of Motorsport. Therefore, surely the Wikipedia Motorsport template is needed for every single Motorsport article?. I'm going to do a vote on this (on this page, plus the Motorsport project and all the child projects) so we can get a decision on this. By the way, don't bother voting on different projects, as only one of your votes will count! Davnel03 16:53, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

• Agree

• Disagree

• Leave Comments Here

New discusssion on Motorsport talk page. Davnel03 17:58, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Panoz DP01 Image

I've added an image of the new Champ Car chassis, but I'm having some troubble figuring out the licencing for this. Now as a guide I've been using the WDC trophy image on the F1 article, but for a licencing, I selected "Found this somewhere". Since this is the best image I could find, I'd hate to run into copyright problems. How do I proceed from here?Mustang6172 01:02, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Since you copied it from someone's website, they would some how have to release it under GDFL or Creative Commons license, which is next to impossible. What you did will never stand up here in Wikipedia. You can find the policy here: Wikipedia:Image use policy. I suggest you paste the tag {{db-author}} to the image. That enables you as the author to have the image speedy deleted. It will save the discussion and wait times. I've seen it happen dozens of times. Sorry. Royalbroil ^T : C 03:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Aren't copyright images acceptable when public domain images are not available? I've credited the photographer, the website, and the copyright holder. I've added the {{fairusein2}} tag, and provided fair use rationale. Doesn't this meet the fair use criteria?Mustang6172 21:55, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I haven't seen a fair use rationale image that doesn't get quickly deleted for probably a year. Here is the policy: Wikipedia:Fair use. One way is to prove that it is impossible to reproduce (like in an unreproducable event such as the late Alan Kulwicki's Polish Victory lap). This is not the case in an image of an IndyCar that someone else could take a picture of if they went to a race. I stay FAR away from fair use rationale. It's a slippery slope. Good luck! Royalbroil ^T : C 03:58, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation of IndyCar

User:PaddyM has recently completed the sizeable task of disambiguating most (all?) of the links to IndyCar. In most instances, the links were disambiguated to point to Indy Racing League or Champ Car, which seems perfectly reasonable. Some of the links to IndyCar, however, were disambiguated to point to Open wheel car. IMHO, this actually adds ambiguity - to me, the term "Indycar" implies top-level, American open-wheel racecars, whereas "Open wheel car" could mean anything from karts to Formula One, anywhere in the world. What do others think? DH85868993 02:07, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with what you said about open wheel being a quite ambiguous term. Would you list specific examples? Royalbroil ^T : C 03:48, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll construct a list within the next 12 hours. DH85868993 06:17, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I haven't had time to do a complete list, as I had hoped/planned, but here are a few examples of "IndyCar" linked to Open wheel car: Chris Amon, Bill Cantrell, Team Lotus, Swede Savage. DH85868993 00:04, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

There were about 200 links pointing to IndyCar, and while I am an amateur when it comes to racing, I feel as though I have learned a little bit while going through the various articles. That being true, I can only think of a few instances where I linked to Open wheel car as it seemed to be the appropriate place. In any case, I wholly support the members of this project keeping the link-list clean for future reference and will not be in the slightest offended if you find some of my disambiguations to be a mistake and want to correct them.

As an aside, there is an extreme problem of over-linking in almost every one of the articles I reviewed for the disambiguation. "IndyCar", "Champ Car", "IRL", etc., are linked excessively in each article and as an outsider looking in, I can tell you that it makes things more difficult . . . so, just something this project should keep in mind when editing their articles. Cheers, PaddyM 04:16, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with DH that these are all examples of incorrect disambiguous linking. I doubt that there are any links from IndyCar that should be made to Open wheel racing, as open wheel also includes Formula One, midgets, sprint cars, etc. I can see why PaddyM used a few of the links since he/she is an outsider. I think that the disambiguous should probably be done by this WikiProject or someone with a strong knowledge in racing in the future. Royalbroil ^T : C 04:43, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Here's a complete list of all articles where "IndyCar" is linked to Open wheel car (not necessarily all created by PaddyM). Feel free to delete or strikeout articles as they are addressed. DH85868993 03:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I have completed the list. I asked DH85868993 to review my changes. Thanks for compiling the list! Royalbroil ^T : C 15:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 19xx in motor racing

I've recently created Category:1950 in motor racing - Category:1968 in motor racing. So, feel free to add any relevant articles or subcategories into these new categories. -- DH85868993 12:22, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of champ car circuits

Just to let everyone know, I have completed a list page of champ car circuits used since 1979 based the Formula one track list. We are currently lacking circuit maps/diagrams for 75% of the tracks if anyone can help out. Any other improvements are welcome as well. -- Manwithaduck 23:40, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] IRL race results

We're going to need access to all IRL event statistics, both for the individual events and for reference to driver career templates; IRL should have one just as much as CART. Anyone have any websites where such info is stored? --Chr.K. 12:22, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, the IndyCar page seems to be adequate for the task. --Chr.K. 12:39, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Completed the first one, for Hornish. Since every position gives points, unlike F1, I've decided to go with green standing top ten finishers outside the gold/silver/bronze first three; as for when to use blue or purple, blue is still running, but outside top ten, and purple/retired is for anyone who falls out, whether or not they finish ahead of a running car. Hope the system works. --Chr.K. 17:07, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

racing-database.com has IRL results too. Also, the yearly pages for IRL are named, for example 2007 in IRL, not 2007 Indycar Series season as you currently have it. Manwithaduck 03:12, 10 April 2007 (UTC)