Wikipedia talk:WikiProject American Animation

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Hello! We at the Work via WikiProjects team for Wikipedia 1.0 would like you to identify the "key articles" from your project that should be included in a small CD release due to their importance, regardless of quality. We will use that information to assess which articles should be nominated for Version 0.5 and later versions. Hopefully it will help you identify which articles are the most important for the project to work on. As well, please add to your Arts WikiProject article table any articles of quality articles|high quality]]. If you are interested in developing a worklist such as this one for your WikiProject, or having a bot generate a worklist automatically for you, please contact us. Please feel free to post your suggestions right here. Thanks! Walkerma 05:41, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Glad to see this WikiProject is active again! We are still interested in hearing your choices of key articles. Thanks, Walkerma 05:52, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Marvel Superheroes

The entries Marvel Super Heroes (TV series) and The Marvel Superheroes Show need to be merged. --Jamdav86 10:38, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Revival

Expect to see this WikiProject re-launch by around November. --Slgr@ndson (page - messages - contribs) 05:14, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I just wanted to pipe in and say that I'm glad to see the project revived. I unfortunately will not be able to contribute any new content for a while, but I will gladly participate in any decision-making that goes on here and will continue to monitor a number of animation-related pages to guard against vandalism and fancruft. (Problem is that all of my animation books are in the States at the moment). So, kudos to SIgrandson. — BrianSmithson 22:24, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Felix the Cat FA

As an early project, I think it might be a good idea to turn our attention to Felix the Cat the article was identified as a Featured Article a while back (2003 I think), and standards have since changed. I still think it's a really good article, but it's bound to be placed on Wikipedia:Featured article review one of these days, and in its current state, it would lose its FA status. The biggest area in which it is in violation is that it only has one or two inline citations. Anyone who has any of the standard animation histories (Beck, Barrier, Maltin, Solomon) or the Canemaker book specifically about Felix is encouraged to take at look at the article and to add inline cites wherever a potentially surprising, controversial, or contestible statement is made. Let's head off any FA loss at the pass if we can . . . . — BrianSmithson 22:21, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] American?

If this is the American animation wikiproject, why does the member tag say that "this user is a member of Wikiproject Animation"? Such a project does not exist. I wish it did, but it doesn't... in the meanwhile, someone should change the member tag so that it's accurate.

I do wish that there was a place to co-ordinate effort on articles about the vast amount of animation that's neither anime nor American, but I don't have the time or know-how to start a wikiproject... my time is better spent working on articles and lists, I think. Esn 05:49, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Participants list

I added a "supporter" (lack of better description) section for Wikipedian, like me, who makes edits to animation pages, but not sure if he or she wants to completely join the project yet. By making easier to join the group (instead of either being only "active" or "inactive"), the wikiproject can build a larger member base. Feel free to change the section name if there is a better description. ^_^ Jumping cheese Contact 06:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Directory

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and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 21:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now put the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 23:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Ren & Stimpy Show

Please review the recent edits to the page above. I can't be sure, because I know virtually nothing about the show, but I think that the recent IP edits probably qualify as vandalism. However, knowing the show's reputation and little else about it, I can't really be sure. Thank you. Badbilltucker 19:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stablepedia

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See Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team#Stablepedia. If you wish to comment, please comment there. ★MESSEDROCKER★ 23:29, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] WikiProject Futurama

I added WikiProject Futurama to the list of similar wikiprojects. We recently got Futurama up to GA status (finally) and are always looking for more things to do in our project. Let me know if there is anything we can do to support this wikiproject within the Futurama articles. Stardust8212 20:08, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Added Aqua Teen Hunger Force

I added a tag to the show Aqua Teen Hunger Force . - Illuminator of the Truth 17:04, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What is the consensus on

I'm having a bit of trouble on another page regarding listing character traits for a fictional character. Could I have a heads up of what the consensus is from everybody else (I'm leaving the name out, to avoid bias based on people's opinions of the franchise).

We've got a fictional character from a long running teen drama/comedy series. The character is consistently honest and morally upright throughout the series (doesn't lie, doesn't cut class etc). However, there are two episodes where this is not true.

In one episode they want to go to a party, and they lie to get out of another engagement. They then have to lie to cover up that lie, and so on. In the other episode, they become embroiled in a school election and sneak in to school during the night to paste over an opponents posters with their own.

I consider both of the above to be staple-cliches of Teen comedy/drama genre (one or the other has happened in everything from Sabrina the teenage witch to saved by the Bell), think there should be some level of separation between these things and the character main personality traits (not a separate header or anything, just a wording indicating that they don't form part of the core persona), and think that it should be notes that they only happened once in a long running series.

Another user wants to use these two events as evidence of deeper flaws in the character's "nice guy" image, they also consider it irrelevant that each even happened only once, and irrelevant followed a cliche "moral message" formula.

What does everybody else think? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Perfectblue97 (talk • contribs).

Hay PB! This page was on my watch page. I can't comment...conflict of interests. Jumping cheese Cont@ct 11:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
  • It's hard to say without seeing the text, but this statement: "evidence of deeper flaws in the character's "nice guy" image" sounds like someone is doing some original research which is not allowed in wikipedia. You should both take a step back from your personal feelings about the character/series and look at whether the text reflects "What happened in the show" or "What I think about what happened in the show". If the article has a significant amount of "so and so did this which indicates this" but you didn't retrieve that from a reliable source then there is a problem. Just remember to keep a neutral point of view and pull all "evidence" from a verifiable source. Hope that helps, feel free to drop the name of the article and I'll take a look at it myself. Stardust8212 14:01, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
It's exactly as you said WP:OR WP:OR WP:OR. What's particularly bad is that I'm having problems with a small core who are taking brief references or scenes and then either blowing them up or extrapolating on them based on what they think might happen in the real world, not based on what was actually written in the script.
A character might do something that is out of character, and somebody then comes along and trying to make it sound as if they are a significant underlying issue of the character's persona For example, X is pressured into stealing a road sign as a gift for Y. It is a one off incident that is scripted as a cautionary moral tale for the audience, but and the next day somebody has edited the page to say that "this shows that the character is only putting up a front of respectability, and is really a thief who is hiding their true nature", or that "Charater X is a know thief and vandal". They cite the episode as WP:V, and then get angry when I try to explain why they can't say what they said under W:OR.

perfectblue 15:39, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Perfectblue and Stardust8212 are on the money here. Wikipedia editors have no place making lists of character traits, extrapolating deeper flaws, or analyzing fiction; that's all original research. Instead, we should be finding third-party, reliable sources that provide such analysis and deferring to them. — Brian (talk) 22:33, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
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